Wade vs Kobe so far this year

Dwyane Wade- 24.1 PPG 6.6 RPG 3.7 APG 1.7 SPG 1.1 BPG 49% FG, 38% 3PT, 78% FT 33 MPG

Kobe Bryant- 22.9 PPG 5.8 RPG 4.7 APG .9 SPG .3 BPG 44% FG 88% FT 33% 3PT 31 MPG


Who has been better? Of course Wade has the luxury of playing with LeBron and Chris Bosh, but Kobe has the luxury of playing with Pau, Lamar, Barnes, and Artest. Heat are 5-2 and Lakers are 7-0, but I think that's mostly because Heat are still getting to play together for the first time, and LAL has been a powerhouse for the past 3 years. At the end of the year, Heat should have a better record, but now that's irrelevant.

Who has been playing better SO FAR this year?

Adam Morrison.

Up until yesterday, Kobe. He didn't really do much of anything yesterday so his stats took a hit.

[QUOTE=KenneBell]Up until yesterday, Kobe. He didn't really do much of anything yesterday so his stats took a hit.[/QUOTE]
There's a reason why this thread was made today...

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]There's a reason why this thread was made today...[/QUOTE]
How about because they both have 7 games and I wasn't home today.... I asked a legitimate question, because they seem close right now.

Statistically, Wade has been better than Kobe every season. Now, he has the luxury of a very good team.

IMO, Wade will be > Kobe

Bryant, yesterday is going to cause him to take a hit in the stats. But he is average 23-4-5 in just 31 minutes a game.

Wade has been better so far IMO

[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]How about because they both have 7 games and I wasn't home today.... I asked a legitimate question, because they seem close right now.[/QUOTE]

If Kobe had his usually stat line of 25-5-5 would you have made this thread, the only reason it is close at the moment is because he was terrible last night.

2010-2011 STATISTICS
WADE:
[B]33.29[/B] MPG | [B]24.14[/B] PPG | [B]6.43[/B] RPG | 3.71 APG | [B]27.16[/B] PER

KOBE:
31.29 MPG | 22.86 PPG | 5.71 RPG | [B]4.57[/B] APG | 25.46 PER

Both TOP five in PER, and both players' teams have looked impressive. Wade is performing slightly better statistically as he has higher win shares, despite the fact Kobe's team has the better record. So, Wade.

Obviously wade has been playing better.

Kobe's PER was at 28.4 prior to last night, really it isn't all that close. Kobe has been more productive in less minutes played.

Like you guys said is only been 7 game..lol alway make that excuse but when it come to other player u guys just don't care.
and before last night kobe way better then wade, he got 2 game with 20+ point in the first half game and 1 tripe double. wade just got a high scoring game and alot of turnover.

[QUOTE=game3524]Kobe's PER was at 28.4 prior to last night, really it isn't all that close. Kobe has been more productive in less minutes played.[/QUOTE]


Wade has been playing less minutes because they've been blowing out teams, against New orleans is when he had to play alot of minutes because the game was close .

[QUOTE=game3524]Kobe's PER was at 28.4 prior to last night, really it isn't all that close. Kobe has been more productive in less minutes played.[/QUOTE]

How? Even if you want to exclude Kobe's last game, they are still close.

Judging either one before the last game of the NBA Finals is pointless. Neither is playing for the regular season.

[QUOTE=ashbelly]Wade has been playing less minutes because they've been blowing out teams, against New orleans is when he had to play alot of minutes because the game was close .[/QUOTE]
They also have 2 losses ...

:oldlol:

Kobe had two games in a row where he was sitting on 20+ pts at the half and didn't have to do ish afterwards. Could've easily had some 40 or possibly 50 point games already.

:facepalm

Lakers are blowing teams out too, kid.

Let's also remember that Kobe has played more inferior teams than Wade. Wade will probably be 30.00+ PER if he played against Laker opponents.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]They also have 2 losses ...

:oldlol:

Kobe had two games in a row where he was sitting on 20+ pts at the half and didn't have to do ish afterwards. Could've easily had some 40 or possibly 50 point games already.

:facepalm

Lakers are blowing teams out too, kid.[/QUOTE]

Lakers haven't played against the likes of Boston, Orlando and New Orleans. And, Wade has the higher win shares in as many games played.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]Let's also remember that Kobe has played more inferior teams than Wade. Wade will probably be 30.00+ PER if he played against Laker opponents.[/QUOTE]
u sure? because lebron alway get double team so it open it up for wade and kobe only do post up or create his own shot.

Well thus far it's been Wade. I expect them to be just about equal by allstar break, though...

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]Lakers haven't played against the likes of Boston, Oralndo and New Orleans. And, Wade has the higher win shares in as many games played.[/QUOTE]
Win Shares mean nothing to me. Another fantasy stat made up by geeks with calculators.

Do you think the Lakers would get severely out played facing any of those teams?

