NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game

[QUOTE][url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4155285[/url]

The NBA says officials were wrong when they didn't call an intentional foul on the Dallas Mavericks just before Denver's Carmelo Anthony made a game-winning 3-pointer.

"At the end of the Dallas-Denver game this evening, the officials missed an intentional foul committed by Antoine Wright on Carmelo Anthony, just prior to Anthony's three-point basket," Joel Litvin, NBA president of league and basketball operations, said in a statement issued by the league about two hours after the game.[/QUOTE]

That should make Mark Cuban happy. Everything is ok now..... :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=bagelred]That should make Mark Cuban happy. Everything is ok now.....[/QUOTE]

Not really, they still lost

[QUOTE=BALLin01]Not really, they still lost[/QUOTE]

BALLin01 meet Sarcasm. Sarcasm meet BALLin01.

3-0 :applause:

[QUOTE=bagelred]That should make Mark Cuban happy. Everything is ok now.....[/QUOTE]



The NBA is garbage.. I am glad I am a fan of the Clips and not of some team that thinks they have a chance to make it to the finals because that stuff has been predetermined by the OFFICES.. Remember this is a business.. I am sure the lakers and the overRATED Cavs will make the finals...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because Dallas winning this game would have been the tide turner eh? Dallas had no chance from day one dude.

It has nothing to do with the league being rigged.

[QUOTE=bagelred]BALLin01 meet Sarcasm. Sarcasm meet BALLin01.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I don't understand sarcasm over the internet.

Game Over /thread

iono to me what i saw was wright pulling both hands back as if to gesture he did not commit a foul... if he was REALLY committing an intentional foul, you do not pull both hands back, if he was really trying to commit an intentional foul, he would not pull his hands back til the whistle is called... i dont know, looks too obvious to even be argued but then againt does it even really matter?? Nuggets are 3-0 regardless..

[QUOTE=Jordandunk23]iono to me what i saw was wright pulling both hands back as if to gesture he did not commit a foul... if he was REALLY committing an intentional foul, you do not pull both hands back, if he was really trying to commit an intentional foul, he would not pull his hands back til the whistle is called... i dont know, looks too obvious to even be argued but then againt does it even really matter?? Nuggets are 3-0 regardless..[/QUOTE]
WHEN YOU COMMIT A FOUL ON PURPOSE MOST PLAYERS RAISE THEIR HANDS AS TO SAY "I DID IT!!!"

Why can't people see that???

It is clear as day that he was trying to foul...the damn NBA is even admitting it...

This should be enough for NBA fans to admitt the call was blown...

Well at least they admitted what was already obvious to everyone. Doesn't help the Mavs of course, but lets be real, they were going to lose this series regardless.

[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]3-0 :applause:[/QUOTE]

you better enjoy all this now because you have not a chance in hell vs. the Lakers.

[QUOTE=~primetime~]WHEN YOU COMMIT A FOUL ON PURPOSE MOST PLAYERS RAISE THEIR HANDS AS TO SAY "I DID IT!!!"

Why can't people see that???

It is clear as day that he was trying to foul...the damn NBA is even admitting it...

This should be enough for NBA fans to admitt the call was blown...[/QUOTE]

if u watch the clip again his gesture was quite clearly to signal no foul cos melo immediately shot a three. he didn't wanna give an AND1

i always thought you raise ONE hand to signal an intentional foul

in any case, wouldn't wrapping his arms around melo be a more obvious intentional foul. i thought that was just dumba$$ on his part

and they lost

To all of you who don't understand why we Nuggets fans believe that it wasn't a foul please click and read the following link:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3001461#post3001461[/url]

[QUOTE=nashisbest]if u watch the clip again his gesture was quite clearly to signal no foul cos melo immediately shot a three. he didn't wanna give an AND1

i always thought you raise ONE hand to signal an intentional foul

[B]in any case, wouldn't wrapping his arms around melo be a more obvious intentional foul.[/B] i thought that was just dumba$$ on his part

and they lost[/QUOTE]

Obviously. It was an idiotic mistake to not do so, and he relied on the refs making the call instead of making the intentional foul 100% clear and wrapping him up. He banked on the refs making a call that it seemed he ran away from initially, and was left out to dry. Idiotic, unfourtantate play, but he has no one to blame but himself.


Oh, and you don't stop playing defense until you hear the whistle. The fact he stopped and watched Melo didn't help.

Fouling in that situation should be illegal and the NBA shouldn't of admitted that. It wasn't that blatant of a foul.

