Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[I]Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant: ‘No comparison’ between Dream Team and 2012 Olympic squad[/I]

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/michael-jordan-memo-to-kobe-bryant-no-comparison-between-dream-team-and-2012-olympic-squad/2012/07/12/gJQAoSlYfW_story.html[/url]
[quote]CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Michael Jordan says there’s no way Kobe Bryant and this year’s USA Olympic basketball team could’ve beaten the 1992 Dream Team.

Jordan told The Associated Press Thursday that he laughed, “I absolutely laughed” when hearing Bryant’s comments that the squad training in Las Vegas could take Jordan and company.

[B]Jordan says there was “no comparison” which team was better, adding that Byrant comparing the two teams “is not one of the smarter things he ever could have done.”[/B]

Jordan spoke prior to a celebrity golf tournament in Charlotte.

He says the 1992 team, which included 11 future Hall of Famers and won its six games by an average of more than 43 points en route to capturing the gold medal, may not have been as athletic but was definitely smarter.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Jordan stays sonning Kobe. :oldlol:

MJ is wrong and he knows it. I would love to see these teams play a series against each other. Kobe and MJ would really be the best match up ever.

I don't think the gap between Jordan/Kobe is as big as some believe. But at the same time, there is a gap. Kobe is a beast, 2nd best SG ever. But Jordan was the lead-dog for every team he played on in the NBA. Kobe was a sidekick for like 8 seasons.

Why is everyone making a big deal about this? It must be just because Kobe said it, cause if anybody else said it they wouldn't give a ****.

Are people seriously gunna sit there and say this years team won't at least have a chance? GTFOH with that BS. I do think the 92 team would win, but it ain't as clear cut like people make it.

And OP STFU. Last i checked MJ said Kobe is the ONLY one who can be compared to him. Didn't say that b!tch you stan for tho :oldlol:


[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]I don't think the gap between Jordan/Kobe is as big as some believe. But at the same time, there is a gap. Kobe is a beast, 2nd best SG ever. But Jordan was the lead-dog for every team he played on in the NBA. Kobe was a sidekick for like 8 seasons.[/QUOTE]

It really isn't as big. And i'm not even going to go into that sidekick BS. But the gap isn't as big. Even Phil jackson said Kobe is more skilled than MJ. The difference to me is that MJ was bigger, more athletic, and took way smarter shots.

There is also no comparison between the opposition the Dream Team faced, and what our current squad is facing.

Back in 1992, the competition was a joke.
Yet Kobe is the arrogant one, eh?

Because Jordan is the best evaluator of talent... In fact MJ believing that the DT would win makes me believe that 2012 would destroy them because he is such a bad basketball mnd.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]MJ is wrong and he knows it. I would love to see these teams play a series against each other. Kobe and MJ would really be the best match up ever.[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree with you. Best of 7 series? '92 in 6-7 games.

Gotta love the oldschool coming out of the woodwork blasting Kobe though. :applause:

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]I don't think the gap between Jordan/Kobe is as big as some believe. But at the same time, there is a gap. Kobe is a beast, 2nd best SG ever. But Jordan was the lead-dog for every team he played on in the NBA. Kobe was a sidekick for like 8 seasons.[/QUOTE]
In terms of skill/peak, I think that the MJ/Kobe gap is like splitting hairs. I always wonder if people here actually play basketball because people tend to think that players of Jordan's caliber are unbeatable.

Personally, the dream team vs the redeem team would be a seven game series that goes down to the wire. I wouldn't even know who wins that one.

1992 vs 2012 is a little more clear cut but if this was a one game thing, I would put my money on the dream team. I still think this whole "no comparison" thing is just a response that matches how bold Kobe was.


[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]There is also no comparison between the opposition the Dream Team faced, and what our current squad is facing.

Back in 1992, the competition was a joke.
Yet Kobe is the arrogant one, eh?[/QUOTE]
Good point, if the Yugoslavia team had the chance to stay together for the 92 Olympics....I don't know what would happen.

Drazen Petrovic,Toni Kukoc, Dino Radja, Vlade Divac plus a host of good players would definitely not get blown out by the Dream Team. Drazen didn't fear Jordan at all, dude dropped 40 on him the next year as a Net if I am not mistaken.

