First two weeks of 2011-12 NBA regular season OFFICIALLY CANCELED

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Earlier in the day, progress was reported on a near agreement in regard to changing the mid-level exception in free agency, but that’s a minor issue in the labor disputes that caused and prolonged the ongoing NBA lockout.

According to Ken Berger of CBS Sports, after the meeting the first person to speak to the media was David Stern, who said: “I’m sorry to report … that the first two weeks of the season have been canceled.”

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Now it's officially real.

For fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k's sake...........

sounds like players are to blame....will be interesting to see what they say.

I mean, I can't really be too shocked. It's just disappointing to actually see it in black and white.

The rhetoric is hilarious from both sides:

On they'll say they are close. Next minute they are far apart. Next minute, they are miles apart. Next minute they are close.

It is f*cking ridiculous.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]sounds like players are to blame....will be interesting to see what they say.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you want the players to take blame.

It takes two sides, genius

I'm not surprised. If they were not able to come to a conclusion after months of discussing, what makes you think they would settle their differences in a couple of days? The players will cave in around January like the 99 season and their deal will get worse. The players have no leverage since the owners are already losing money. Oh well. We'll just focus on basketball after the NFL season. :facepalm

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[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]The rhetoric is hilarious from both sides:

On they'll say they are close. Next minute they are far apart. Next minute, they are miles apart. Next minute they are close.

It is f*cking ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Stern says they're apart on every issue, while silver says it's the system, not economic issues

This is pitiful

[QUOTE=Sawbucks23]I'm not surprised. If they were not able to come to a conclusion after months of discussing, what makes you think they would settle their differences in a couple of days? The players will cave in around January like the 99 season and their deal will get worse. The players have no leverage since the owners are already losing money. Oh well. We'll just focus on basketball after the NFL season. :facepalm[/QUOTE]

I think a lot of people, many in sports media included, remained hopeful that one side might finally drop the posturing and cave to some degree. Enough to ween Stern away from the idea of cancelling games, or at least delay cancellation.

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I just can't believe they don't realize the harm that cancelling games will do. If they think giving up some money in the CBA is bad, wait until ratings and attendance go way down and there is not enough money anyway.

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]Sounds like you want the players to take blame.

It takes two sides, genius[/QUOTE]

of course it does. the owners are to blame as well. that is just obvious.

but form what we've heard, the players not accepting a true 50/50 split of BRI makes little to no business sense. Now, of course we could be getting false information....but it seems like an ego thing.

The players lose 160 million dollars by missing the first two weeks of the season. Which means that they are now -40 million by not starting on time.

And that is if they get what they want....which I don't see how that is possible because the players stance gets weaker every day this goes on while the owners stance gets stronger.

We'll know soon enough.

Let just the owners fckn cancel the whole season. Everyone is taking a huge hit by this slow economy and those greedy players and agents can't even sacrifice even a bit for the sake of their fans and those other who their jobs are dependent on this coming season.

:banghead: Not a surprise there will be games missed, it still sucks though

Too many egos and too much stubborness from both sides. Specifically from Hunter and Stern.

In light of what happened with the NFL's lockout they couldn't have played this out any worse.

Horrible leadership all the way around.

The players are so ****ing stupid. Dumbass derek fisher trying to act like he's a professional, just make the ****ing deal, your still going to be a ****ing millionaire along with every other player, you ****tards.

Wow!! What the ****? :(

[SIZE="5"]Why are they doing this to us? [/SIZE]

[QUOTE=DMV2]Wow!! What the ****? :(

[SIZE="5"][B]Why are they doing this to us?[/B] [/SIZE][/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=ukfan22]I just can't believe they don't realize the harm that cancelling games will do. If they think giving up some money in the CBA is bad, wait until ratings and attendance go way down and there is not enough money anyway.[/QUOTE]

Actually the system right now is what makes nba just third in popularity so they are changing the system so they could compete with nfl when it comes to ratings. Even NHL is more financially stable than nba.

[QUOTE=knicksman]Actually the system right now is what makes nba just third in popularity so they are changing the system so they could compete with nfl when it comes to ratings. Even NHL is more financially stable than nba.[/QUOTE]

nobody will ever compete with the NFL

Awful.