[QUOTE=nashisbest]if u watch the clip again his gesture was quite clearly to signal no foul cos melo immediately shot a three. he didn't wanna give an AND1

i always thought you raise ONE hand to signal an intentional foul

in any case, wouldn't wrapping his arms around melo be a more obvious intentional foul. i thought that was just dumba$$ on his part

and they lost[/QUOTE]

Yep, exactly what you said. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Mile High Crew]To all of you who don't understand why we Nuggets fans believe that it wasn't a foul please click and read the following link:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3001461#post3001461[/url][/QUOTE]

"Mark Wunderlich, one of the three officials for that game last year, was part of the crew for the Denver-Dallas game Saturday night and was the one closest to Wright and Anthony.

I'm almost as disappointed for Mark as I am for us. ... It's a call he makes 100 percent of the time," Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle said after Saturday's game.

Added Wright: "I was positive a whistle was coming, just like everybody else was positive the whistle was coming. I made a play on the ball like I was told in the huddle, and the call wasn't made. ... I'm upset like everyone else in this locker room, and I feel like we have a right to be upset."

Sucks for the Mavs, and most of us knew it was a BS no call.

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]Obviously. It was an idiotic mistake to not do so, and he relied on the refs making the call instead of making the intentional foul 100% clear and wrapping him up. He banked on the refs making a call that it seemed he ran away from initially, and was left out to dry. Idiotic, unfourtantate play, but he has no one to blame but himself.


Oh, and you don't stop playing defense until you hear the whistle. The fact he stopped and watched Melo didn't help.[/QUOTE]

He stopped playing defense, putting his hands in air to avoid a shooting foul from being called. His intentional foul was on the ground. Why would he continue playing defense only to risk fouling Melo? Then you are sitting here telling me how A.Wrght is dumb for fouling a guy shooting a 3pt shot.

He should have wrapped him up instead of relying on the refs to call the foul. That would have ended everything.

NBA admitting it was a foul is like George Bush admitting there were no WMDs.

"Woops.....our bad.....oh well.....we'll get it right next time......maybe........"

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because Dallas winning this game would have been the tide turner eh? Dallas had no chance from day one dude.

It has nothing to do with the league being rigged.[/QUOTE]

I hate it when people think this. Anyone remember a certain 8 seed knocking off the Mavericks a few years ago? Nobody thought the Warriors would knock the top seeded Mav's out, yet they did. This is why you play the games.

[QUOTE=LbloodOjunkieG]I hate it when people think this. Anyone remember a certain 8 seed knocking off the Mavericks a few years ago? Nobody thought the Warriors would knock the top seeded Mav's out, yet they did. This is why you play the games.[/QUOTE]
And they played the game. The Mavs lost.

[QUOTE=~primetime~]WHEN YOU COMMIT A FOUL ON PURPOSE MOST PLAYERS RAISE THEIR HANDS AS TO SAY "I DID IT!!!"

Why can't people see that???

It is clear as day that he was trying to foul...the damn NBA is even admitting it...

This should be enough for NBA fans to admitt the call was blown...[/QUOTE]

no sir, you raise one hand, to gesture you committed the foul and you do it AFTER the whistle... you don't pull your hand back IMMEDIATELY after committing it because in that situation during an intentional foul, you want to make sure it gets called... his body language is SO OBVIOUS, that he did not want to get called for the fould, he backed away and put two hands up... you are so biased and you are looking through homer glasses that you are convincing yourself otherwise... there is a reason everybody else is saying it was not an intentional foul... because it wasn't....

AGAIN, either way it doesn't matter because it's 3-0

Can't we all just agree that Antoine Wright is a dumbass so we can all get along?

[QUOTE=LbloodOjunkieG]I hate it when people think this. Anyone remember a certain 8 seed knocking off the Mavericks a few years ago? Nobody thought the Warriors would knock the top seeded Mav's out, yet they did. This is why you play the games.[/QUOTE]


Theyre playing, and from the onset, its been pretty one sided with the exception of a few things here and there. One team is clearly better, and some wont accept that, so they cry "rigged"


Because you know, a Denver/LA finals is like the most media hyped event of the decade.

[QUOTE=Jordandunk23]no sir, you raise one hand, to gesture you committed the foul and you do it AFTER the whistle... you don't pull your hand back IMMEDIATELY after committing it because in that situation during an intentional foul, you want to make sure it gets called... his body language is SO OBVIOUS, that he did not want to get called for the fould, he backed away and put two hands up... you are so biased and you are looking through homer glasses that you are convincing yourself otherwise... there is a reason everybody else is saying it was not an intentional foul... because it wasn't....

AGAIN, either way it doesn't matter because it's 3-0[/QUOTE]
look dude...the NBA came forward and admitted they made a mistake...

EVEN THEY ARE SAYING I AM RIGHT!!!

and it isn't 3-0

it is 3-0*

[QUOTE=Mile High Crew]To all of you who don't understand why we Nuggets fans believe that it wasn't a foul please click and read the following link:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3001461#post3001461[/url][/QUOTE]

It shouldn't matter what the player did... they should have called it a foul.

