My Vertical

Im a bit above 5 foot 8 and if the highest i can reach when i jump is the backboard alittle bit above the padding. Is this good?

[QUOTE=Underballer]Im a bit above 5 foot 8 and if the highest i can reach when i jump is the backboard alittle bit above the padding. Is this good?[/QUOTE]

depends how old you are really. Your looking at anywhere from a 25-30 inch vertical.

Not really. If you want to improve though just ask, or look through this section... tons of good information.

im in gr.10

[IMG]http://d3f8w3yx9w99q2.cloudfront.net/931/official-glass-basketball-backboard/official-glass-basketball-backboard_0_400x360.jpg[/IMG]
I can just touch above the grey part on the bottom of the backboard

[QUOTE=Underballer][IMG]http://d3f8w3yx9w99q2.cloudfront.net/931/official-glass-basketball-backboard/official-glass-basketball-backboard_0_400x360.jpg[/IMG]
I can just touch above the grey part on the bottom of the backboard[/QUOTE]

Almost the same with me, except I can reach just a bit higher and I have an inch on you. Your vert is probably around 23-24 inches right now. I read somewhere that the average for guys my age (15) is actually 17, but these are for regular guys. Not necessarily athletes. However, if you're around 13 or 14 years old, then that's pretty good.

[QUOTE=NotYetGreat]Almost the same with me, except I can reach just a bit higher and I have an inch on you. Your vert is probably around 23-24 inches right now. I read somewhere that the average for guys my age (15) is actually 17, but these are for regular guys. Not necessarily athletes. However, if you're around 13 or 14 years old, then that's pretty good.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/03/backboard.jpg[/IMG]

could be a rim with a lower backboard.

Not really. My sophmore year i could touch the bottom of the rim. Now that im a senior, I can get about a good 5-6 inches above the rim..Just keep workin at it..you'll get a good vert sooner or later..

[QUOTE=Splitz77]Not really. My sophmore year i could touch the bottom of the rim. Now that im a senior, I can get about a good 5-6 inches above the rim..Just keep workin at it..you'll get a good vert sooner or later..[/QUOTE]

can you dunk?

haha sounds EXACTLY like me back in 9/10th grade. i was like around 5'8 too @ 195-200lbs lol..

[QUOTE=LebrickJames84'][IMG]http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/03/backboard.jpg[/IMG]

could be a rim with a lower backboard.[/QUOTE]

Could be. From the pic, though, it seems pretty much like what I based mine on.

I'm about 5 foot 8, 110 pounds. I've never noticed that im not as athletic as others until this year cause people shorter than me can already touch rim.

[QUOTE=Underballer]I'm about 5 foot 8, 110 pounds. I've never noticed that im not as athletic as others until this year cause people shorter than me can already touch rim.[/QUOTE]

5'8 and touching glass is still a relatively good vertical, if the backboard has a high cutoff. (some backboards extend almost a foot below the rim)

Is it good? No... is it terrible? No. It's pretty average. As with everyone, it depends on your reach. If your reach stinks then you could be jumping high but not getting high on the rim because your reach is short.

but yea those guys with 17 inch verts are the guys who sit at home and play video games or guitar all day... they don't do anything to stimulate their muscles so there verts are terrible. Average running vert for a High School athlete is probably around 30 or so... standing probably like 26-27. A good athlete will be 35 or higher so shoot for that and hope you get higher.

it is important to practice your jumping and work on your vert. Focusing too much on the numbers and your exact vert wont matter if you cant take off from any angles.

I find a lot of times I never get up as high in games because I'll rarely get the perfect pass or my steps to taking off will be altered by the defense. Don't worry about how high you can jump on paper, but keep working on it. Quick jumps are important in game play as well as getting up as high as you can from any angle.

I'm 19 years old, i'm 5'9 point guard and i'm 140 pounds ..
When i jump with two feets i can touch easily the backboard ..
When i jump with my right leg i touch the rim easily.
When i jump with my left leg i touch the backboard hardly.
(Yes i'm left handed).

What do you think about it?
Do you know more or less my vertical?

what up guys Ive been doin some training called the jump revolution...been on it for 2 months and gained 8 inches so far...check it out!

[url]www.thejumprevolution.com[/url]

[QUOTE=liljohnnywall]can you dunk?[/QUOTE]
no sh[B]i[/B]t sherlock if he said he can touch 5-6 inches above the rim, you think he can dunk?

[QUOTE=IInvented]no sh[B]i[/B]t sherlock if he said he can touch 5-6 inches above the rim, you think he can dunk?[/QUOTE]

Yea that doesn't mean he can dunk... quite the opposite actually. You have to be about 7 inches above the rim to dunk and if you are 5-6 inches above the rim without a ball... chances are that he is only 2-3 inches above it with on since you won't jump as high with a ball in your hand/extend as much or whatever it is.

So uh yea... maybe you should get ya facts straight before you start running someone down.

Everybody is so chill here compared to OTC
listen to Swaggin he knows what he is talking about.

