"How overrated is Kyrie Irving???" -PleezeBelieve

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885[/url]

[B]April 06, 2011[/B]
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Off the top of my head, the Cavs and Raps fanbases have convinced themselves that this guy is Jesus in a point guard jersey. They actually want to tank and trade established NBA players just for the best opportunity to draft this dude.

Don't ask me how, but its a fact.

Now moving on... when's the last time a prospect received so much hype for basically doing nothing?? Duke won the championship with the same team he re-joined and basically stymied ball movement in the loss against Arizona.

The guy is a 6'1 attacking, scoring guard that many have convinced themsleves is the best point guard prospect since Jason Kidd.

What the hell are people smoking, man???[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.[/QUOTE]

Now, a little over one year later, Cleveland is going to have the best backcourt in the NBA with a rookie starting at SG and Irving.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Irving is a baws :bowdown:

That guy is a clear troll. At least I hope so because someone shouldn't be that stupid.

Irving is a decent player and nothing special. He's going to be a starter in this league. I compare him to OJ Mayo. A decent starter on any team but nothing special.

I think people's love for Irving came when he did that commercial as some old guy. That helped his image and overrated him.

You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Irving is a decent player and nothing special. He's going to be a starter in this league. I compare him to OJ Mayo. A decent starter on any team but nothing special.

I think people's love for Irving came when he did that commercial as some old guy. That helped his image and overrated him.

You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.[/QUOTE]

What? Nothing special? :roll: This dude has SUPERSTAR potential. I can see him being the best PG in the game in a couple of years.

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]What? Nothing special? :roll: This dude has SUPERSTAR potential. I can see him being the best PG in the game in a couple of years.[/QUOTE]

Nobody even thinks what you are thinking during the season but since that commercial came out....people are all over him.

Like I said, he will be a starting PG in this league and that's it. A couple of all stars and that's it.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Irving is a decent player and nothing special. He's going to be a starter in this league. I compare him to OJ Mayo. A decent starter on any team but nothing special.

I think people's love for Irving came when he did that commercial as some old guy. That helped his image and overrated him.

You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.[/QUOTE]

Come on man, Irving had be getting plenty of props on this board before that commercial.. Dude was super clutch all season and it was
mentioned a lot. He's going to be an all-star at some point of his career IMO. Top 4 PG in a few years.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]
You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.[/QUOTE]

yes there was, what are you talking about?

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Nobody even thinks what you are thinking during the season but since that commercial came out....people are all over him.

Like I said, he will be a starting PG in this league and that's it. A couple of all stars and that's it.[/QUOTE]

People were hyping him way before the season started. He was talked about a lot during the season and especially after he won the ROY.

irving might be better than cp3 soon

[QUOTE=marion706]irving might be better than cp3 soon[/QUOTE]


Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.[/QUOTE]

Is this another PleezeBelieve account? :facepalm

I can understand why an OKC fan won't appreciate a player like Kyrie

[QUOTE=Crimzon]Is this another PleezeBelieve account? :facepalm[/QUOTE]

as much as I would love to take credit of whomever this guy is...no, I am not him.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.[/QUOTE]
did you watch the all star rookie game?

Im going to pray you are trolling if not, you're just batsh1t retarded

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.[/QUOTE]
Hes got one of the most in control games in the league.. his handles, finishing, penetrating are so smooth its like hes got the ball on a string. And his decision making is incredible for a young player. Wait til next year.

Did somebody in here really just compare Kyrie Irving to Oj Mayo?
:roll:

:coleman:

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.[/QUOTE]
:coleman:

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Irving is a decent player and nothing special. He's going to be a starter in this league. I compare him to OJ Mayo. A decent starter on any team but nothing special.

I think people's love for Irving came when he did that commercial as some old guy. That helped his image and overrated him.

You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.[/QUOTE]


:roll: :roll: :roll:

irving had one of the best rookie pg seasons of all time


probly top 3-5

statically he was the clutches offensive player in the league


in the month of february where he was at his peak he was averaging

20/7/5

potential to be the best point guard in the league.


you are the biggest troll ever if serious.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you guys are trolling.

He's an average passer....just another one of these score first PG's of this era...minus the athletic ability.[/QUOTE]


can you name the best shooter on cleveland team?

not a good passer :lol

your stupid as hell.

[QUOTE=LBJMVP]:roll: :roll: :roll:

irving had one of the best rookie pg seasons of all time


probly top 3-5

statically he was the clutches offensive player in the league


in the month of february where he was at his peak he was averaging

20/7/5

potential to be the best point guard in the league.


you are the biggest troll ever if serious.[/QUOTE]

Tyreke Evans said hi. 20 5 5

lol @ greatest rookie PG season.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Tyreke Evans said hi. 20 5 5

lol @ greatest rookie PG season.[/QUOTE]
You're dumb and wrong. Shut the **** up.

Irving has been receiving praise on ISH all season long.

also, I can name more....

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Tyreke Evans said hi. 20 5 5

lol @ greatest rookie PG season.[/QUOTE]


worst comparison ever


:lol :lol :lol

[QUOTE=Maniak]You're dumb and wrong. Shut the **** up.

Irving has been receiving praise on ISH all season long.[/QUOTE]

Now I know you are full of it.

So Kyrie had a better season than Tyreke?

ROFL

You guys are dumb and I don't usually call people names or insult them on message boards.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you are full of it.