[QUOTE=GOBB]He stopped playing defense, putting his hands in air to avoid a shooting foul from being called. [B]His intentional foul was on the ground. Why would he continue playing defense only to risk fouling Melo? Then you are sitting here telling me how A.Wrght is dumb for fouling a guy shooting a 3pt shot.[/B]
He should have wrapped him up instead of relying on the refs to call the foul. That would have ended everything.[/QUOTE]


[B]The whistle never blew[/B]. How is he[I] risking [/I]fouling Anthony, when the whistle has yet to blow, and he is [I]trying [/I]to give a foul? You typed all of that just to say in the last sentence what I and almost everyone who isn't a Mavs fan said; that he should have wrapped him up to avoid all of this.

[QUOTE=~primetime~]look dude...the NBA came forward and admitted they made a mistake...

EVEN THEY ARE SAYING I AM RIGHT!!!

and it isn't 3-0

it is 3-0*[/QUOTE]
No, it's 3-0.

[QUOTE=bagelred]NBA admitting it was a foul is like George Bush admitting there were no WMDs.

"Woops.....our bad.....oh well.....we'll get it right next time......maybe........"[/QUOTE]
True, the NBA doesn't know if that was a foul and Bush doesn't know if there are still WMDs in Iraq. Funny.

Lebron On Espn News....now!

[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]No, it's 3-0.[/QUOTE]
nope...

it is 3-0*

forever...

[QUOTE=~primetime~]nope...

it is 3-0*

forever...[/QUOTE]


Right, because youre going to sit there with a straight face, and act like Dallas was going to make a valiant come back in this series? Or what?

Dirk Nowitzki is averaging 30/10 on like 50% shooting and the Mavs are down 3-0. One foul call isnt the difference, it is the talent of the roster, the mojo Denver has right now, & Denver executing their coach's system much better than Dallas that is the difference.

Stop blaming the foul. I am glad Dallas lost, hopefully now they will reload in the offseason like they did in 2004 and give it one last 3-5 season run around Dirk.

Dallas just doesnt have enough talent around Dirk.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Theyre playing, and from the onset, its been pretty one sided with the exception of a few things here and there. One team is clearly better, and some wont accept that, so they cry "rigged"


Because you know, a Denver/LA finals is like the most media hyped event of the decade.[/QUOTE]

I'm certainly not crying that the game is rigged. Again, your missing the point that although Denver is clearly the better team, it's not like upsets don't happen. I want the Nuggets to take the series, but I certainly think that a foul should have been called, no question.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Right, because youre going to sit there with a straight face, and act like Dallas was going to make a valiant come back in this series? Or what?[/QUOTE]
I am going to sit here with a straight face and act like we should have won today...

by your logic we should just skip the entire damn playoffs and just go straight to Lakers/Cavs

What the Mavs would have gone on to do in the future is pointless to even bring up...

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct][B]The whistle never blew[/B]. How is he[I] risking [/I]fouling Anthony, when the whistle has yet to blow, and he is [I]trying [/I]to give a foul? You typed all of that just to say in the last sentence what I and almost everyone who isn't a Mavs fan said; that he should have wrapped him up to avoid all of this.[/QUOTE]

I typed all that because you and others keep mentioning him putting his hands up, backing off. I'm showing you [B]WHY[/B] he did that. As a defender with 1 foul to give you just assume the ref will know the situation at hand and give you the call. Thats his fault for assuming wrong. Try reading sometime.

Whistle never blew because he expected it too. The play happened so quick. He bumped, reached in to Melo and expected a foul call. By that time Melo is gathering the ball to shoot the 3. He wants to avoid a shooting foul which offensive players try to sell the refs. Really simple.

We both agree he should have just wrapped him up once Melo regained controlled of the ball. And we arent here arguing this. But the rest of my post touched on what you spoke on so dont act like a wise ass kid.

Blame goes to the ref. And blame goes to A.Wright. The end.

Everyone moves on.

[QUOTE=~primetime~]WHEN YOU COMMIT A FOUL ON PURPOSE MOST PLAYERS RAISE THEIR HANDS AS TO SAY "I DID IT!!!"

Why can't people see that???

It is clear as day that he was trying to foul...the damn NBA is even admitting it...

This should be enough for NBA fans to admitt the call was blown...[/QUOTE]


Hey...you have to admit it.....that was weak inter foul, it doesnt look like a foul to me...Blame on Wright. Dallas made a bad move to put Wright on Melo. His body language made it seem so obviously, it didnt foul. he puts his arms up.

[QUOTE=04mzwach]Lebron On Espn News....now![/QUOTE]


run to your T.V. before it's to late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=~primetime~]

by your logic we should just skip the entire damn playoffs and just go straight to Lakers/Cavs
[/QUOTE]

Of course!! I mean, why bother playing the game if upset's aren't possible? Why even have a playoff system when we can just have the top team from both conferences play each other?!?