Even I was doing everything totally wrong until just 2 weeks ago. And i am already so much faster, more explosive, jump higher than I have done before. I was doing low weight high reps which is a big NO NO :no: . all of the last 6 months when i started playing alot again. Until 2 weeks ago when i read this article on the Memphis Tigers Basketball trainer. It was the vertical workout Derrick Rose/CDR/Dorsey and all them did in college. I have only been doing it for 2 weeks and i am faster, more explosive, a better leaper then before. Basically what he said was as swaggin said.

You need 4 things to increase vert.

Power- Olympic Lifts

Strength- Not how big you are, but you actually strength output. To improve strength you need to lift a lot of weight low reps. 3-5 reps for 3 sets. Squats, Deadlifts, Calf raisers those type.

Maximum Jump effort- Plyos basically. box jumps, lunge jumps etc

Reactive Jumps- Depth Jumps, Squat Jumps .

I have been doing it for 2 weeks now 3-4 times a week. It works it really does take you to the next level athletically. Though only do it if your vertical is over 30 inch already. If it isn't do all those body weight programs until your legs are strong enough to do it.


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNErUAftz4[/url]

here are a few random clips
Besides the pick up game which was 1.5 months ago, the rest we like 9 months ago when i just started playing ball again after stopping for 2 years, i was so not explosive like i am now especially after doing that workout the last 2 weeks. A prime example of if you don't use it you loose it. Don't stop balling for years stretches.

k, my vertical is terrible, i can only barely touch glass on a backboard without a cutoff. probably like 15 inches? Need some help

hey lil mayo thanks for the info but i cant watch your video it says its private how can i watch it??

[QUOTE=Maga_1]I'm 19 years old, i'm 5'9 point guard and i'm 140 pounds ..
When i jump with two feets i can touch easily the backboard ..
When i jump with my right leg i touch the rim easily.
When i jump with my left leg i touch the backboard hardly.
(Yes i'm left handed).

What do you think about it?
Do you know more or less my vertical?[/QUOTE]
I'd say you'd want to someone to help measure your standing reach. After that's been established, maybe you could measure the highest point you can reach on the backboard via two foot vertical. The difference between your standing reach and the spot on the backboard you touched would provide a vertical number.

If you want someone to eyeball it, I have a relatively short reach for my height (95'' for 6'3'') so if I took an inch off reach for every inch of height until I met your 5'9'', you'd have about an 89'' standing reach.

An estimation is that standard NBA/College backboards may begin around 9'2''. Some backboards extend even further than that. So, if you had an 89'' standing reach (with some research, that appears realistic for a player your height) and you could just graze a backboard standing at 9'2'' (or 110 inches) that would mean you have a vertical of 21 inches.

However, the variance would come in if your reach is less than 89'' (let's say 86'') and if you could reach up a 9'2'' backboard by a couple inches (say to 9'6'' or 114 inches). This would make a large difference in your vertical result (28'' instead of 21''). Long story short, you are best served measuring things out.

95 inches is 7'11... if you aren't black it's about average. I have a friend who is 6'2 and his reach is 7'10 (94 inches) ... and I'm 5'11 and have a 7'7 (91 inches) and both of us are white... So it's just and inch of reach per inch of height.

[QUOTE=Swaggin916]95 inches is 7'11...it's about average. I have a friend who is 6'2 and his reach is 7'10 (94 inches) ... and I'm 5'11 and have a 7'7 (91 inches) and both of us are white... So it's just and inch of reach per inch of height.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good to me. I was just going off of the results from a free agent camp I attended. Turns out there's 12 billion 6'3'' guards out there trying to make it. Out of all the guys the same height as me, I had the lowest standing reach, so that's where I got the idea I might be below average.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]Sounds good to me. I was just going off of the results from a free agent camp I attended. Turns out there's 12 billion 6'3'' guards out there trying to make it. Out of all the guys the same height as me, I had the lowest standing reach, so that's where I got the idea I might be below average.[/QUOTE]

Were most of them black? Are you not black? If that's the case that is your answer right there. Black people have longer arms than white people more often then not (tend to carry quite a bit less bodyfat too)... and a lot of the times they are a lot longer.

Take thee 2009 NBA combine measurements for example: Chase Budinger stands at 6'6.25 with no shoes on and a vertical reach of 8'5. Wayne Ellington was the only other player who was at least 6'4 to have a reach lower than that (6'4.25 and a 8'4 standing reach.) Then you have guys like Tyreke Evans who is 6'4 with an 8'8 vertical reach. He is more than 2 inches shorter yet has a reach 3 inches higher than Budinger. This is just one example... but it's seen over and over again. I believe this to be one of main proponents why basketball is dominated by black people. On average, they are just longer than other races, and length really helps in basketball. There are plenty of reasons though don't get me wrong, this is just one of them.

I have a really bad vertical, like 24 inches or so, and I don't have long arms... I can just barely get the rubber on the backboard posted earlier.

With that said, I'm doing the vertical jump bible programs and afterwards I plan to do vertical mastery.

Do you guys know if doing 2 programs one after the other will still provide good results? My goal is to touch rim by next summer.

[QUOTE=carpevicis]I have a really bad vertical, like 24 inches or so, and I don't have long arms... I can just barely get the rubber on the backboard posted earlier.

