Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs
Swede Halbrook - 7'3" 235 lbs (played only 2 seasons)
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Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs
Swede Halbrook - 7'3" 235 lbs (played only 2 seasons)
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jeremy lin :rockon:
only because everyone else gets to say his name :)
Mel Counts was amazing, he was a 43% shooter during his career! Amazing!
[QUOTE=millwad]Mel Counts was amazing, he was a 43% shooter during his career! Amazing![/QUOTE]
he was playing against short white men tho
[QUOTE=inclinerator]he was playing against short white men tho[/QUOTE]
Read again, Mel Counts was terrible..
[QUOTE=millwad]Mel Counts was amazing, he was a 43% shooter during his career! Amazing![/QUOTE]
A dominating 6.0 career rebounds per game :bowdown:
[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]don't bother feeding a troll bro....... I'm sure he knows that Chamberlain's 18 field goals in a game without a miss was against 7' Mel Counts.[/QUOTE]
They use him to prop up Wilt :oldlol:
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:oldlol:
I've heard that Counts was a beast when it came to jumping and dunking, according to a report I've read he was called "Air Counts" and I know that if he would have played today he'd average 50 points per game and 50 rebounds..:hammerhead:
[QUOTE=millwad]I've heard that Counts was a beast when it came to jumping and dunking, according to a report I've read he was called "Air Counts" and I know that if he would have played today he'd average 50 points per game and 50 rebounds..:hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
Tex Winter said that the League changed the rules so Counts had to actually shoot his freethrows instead of dunking them like he did in high school.
5 star thread
Re- oh wait :(
The funny part is how some posters will defend these scrub 50s players like they were some type of Gods. Prime Bill Russell in todays league is playing for the D-league
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]The funny part is how some posters will defend these scrub 50s players like they were some type of Gods. Prime Bill Russell in todays league is playing for the D-league[/QUOTE]Stop saying stupid things.
[QUOTE=millwad][IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2DawLDM6Ifs/TWA79FKRQqI/AAAAAAAAAaM/5OcM1VKk6KQ/s1600/mellll+counts.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:bowdown: :bowdown:
oh wait...
:facepalm
That's really all? :oldlol:
Wilt had it easy.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Tex Winter said that the League changed the rules so Counts had to actually shoot his freethrows instead of dunking them like he did in high school.[/QUOTE]
Damn, didn't know that!
Wasn't he also that guy who kicked a mountain lion's butt?
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Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.
[QUOTE=Odinn]Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.[/QUOTE]
It should also be noted those guys were taller than their listed heights, since they measured without shoes on back in the day....
[QUOTE=Odinn]Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.[/QUOTE]
Very bad example dude. Shaq played in the greatest center era in NBA history.... the 90's and even early 00's. Hakeem, Robinson, Mutumbo, Smits, Daughtery, Wallace, Sabonis, Ewing, Zo etc were all in their prime... list goes on. The average center of the 90's would be a starting center today most likely.
Even if Wilt was only two or three inches taller than these players on average.. him outweighing them by 70+ pounds on average is a HUGE advantage.
Just because a dude is tall doesn't mean he isn't a scrub...
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs
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It should be noted that Kareem Abdul Jabbar was listed at 7'2" 225 pounds by basketball-reference.com......listed at 267 pounds on NBA.com website....the sources aren't reliable by any means.
Besides, Kareem weight-wise was lighter, yet is still 20 times better than any center today....SIZE has no argument here.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Very bad example dude. Shaq played in the greatest center era in NBA history.... the 90's and even early 00's. Hakeem, Robinson, Mutumbo, Smits, Daughtery, Wallace, Sabonis, Ewing, Zo etc were all in their prime... list goes on. The average center of the 90's would be a starting center today most likely.
Even if Wilt was only two or three inches taller than these players on average.. him outweighing them by 70+ pounds on average is a HUGE advantage.[/QUOTE]
I stated the span that Shaq won his rings. Can you name an all-time great center that in his prime from 2000-06 span?
Do you see what I'm trying to show? You can not discredit a player for his era. You can a make judgement about it and you shape your list based on that. But acting like this?
[QUOTE=Odinn]Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
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All those guys were scrubs minus Bellamy and Russell.
[QUOTE=Odinn]Swede Halbrook 7-3 - 235
Walter Dukes 7-0 - 220
Chuck Share 6-11 - 235
Walt Bellamy 6-11 - 225
Ray Felix 6-11 - 220
Bevo Nordmann 6-10 - 225
Darrall Imhoff 6-10 - 220
Phil Jordan 6-10 - 205
Clyde Lovellette 6-9 - 234
Red Kerr 6-9 - 230
Gary Alcorn 6-9 - 225
Bill Russell 6-9 215
I just cheked out the rosters of 1960-62 span from the basketball-reference.
What's the point of thread? Someone who had both talent and size would be remembered for that era. It was the beginning of the league and that one was Wilt Chamberlain. But you can not discredit him for being too good for the L. It's saying like "Shaq won all his rings when there was no all-time great center in his prime" with ignoring those scary Kings and Blazers frouncourts.