[QUOTE=Applause]:applaus...:no:

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These new eras players are learning they dont run sh*t. A large segment of owners HATE these dudes attitude. If you all can't see this is what's fueling the owners fortitude, then I got a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

I hope there's as much boycotting of the NBA as possible over the next few years. Show them that the fans won't just come crawling back when they pull this crap.

[QUOTE=ukfan22]nobody will ever compete with the NFL[/QUOTE]

this is true, why else does madden sell like hot cakes even though they release the same game every year

someone convince me this isn't all on the players

[QUOTE=ukfan22]nobody will ever compete with the NFL[/QUOTE]

yup but when it comes to revenues, i think they can. NFL only plays 16 games to 82 games in the nba yet nfl could generate 1.6 billion to nba's 1.1 billion in a season. If theres a hardcap, more fans will support the smaller markets thus increasing revenue and we wont be having this lockout.

[QUOTE=Dave3]I hope there's as much boycotting of the NBA as possible over the next few years. Show them that the fans won't just come crawling back when they pull this crap.[/QUOTE]

Feel the same way.

[QUOTE=Applause]:applaus...:no:

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back to the topic :rant :rant
A lot of good games in the 1st week.:cry:

[QUOTE=ukfan22]someone convince me this isn't all on the players[/QUOTE]

its always both parties faults when negotiations fail unless one side is just being absurd. i don't think that is the case here.

from what i've heard though...it does seem like the players are operating more out of an ego sense than a sound business sense. i really need to see the details though....because i don't see how losing 160 million in salary right off the bat for the players with 2 weeks now gone helps them at all.

espn reported today that the two sides were 800 million apart over a 6 year period. well, the players just cost themselves 160 million by not taking the deal...and they probably cost themselves the ability to get something else they wanted by making the BRI agreement contingent on something else.

so again, i don't see much of the business sense of it. and my initial thought is that the owners are actually telling the truth about the dollars if they are so easily willing to cancel two weeks of the season. and why wouldn't they? it strengthens their position and they don't have to pay out player salary or operating expenses. so i understand their position.

i'm just still a little confused on the players position in terms of what business sense it makes.

Looks like a NHL will get a lot of new fans from these greedy athletes and owners. I feel like a lot of blame actually belongs to the Commissioner David Stern.

It's apparent that the NBA reps still want a hard cap implemented. If that's the case, there will not be a season as the Union will never agree to a hard cap.

[QUOTE=DaPerceive]Looks like a NHL will get a lot of new fans from these greedy athletes and owners. I feel like a lot of blame actually belongs to the Commissioner David Stern.[/QUOTE]

Already got a new one from me. Started during last year's playoffs. Hard to be on the NBA players side when so many of them just care about the money and show no heart what so ever on the court. I understand it completely just as a fan of the game it's hard to back. Owners are at fault too obviously.

I don't expect a season at all. Think we'll lose the entire year. Witch is laughable considering the position the NBA was in.

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From what I've gathered, it seems like NBA wants to move toward an NFL like contract where if a player is unproductive,you can cut your losses paying him whatever remaining 30-60 millions left on his contract.

History of the NBA has always been extremely guaranteed....This completely changes NBA and the players are fighting to avoid that hard cap. People bring up Gilbert Arenas, Allan Houston,Grant Hill but these guys dont represent the whole league.

The Union consists of veterans liek Fisher who are set for life financially, and Wade,Melo,Bron,PP,Ray Allen who are set 5 times for life...If the union and players are them....they have said publically they are willing to sacrifice a season and I believe them.

A lot of the younger or less talented players have been going back to finish their senior year in college, and making "bill" money doing showcases..

Does anyone secretly want the entire season to be canceled just to ruin the NBA for good? :banana:



I mean.....DARN IT, the NBA is canceling games......whatever shall we do?........

What, you all thought this will be like the NFL "lockout" and over in a month? :roll:

Collectively, with no season, does the owner not lose anything? Since they were operating at a loss before anyway. So surely they can hold out for as long as it takes?