With that said, I'm doing the vertical jump bible programs and afterwards I plan to do vertical mastery.

Do you guys know if doing 2 programs one after the other will still provide good results? My goal is to touch rim by next summer.[/QUOTE]

Well just make sure you rest at least week before starting Vertical Mastery... Otherwise there is no problem with it at all. See which one you like better. You can always do programs over again too.

shit, i'm 6'2 and i can wrap my fingers around the rim on good days and i'm white. i'm not happy with that at all though.

I'm 6'1" and I just started dunking this year. I can easily go up and dunk it with one hand off of one leg. I never worked on my hops, its all natural. I'm really kind of amazed because I didn't play ball for about a month. And I came back and just dunked it.

I'm 5'10 with a 90inch reach and on a good day I can rap like the first half of my fingers around the rim. So I have like a 32inch vert, but yea this summer I'm doing the jump manual which should get me dunking!

Ok guys i got a question, im 6 foot 4 and im 195 lbs, with my hand i can get around 5- 10 cm above the rim, im 19 year old.
Is this good, and do you guys have any tips to improve this?

[QUOTE=Button]Ok guys i got a question, im 6 foot 4 and im 195 lbs, with my hand i can get around 5- 10 cm above the rim, im 19 year old.
Is this good, and do you guys have any tips to improve this?[/QUOTE]

Depending on your reach your vertical sounds around the same as mine. Around 30 inches. Which is quite good.

Improvement can come from doing targeted weight lifting, following a jump programm, doing plyometrics or just keep training and training and eventually you'll get there. You're still young so you're bound to improve.

[QUOTE=Sticks]Depending on your reach your vertical sounds around the same as mine. Around 30 inches. Which is quite good.

Improvement can come from doing targeted weight lifting, following a jump programm, doing plyometrics or just keep training and training and eventually you'll get there. You're still young so you're bound to improve.[/QUOTE]

Well im still training 2 times a week + i do the p90x training programm 4 times a week, it has a plyometrics programm, wich im planning to do 2 days a week more often.
when the weather gets better, ill be playing outside more. my goal is to start dunking this year

[QUOTE=Button]Well im still training 2 times a week + i do the p90x training programm 4 times a week, it has a plyometrics programm, wich im planning to do 2 days a week more often.
when the weather gets better, ill be playing outside more. my goal is to start dunking this year[/QUOTE]

You'll get there then. I didn't get to dunking untill I was a year older then you because I wasn't really focussed on it. It just sort of came to me, ran a fastbreak, took up and want to lay it up and suddenly I realised I was dunking. Couldn't do it anymore for a few weeks after but it came in the flow of training.

I started doing some excercises during that off-season just like I'm planning on doing now. Working out my complete legs with leg pressing and squats. It's more to help me with rebounding then dunking though.

And a last piece of advice, be carefull when doing jumping exercises etc. on the blacktop. You don't want to end up with shin splints or other injuries.

[QUOTE=Sticks]You'll get there then. I didn't get to dunking untill I was a year older then you because I wasn't really focussed on it. It just sort of came to me, ran a fastbreak, took up and want to lay it up and suddenly I realised I was dunking. Couldn't do it anymore for a few weeks after but it came in the flow of training.

I started doing some excercises during that off-season just like I'm planning on doing now. Working out my complete legs with leg pressing and squats. It's more to help me with rebounding then dunking though.

And a last piece of advice, be carefull when doing jumping exercises etc. on the blacktop. You don't want to end up with shin splints or other injuries.[/QUOTE]

Ye i hope to make it, but rebouding is a small part of my game, but it should become a big part.
Because i am the tallest player on my team, getting the rebound should be my thing, my timing and possitioning isnt very well at the moment, but im working on it.

[QUOTE=Button]Ye i hope to make it, but rebouding is a small part of my game, but it should become a big part.
Because i am the tallest player on my team, getting the rebound should be my thing, my timing and possitioning isnt very well at the moment, but im working on it.[/QUOTE]

Rebounding drills are the most fun you can have with your team in my opinion.

If you want to practice yourself do some back-board tapping with the ball. It'll help your jumping and timing. And concerning positioning, as long as you box out it's all good.

[QUOTE=Sticks]Rebounding drills are the most fun you can have with your team in my opinion.

If you want to practice yourself do some back-board tapping with the ball. It'll help your jumping and timing. And concerning positioning, as long as you box out it's all good.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i know we have some exercises where the coach shoots the ball, and we have to fight for the ball with 3 persons, and everything goes, till 1 person scores the ball, its very nice.

Also if you're the big guy on your team make sure you're working on your 2-legged jump and your dropstep. You're going to be fighting down-low when you come and play with the big-boys.

My post play is nothing to wright home about i prefer to take an oudside shot, but for the sake of my team, i do practise it.
Haven't worked on a drop step yet that much, more trying to make leaners, and small fade-aways, not so far that i fall with my back on the ground, but far enough so i can shoot over the defender, this is going well.
My 2 legged jump is very weak, i can prob touch the rim barelly.
But yeah working on my jumping skills, is a priority for me atm