Whatever you say; Wilt is top 10 ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 centers ever without a doubt. He is one of top 5 scorers ever. He has a strong case to be called top 5 or top 3. Even he has a case for the goat.[/QUOTE]
I added the first one
All the others are below 230 or under 7'
Swede Halbrook only played 2 seasons and averaged 6.6 RPG
[QUOTE=Odinn]I stated the span that Shaq won his rings. Can you name a all-time great center that in his prime from 2000-06 span?[/QUOTE]
Ming, Wallace, Big Z, Sabonis, Camby, Mutumbo, Ratliff, Divac were all good centers in 2000-2006. Even in 00-06 the center crop was superior to the 60's.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Ming, Wallace, Big Z, Sabonis, Camby, Mutumbo, Ratliff, Divac were all good centers in 2000-2006. Even in 00-06 the center crop was superior to the 60's.[/QUOTE]
You deserve this;
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
[QUOTE=Odinn]You deserve this;
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
... Ming and Wallace are two of the best centers ever. Shaq said he considers Yao a top 5 center of all time. Wallace is arguably a top 5 defender and rebounder all time. Then a couple others I mentioned are HOFers. Reality is Wilt had nobody that could even try to body him up, Shaq did.
Sabonis, Wallace and Yao all had their success against Shaq in the paint at some point or another.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker] Prime Bill Russell in todays league is playing for the D-league[/QUOTE]
The stupid, IT BURNS!!!!
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]... Ming and Wallace are two of the best centers ever. Shaq said he considers Yao a top 5 center of all time. Wallace is arguably a top 5 defender and rebounder all time. Then a couple others I mentioned are HOFers. Reality is Wilt had nobody that could even try to body him up, Shaq did.
Sabonis, Wallace and Yao all had their success against Shaq in the paint at some point or another.[/QUOTE]
If you basing "body up" on weight.....wasn't Shaq over 50 pounds heavier than any center around during his years with the Lakers?? Being able to name only 2 guys within 50 pounds of prime Shaq doesn't help your case. :violin:
[QUOTE=bwink23]If you basing "body up" on weight.....wasn't Shaq over 50 pounds heavier than any center around during his years with the Lakers?? Being able to name only 2 guys within 50 pounds of prime Shaq doesn't help your case. :violin:[/QUOTE]
Actually I wasn't going by size. I was naming two elite centers from the 2000-2006 era. In terms of size... Sabonis, Z, Smits, Yao and a few others had the bulk to match Shaq... something Wilt didn't face in his era.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Ming, Wallace, Big Z, Sabonis, Camby, Mutumbo, Ratliff, Divac were all good centers in 2000-2006. Even in 00-06 the center crop was superior to the 60's.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by the sixty's in any case? Early sixties? Yeah of course racial quotas were still in effect. Late sixties? With Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Nate Thurmond, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Wilt, Russell and briefly Abdul-Jabbar. Versus defensive specialists, injury prone bigs and skilled Europeans past their prime.
[QUOTE=Owl]What do you mean by the sixty's in any case? Early sixties? Yeah of course racial quotas were still in effect. Late sixties? With Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Nate Thurmond, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Wilt, Russell and briefly Abdul-Jabbar. Versus defensive specialists, injury prone bigs and skilled Europeans past their prime.[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause:
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86][B]Shaq said he considers Yao a top 5 center of all time[/B][/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Actually I wasn't going by size. I was naming two elite centers from the 2000-2006 era. In terms of size... Sabonis, Z, Smits, Yao and a few others had the bulk to match Shaq... something Wilt didn't face in his era.[/QUOTE]
NONE of those dudes had the bulk to match Shaq, LOL!!!! That's a joke right?? Again, i can count guys on 3 fingers who were within Shaq's 50-pound mark, LOL....
Get a clue.
[QUOTE=bwink23]NONE of those dudes had the bulk to match Shaq, LOL!!!! That's a joke right?? Again, i can count guys on 3 fingers who were within Shaq's 50-pound mark, LOL....
Get a clue.[/QUOTE]
Haha, nice try, Brian.
[QUOTE=bwink23]NONE of those dudes had the bulk to match Shaq, LOL!!!! That's a joke right?? Again, i can count guys on 3 fingers who were within Shaq's 50-pound mark, LOL....
Get a clue.[/QUOTE]
Are they the returning Oliver Miller (Circa 03-04), Thomas Hamilton (Circa 99-00) and Jahidi White?
Because they were awesome.
[QUOTE=bwink23]NONE of those dudes had the bulk to match Shaq, LOL!!!! That's a joke right?? Again, i can count guys on 3 fingers who were within Shaq's 50-pound mark, LOL....
Get a clue.[/QUOTE]
Sabonis- 7'3 290 pounds (was probably more heavy too).
Yao- 7'6 305 pounds.
Smits- 7'3 260 pounds.
Big Z- 7'3 265 pounds.
Obviously they are still a lot smaller than Shaq but they were big/strong enough to put up more of a challenge than Wilt had. As I said.... a few of these centers did indeed have their moments against Shaq.
Who is 7 foot today and plays good??? Not one of them can outscore or outrebound 6-9 Kevin Love. There are no 20 and 10 guys. The best are all in LA and Kobe has to save the team from mediocrity. DH outplays Gasol and Bynum together even when his game is off. DMC got potential. I know what you are sayin but look around, it ain't happenin. The beast are 6'10 ish today.
Who was within 25lbs of Shaq and could play??? And Jordan had length on almost all shooting guards too. Advantages don't mean anything if you can't play.
[QUOTE=millwad]All those guys were scrubs minus Bellamy and Russell.[/QUOTE]
Clyde Lovellette is in the Hall of Fame, dumbass, how the hell was he a scrub? :facepalm
Walter Dukes was a two-time All-Star, Ray Felix was an All-Star and won ROY, and Red Kerr was a 3-time all-star. Stop making up crap.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Tex Winter said that the League changed the rules so Counts had to actually shoot his freethrows instead of dunking them like he did in high school.[/QUOTE]
Someone please tell me.....
How do you dunk a FT? Were they ble to stand at the ft line and just leap? Did they get a running start?