No ..

So far they have been playing like the best team in the league. Then Boston ... then New Orleans ... then Miami.

[QUOTE=Hihater]u sure? because lebron alway get double team so it open it up for wade and kobe only do post up or create his own shot.[/QUOTE]

You obviously don't watch Heat games.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]You obviously don't watch Heat games.[/QUOTE]
Wtf i watch all their game :lol :lol and everytime lebron try to drive in he get double team and he pass to the open man but d-wade barely get double anymore.

You can go check the game thread if u don't believe

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Win Shares mean nothing to me. Another fantasy stat made up by geeks with calculators.

Do you think the Lakers would get severely out played facing any of those teams?

No ..

So far they have been playing like the best team in the league. Then Boston ... then New Orleans ... then Miami.[/QUOTE]

They won't, but they would make Kobe work harder for his shot. Kobe wouldn't put up the same numbers playing against Boston, Oralndo and NO.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]They also have 2 losses ...

:oldlol:

[B]Kobe had two games in a row where he was sitting on 20+ pts at the half and didn't have to do ish afterwards.[/B] Could've easily had some 40 or possibly 50 point games already.

:facepalm

Lakers are blowing teams out too, kid.[/QUOTE]

in blow outs wade plays 26 minutes, they've had 5 blow out games, 2 close. Also in the 1st game wade played so badly, i'm surprised he's made up for it.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]Lakers haven't played against the likes of Boston, Orlando and New Orleans. And, Wade has the higher win shares in as many games played.[/QUOTE]

They also haven't played the Nets twice, the Timberwolves, or the 76ers.

[QUOTE=Hihater]Wtf i watch all their game :lol :lol and everytime lebron try to drive in he get double team and he pass to the open man but d-wade barely get double anymore.[/QUOTE]

No you don't.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]They won't, but they would make Kobe work harder for his shot. Kobe wouldn't put up the same numbers playing against Boston, Oralndo and NO.[/QUOTE]

Boston yes, but Orlando and NO, his production would be the same.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]No you don't.[/QUOTE]
How can u tell me i didn't? i saw all their game.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]They won't, but they would make Kobe work harder for his shot. Kobe wouldn't put up the same numbers playing against Boston, Oralndo and NO.[/QUOTE]
Boston would scheme wise ... not Orlando, or New Orleans. Kobe already faced one of the elite permiter defenders in the league in Shane Battier first game of the year. And he's better than any indivudal defender on ANY of those teams.

Gasol > Wade > Kobe > LeBron this season

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]Gasol > Wade > Kobe > LeBron this season[/QUOTE]
Wade > LeBron

Kobe > Gasol

Kobe playing in limited minutes, not having the offense run through him has been just as productive as Gasol whose averaging 6 more minutes per game, and more shot attempts.

:facepalm

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Wade > LeBron

Kobe > Gasol

Kobe playing in limited minutes, not having the offense run through him has been just as productive as Gasol whose averaging 6 more minutes per game, and more shot attempts.

:facepalm[/QUOTE]

That's why there is PER. It adjusts for things like pace and minutes, and Pau atill beats Kobe in that category. Pau's rate stats, as well as volume stats, outperforms Kobe.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]That's why there is PER. It adjusts for things like pace and minutes, and Pau atill beats Kobe in that category. Pau's rate stats, as well as volume stats, outperforms Kobe.[/QUOTE]
PER is a dumb stats that a guy from espn make up.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]That's why there is PER. It adjusts for things like pace and minutes, and Pau atill beats Kobe in that category. Pau's rate stats, as well as volume stats, outperforms Kobe.[/QUOTE]
PER another dumb one made up by geeks with calculators (Hollinger? LOL plz). Pau's stats beat Bryant's because of rebounding numbers. That's all ...

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]That's why there is PER. It adjusts for things like pace and minutes, and Pau atill beats Kobe in that category. Pau's rate stats, as well as volume stats, outperforms Kobe.[/QUOTE]

It's been 7 games.

[QUOTE=Dwade305]Papa Troll, making a thread for mini trolls to come and spit there BS.

Lebron opens up Wade? really? :roll: is he James Jones spotting up in a corner?:lol[/QUOTE]
I didn't said he open up wade..i said team don't double up wade like they do lebron..everytime lebron get the ball they alway double and force him to get rip of the ball but yea troll will be troll both end..kobe fan and wade fan.

[QUOTE=Hihater]I didn't said he open up wade..i said team don't double up wade like they do lebron..everytime lebron get the ball they alway double and force him to get rip of the ball but yea troll will be troll both end..kobe fan and wade fan.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hihater]u sure? because lebron alway get double team[B][SIZE="7"] so it open it up for wade[/SIZE][/B] and kobe only do post up or create his own shot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dwade305]........................[/QUOTE]
I don't mean it like that.. trying to said wade can drive it without get double team like he used too.