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TRADE! Kings trade Omri Casspi, pick to Cavaliers for JJ Hickson
The Sacramento Kings today acquired forward-center J.J. Hickson from the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for forward Omri Casspi and a conditional future first-round draft pick, according to Kings’ President of Basketball Operations Geoff Petrie.
More info and quotes: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7916[/url]
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Re: Hickson for Casspi? Advanced talks
kings HAVE to be throwing in more...
if they aren't i feel sorry for Cav's fans.
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ya cause I certainly am not down with that.
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[QUOTE=Godzuki]kings HAVE to be throwing in more...
if they aren't i feel sorry for Cav's fans.[/QUOTE]
Why? They just drafted Tristan Thompson at 4 who's a very similar player and Casspi is an excellent player that couldn't get consistent PT this year because Westphal has retarded rotations.
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yeah, I actually think Casspi is a better player than hickson, who still hasnt really seemed to put it all together.
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Amazing. One of the reasons the Cavs didn't want to trade for Amare was because they didn't want to give up Hickson.
If they had trade for Amare, LBJ and Amare would both be in Cleveland right now.
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[QUOTE=hawkfan]Amazing. One of the reasons the Cavs didn't want to trade for Amare was because they didn't want to give up Hickson.
If they had trade for Amare, LBJ and Amare would both be in Cleveland right now.[/QUOTE]
No, Lebron was leaving anyways. Stop being revisionist; the holdup was on Phoenix's end, for good reason. They were getting screwed even with Hickson in the deal/
Anyway, surprised nobody posted that Kings' 1st round pick is also in the deal.
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Draft night that were rumors of Douglas for Casspi. Hickson would be an absolutely great pick up for Sacramento. They have to be giving up more though... maybe Jason Thompson? Hasaan Whiteside?
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Lmfao if this deal goes down.
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[QUOTE=Grinder]Why? They just drafted Tristan Thompson at 4 who's a very similar player and Casspi is an excellent player that couldn't get consistent PT this year because Westphal has retarded rotations.[/QUOTE]
JJ is a borderline star, on the cusp of it. he's WAY better than Casspi, who barely even cracked the Kings rotation. i'm not saying Casspi is terrible, since he's tall, athletic, and can knock down 3's, but JJ is a WAY better and more proven player. its not even close.
JJ came into his own last year. before last year i'd say he was overrated and maybe a bust, but last year when he was getting shots and run, he was beasting more games than not. i mean putting up damn near 20/10 type numbers...
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they better get more from sac or that's robbery
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[QUOTE=ctown4eva]No, Lebron was leaving anyways. Stop being revisionist; the holdup was on Phoenix's end, for good reason. They were getting screwed even with Hickson in the deal/
Anyway, surprised nobody posted that Kings' 1st round pick is also in the deal.[/QUOTE]
And losing Amare for nothing was better? They would have still had that cap space, since they would have gotten Big Z's expirer and also had Hickson.
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[QUOTE=Godzuki]JJ is a borderline star, on the cusp of it. he's WAY better than Casspi, who barely even cracked the Kings rotation. i'm not saying Casspi is terrible, since he's tall, athletic, and can knock down 3's, but JJ is a WAY better and more proven player. its not even close.
JJ came into his own last year. before last year i'd say he was overrated and maybe a bust, but last year when he was getting shots and run, he was beasting more games than not. i mean putting up damn near 20/10 type numbers...[/QUOTE]
A borderline star?:lol Please. Hickson will never be a star nor make an all star game.
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[QUOTE=hawkfan]Amazing. One of the reasons the Cavs didn't want to trade for Amare was because they didn't want to give up Hickson.
If they had trade for Amare, LBJ and Amare would both be in Cleveland right now.[/QUOTE]
The word is that they turned us down but I know if we gave Hickson up, we wanted more than just having Amar'e for a couple months. He wanted a big name city.
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Are you kidding me? They want to move Hickson for Casspi?
I thought they could do better than that.
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]A borderline star?:lol Please. Hickson will never be a star nor make an all star game.[/QUOTE]
Ehhh. I would not say that. He is still only 22, crazier things have happened in the NBA. He has improved every year he has been in the league and has shown explosiveness at times, it just needs to be consistent. Still, I would not be happy trading JJ straight up for Casspi. Give me Casspi and Greene or Casspi and Thompson, I might be a little happier.
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[QUOTE=hawkfan]Amazing. One of the reasons the Cavs didn't want to trade for Amare was because they didn't want to give up Hickson.
If they had trade for Amare, LBJ and Amare would both be in Cleveland right now.[/QUOTE]
how many times do cleveland fans have to tell you that we did throw in hickson, but phoenix backed down.
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[QUOTE=Rowe]Are you kidding me? They want to move Hickson for Casspi?
I thought they could do better than that.[/QUOTE]
1st round pick foo.
Read.
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[QUOTE=jbryan1984]Ehhh. I would not say that. He is still only 22, crazier things have happened in the NBA. He has improved every year he has been in the league and has shown explosiveness at times, it just needs to be consistent. Still, I would not be happy trading JJ straight up for Casspi. Give me Casspi and Greene or Casspi and Thompson, I might be a little happier.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to say Hickson sucks or anything, but I don't see him becoming anything more than a very solid starting caliber 4. Regardless, Hickson >>>> Casspi.