Kobe=MJ
Lebron>Barkley
Magic>Westbrook
Durant>Pippen
Robinson>Tyson

(anyone bringing up Bird never watched the olympics....dude was hurt and was barely able to play more then 10 minutes per)

12' Bench>92'

Drexler was basically a worse version of Danny Granger and wouldn't even make the squad in modern times....Ewing didn't even have more moves the Yao Ming...


12' is the better overall squad.

As much as I love watching the current NBA players, especially Kobe. There aint no way in the world this current squad of team USA Olympic basketball players gonna beat the Dream Team. They played with a mean streak. They had the GOAT. Sure this current squad is fast. But they are not going to attack the lane for long...with Barkley and Malone knocking them on their butts. I can see Lebron now trying to back Karl Malone down in the paint. Malone would be like "Boy are you serious? I pull semi trucks that are stronger than you. Get outta here!" Dream Team would work this current Team USA.

OP, are you like a D12 fan or something? Is that the Kuniva you are referring to in your name?

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]MJ is wrong and he knows it. I would love to see these teams play a series against each other. Kobe and MJ would really be the best match up ever.[/QUOTE]

Not in that scenario.

That's Jordan at his absolute peak versus Kobe a few years past his prime.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]In terms of skill/peak, I think that the MJ/Kobe gap is like splitting hairs. [B][SIZE="5"]I always wonder if people here actually play basketball because people tend to think that players of Jordan's caliber are unbeatable[/SIZE][/B].

Personally, the dream team vs the redeem team would be a seven game series that goes down to the wire. I wouldn't even know who wins that one.

1992 vs 2012 is a little more clear cut but if this was a one game thing, I would put my money on the dream team. I still think this whole "no comparison" thing is just a response that matches how bold Kobe was.[/QUOTE]


No most people here don't play at all...the only time they play they need a 110 volt power cord and a XBox controller.

they just spew the same regurgated filth they hear on TV...

[B]"UHHH...no way 2012 team could win.....1992 team had Barkley and Jordan ( who I only seen play once)"[/B]

There is a gap between 29yr old MJ and 34yr old Kobe. Dream Team was full of cerebral players where the competition level was unreal. And documented. Todays players are more friendly with one another. Who complained about hard fouls on the Dream Team? I know some cried over D.Cousins hard fouling.

The size of the Dream Team trumps them so much. Come down the lane Bron.

was there an official starting lineup for the dream team


remember seeing the poster and magazine cover with

magic,jordan,ewing, barkley and malone

4 guys who were/would be MVPs of the league with ewing being the other guy...all in their athletic primes


it's laughable to even entertain that olympic team 2012 could even carry dream team's socks


take malone out of lineup..move barkley to 4....pippen at 3...and olympic team 2012 gets run out of the gym

[QUOTE=swag2011]Why is everyone making a big deal about this? It must be just because Kobe said it, cause if anybody else said it they wouldn't give a ****.

Are people seriously gunna sit there and say this years team won't at least have a chance? GTFOH with that BS. I do think the 92 team would win, but it ain't as clear cut like people make it.

And OP STFU. Last i checked MJ said Kobe is the ONLY one who can be compared to him. Didn't say that b!tch you stan for tho :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Lol at you accusing anyone of making a big deal about this. This must have really rustled your jimmies, huh? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]Not in that scenario.

That's Jordan at his absolute peak versus Kobe a few years past his prime.[/QUOTE]
I always thought that 90 Jordan was his peak. The 92 version was pretty amazing as well, but I wasn't talking about a purely physical thing. I would just love to see Kobe's mentality going up against MJ and vice-versa. It would really be a treat to see.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]In terms of skill/peak, I think that the MJ/Kobe gap is like splitting hairs. I always wonder if people here actually play basketball because people tend to think that players of Jordan's caliber are unbeatable.

Personally, the dream team vs the redeem team would be a seven game series that goes down to the wire. I wouldn't even know who wins that one.

1992 vs 2012 is a little more clear cut but if this was a one game thing, I would put my money on the dream team. I still think this whole "no comparison" thing is just a response that matches how bold Kobe was.



Good point, if the Yugoslavia team had the chance to stay together for the 92 Olympics....I don't know what would happen.