So Kyrie had a better season than Tyreke?

ROFL

You guys are dumb and I don't usually call people names or insult them on message boards.[/QUOTE]


easily had a better season

way more efficient, clutcher... better scorer, had a way bigger impact on every game.

if you deny any of that, then you simply didnt watch the games.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you are full of it.

So Kyrie had a better season than Tyreke?

ROFL

You guys are dumb and I don't usually call people names or insult them on message boards.[/QUOTE]
I was saying you're wrong about Kyrie only getting praise after a commercial. That's just false.

Him and Tyreke are pretty equal, although I'd rather have Irving.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Now I know you are full of it.

So Kyrie had a better season than Tyreke?

ROFL

You guys are dumb and I don't usually call people names or insult them on message boards.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you watch the games instead of just looking at the box scores. Kyrie's rookie season was better than Tyrekes. And Kyrie is the better player by a mile.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]as much as I would love to take credit of whomever this guy is...no, I am not him.[/QUOTE]
Damn PB is so embarrassed about those idiotic remarks he is too afraid to post under his own handle :roll:

[QUOTE=LBJMVP]easily had a better season

way more efficient, clutcher... better scorer, had a way bigger impact on every game.

if you deny any of that, then you simply didnt watch the games.[/QUOTE]

20 5 5 is better than 18 3 5

Kings 29 -57 winning at 35%

Cavs 21-45 winning at 31 %


All things point to Tyreke having the better year. So please stop overrating Kyrie because he did a commercial.

[QUOTE=flipogb]I can understand why an OKC fan won't appreciate a player like Kyrie[/QUOTE]

I'm a huge Kyrie fan.. Take that ignorant bull **** elsewhere.

Kyrie is indisputably an elite level player. Didn't he have the highest 4th quarter scoring average league-wide?

Everyone is wrong sometimes w/ their predictions though, no?

[QUOTE=Maniak]You're dumb and wrong. Shut the **** up.

Irving has been receiving praise on ISH all season long.[/QUOTE]

He's wrong about Irving being another Mayo, IMO anyways. Don't see why he's catching all this shit tho, esp the post you quoted. Mayo did like 18.5 points a game with 4 boards 3 dimes. Obviously not Irving territory as he really lacked the efficiency but nothing to hang your head at. Had tons of hype.

'Reke the guy whom you flipped at for using put up a season that only guy's like MJ, LeBron, Oscar did. 20-5-5 numbers. Both players were on a lottery team going nowhere. Evans was looking like a D-Wade out there. Irving plays a beautiful game. Really in control and really mature. He's pretty advanced as a shooter as well. For those reasons I don't think he'll regress like an OJ Mayo or 'Reke. I can understand somebody believing his potential isn't as high as others.

Point is OJ becoming a bench player throwing up 11 ppg was outta nowhere. I'm sure there was people who seen it coming but if you said that after his rookie year you would have been laughed at. He had a f*ck load more hype than Irving before college. People had him right there behind Rose.

I disagree with his opinion but really who knows.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Tyreke Evans said hi. 20 5 5

lol @ greatest rookie PG season.[/QUOTE]
Yes Irving had a better rookie season that Evans. Here's why...

[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=irvinky01&y1=2012&p2=evansty01&y2=2010[/url]

Irving was simply more efficient and played more than half a quarter less per game than Evans did his rookie season. It's plain and simple to see the numbered when you compare them to per 36 numbers.

I'm not here to say that Irving is going to be the best point guard in the league soon or things of that sort. See I'm a realest when it comes to things like this. Does Irving have the potential to be a star in the league? Hell yes he does. Will he be a top point guard or a star? Only time will tell.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]20 5 5 is better than 18 3 5

Kings 29 -57 winning at 35%

Cavs 21-45 winning at 31 %


All things point to Tyreke having the better year. So please stop overrating Kyrie because he did a commercial.[/QUOTE]
But Tyreke played 37.2 MPG, Kyrie only played 30.5 MPG, If Kyrie played the same MPG as Tyreke did he'd average about 22 ppg/6.5 apg/4.5 rpg on better shooting %

[QUOTE=flipogb]I can understand why an OKC fan won't appreciate a player like Kyrie[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=9erempiree]20 5 5 is better than 18 3 5

Kings 29 -57 winning at 35%

Cavs 21-45 winning at 31 %


All things point to Tyreke having the better year. So please stop overrating Kyrie because he did a commercial.[/QUOTE]


you didnt take into account anything i put

kyrie was more efficient, had a bigger impact on games, way clutcher, better passer, better ball handling.

cavs second best player was out for more than half the year, the whole team was riddled with injuries

and we sat kyrie for an extended period as well.

we were a playoff team before varajoe was hurt.

[QUOTE=FatComputerNerd]Kyrie is indisputably an elite level player. Didn't he have the highest 4th quarter scoring average league-wide?

Everyone is wrong sometimes w/ their predictions though, no?[/QUOTE]


i think he was third, but he lead the league in all offensive clutch stats which is a game that is within five points with 5 minutes less.

[QUOTE=9erempiree]Irving is a decent player and nothing special. He's going to be a starter in this league. I compare him to OJ Mayo. A decent starter on any team but nothing special.

I think people's love for Irving came when he did that commercial as some old guy. That helped his image and overrated him.

You didn't hear much about Irving till he made that commercial and now people are talking about him.[/QUOTE]
Dude will be cp3 2.0 in 3 yrs