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[QUOTE=hawkfan]Amazing. One of the reasons the Cavs didn't want to trade for Amare was because they didn't want to give up Hickson.
If they had trade for Amare, LBJ and Amare would both be in Cleveland right now.[/QUOTE]
:roll: Amare wouldn't have re-upped with the Cavs.
Good trade. Seems even. The SF slot in Cleveland was a revolving door last season. OC had a sophmore slump last season, but I haven't lost faith in his talents. JJ Hickson is a good player.
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[QUOTE=Godzuki]JJ is a borderline star, on the cusp of it. he's WAY better than Casspi, who barely even cracked the Kings rotation. i'm not saying Casspi is terrible, since he's tall, athletic, and can knock down 3's, but JJ is a WAY better and more proven player. its not even close.
JJ came into his own last year. before last year i'd say he was overrated and maybe a bust, but last year when he was getting shots and run, he was beasting more games than not. i mean putting up damn near 20/10 type numbers...[/QUOTE]
WTF. Now, sure, he was a much improved player last year (mostly from getting more run), but this shit is over the top. Dude put up 14/9 on 45% shooting. He will never be a star. 20/10 my ass
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I don't know why Hickson has such a good reputation in ISH. Is he really really good on NBA2k or something?
Hickson is an average rebounder and a below average everything else. I don't see him becoming much better than this either. Pretty even roleplayer trade.
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[QUOTE=Godzuki]JJ is a borderline star, on the cusp of it. he's WAY better than Casspi, who barely even cracked the Kings rotation. i'm not saying Casspi is terrible, since he's tall, athletic, and can knock down 3's, but JJ is a WAY better and more proven player. its not even close.
JJ came into his own last year. before last year i'd say he was overrated and maybe a bust, but last year when he was getting shots and run, he was beasting more games than not. i mean putting up damn near 20/10 type numbers...[/QUOTE]lol @ "borderline star"
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]A borderline star?:lol Please. Hickson will never be a star nor make an all star game.[/QUOTE]
did you watch Cle much last year? he was dominant some games. only problem is he makes dumb mistakes or fumbles the ball a lot, or is wishy washy where he doesn't show up some games, but he can dominate when he does.
i'd say at the very least he's well above average at the position, and could end up a star. like i said borderline....
and Casspi is nowhere near IMO. not saying he can't be better with higher value, if anything its probably low due to his PT in Sac, but as of now he isn't remotely close to JJ's value IMO.
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Hickson averaged 17/12 post ASB.
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Official and done
[QUOTE]basketballtalk Kurt Helin
by docktora
Pick goes to Cavs RT @mr_jasonjones: Trade is done. Omri Casspi headed to Cleveland for J.J. HIckson and a conditional first round pick.
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply[/QUOTE]
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Hopefully its not a 2012 pick, i wanna see SacTown pick up Perry Jones, or James McAdoo.
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i read it most likely top 10 protected
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Sounds like it is lottery protected, which is a bad deal.
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]Official and done[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Good news for Sac fans
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wtf type stupid shit is this :facepalm
hickson>> casspi
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]Official and done[/QUOTE]
man i'll be surprised if Cav fans aren't railing against Dan Gilbert between the 4 pick and this trade. IMO this trade is horrible, should've at least been a lottery pick.
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The cavs also get a 1st round pick. but it's lotto protected the 1st year... then top 10 protected... :facepalm
SAC WINS this trade
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Great, great trade for Cleveland. OC is alot better than you guys are giving him credit for. He will the MIP in the NBA next year.
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[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]The cavs also get a 1st round pick. but it's lotto protected the 1st year... then top 10 protected... :facepalm
SAC WINS this trade[/QUOTE]
i thought we could get better for hickson, but obviously cleveland wants thompson to start and hickson would presumibly be angry with that so cleveland had to get a deal done before the lock out. i wish it was top 10 protected this year but it's whatever. now hickson has to play behind cousins and casspi could get solid minutes in cleveland, we did need a tall small forward and he has proven he could score.
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Re: TRADE! Kings trade Omri Casspi, pick to Cavaliers for JJ Hickson
The trade is official: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7916[/url]
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Damn. Sacramento just added a perfect compliment to there young core. If they could add a pass first PG (and move Jimmer or Thornton to 6th man) they'd have a bright future.
I get the Cavs want a SF, but I'd have to think they can do better.... but I guess not lol
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Kings did good. I think the Kings will be a solid team. Cavs could've done better.
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[QUOTE=MeLO MvP 15]Damn. Sacramento just added a perfect compliment to there young core. If they could add a pass first PG (and move Jimmer or Thornton to 6th man) they'd have a bright future.
I get the Cavs want a SF, but I'd have to think they can do better.... but I guess not lol[/QUOTE]
like i said, they obviously wanted tristan to start this season and hickson would have requested a trade if that happened most likely. and since the lockout could start tonight at 12:00 it was now or never.