Drazen Petrovic,Toni Kukoc, Dino Radja, Vlade Divac plus a host of good players would definitely not get blown out by the Dream Team. Drazen didn't fear Jordan at all, dude dropped 40 on him the next year as a Net if I am not mistaken.[/QUOTE]



I don't disagree with anything you said. But there is a gap between the two players. But im far from a Jordan fan. No clue why people believe he was all that much better. Its gotten to the point you can't debate about Jordan because of his demi-god status. :facepalm

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]OP, are you like a D12 fan or something? Is that the Kuniva you are referring to in your name?[/QUOTE]

Nope.

Jordan, as great as he was, is an arrogant fool.

OH MY GOD, ANOTHER COMPETITOR JUST CLAIMED THAT THE OTHER TEAM CANT EVEN TOUCH THEM. SO TOTALLY UNHEARD OF.

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Lol at you accusing anyone of making a big deal about this. This must have really rustled your jimmies, huh? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about ESPN. Skip Bayless, Ric Bucher, and everybody else. It's been on constant rotation since early yesterday lol. But i see you refused to comment on anything else i said. :oldlol: That's cute, you tried though, obvious agenda is obvious. Keep trying though , it's entertaining.

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]Not in that scenario.

That's Jordan at his absolute peak versus Kobe a few years past his prime.[/QUOTE]

So we're going to pretend like in 92' Magic and Bird were better then prime Paul and prime LeBron?

Paul l Williams l Irving
Bryant l Wade l Harden
James l Durant
Love l Griffin
Howard l Bynum

Would give the Dream Team fits due to their athleticism, quickness and versatility. So tired of everyone kissing the old school players' ass. It's like people who do that are just trying to solidify their basketball knowledge or something, since picking the older generation somehow makes them look more knowledgeable in the context of the discussion. :rolleyes:

Only positions the Dream Team would clearly win is at the PF/C. SF I'd take James/Durant over Pippen/Bird, SG I'd take Jordan/Drexler mostly because Kobe is past his prime and the PG's are a wash. Sorry 92' Magic was not that much better then a prime Chris Paul, if at all.

Jordan is right. Kobe is one of the few comparable players in the 2012 team. Look at the other softies..

-you have guys that teamed up with each other instead of beating each other
-guys that choked deep in the finals, and couldn't get over the hump without another champion to hold his hands
-you have guys that complained about tough fouls, while he only jacks up shots

Even Kobe can't help this team.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Kobe=MJ
Lebron>Barkley
Magic>Westbrook
Durant>Pippen
Robinson>Tyson

(anyone bringing up Bird never watched the olympics....dude was hurt and was barely able to play more then 10 minutes per)

12' Bench>92'

Drexler was basically a worse version of Danny Granger and wouldn't even make the squad in modern times....Ewing didn't even have more moves the Yao Ming...



12' is the better overall squad.[/QUOTE]


This. The current Olympic team would whoop the Dream team's ass. Is Scottie going to guard both Durant and Lebron? :oldlol: CP3 would also hand Stockton his ass on a platter. He couldn't even stop Bobby Hurley from driving in practice :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Rnbizzle]Jordan, as great as he was, is an arrogant fool.[/QUOTE]
I dont think his arrogance is unwarranted, he's just doing some basic trash talking.

Kobe:"We can beat the dream team"

MJ:"They couldn't touch us, no comparison"

Obviously not the exact quotes, but there is nothing wrong with what was said. The problem lies in the fact that people believe that the 12' team would get destroyed by the Dream Team like they are 1992 Angola or something.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24][B]Kobe=MJ[/B]
Lebron>Barkley
Magic>Westbrook
Durant>Pippen
Robinson>Tyson

(anyone bringing up Bird never watched the olympics....dude was hurt and was barely able to play more then 10 minutes per)

12' Bench>92'

Drexler was basically a worse version of Danny Granger and wouldn't even make the squad in modern times....Ewing didn't even have more moves the Yao Ming...


12' is the better overall squad.[/QUOTE]

Not only is this the dumbest way to compare teams ever, but the bold automatically disqualifies you from intelligent discussion.

2012 International Teams > 1992 International Teams. Since 2002 the International teams are getting stronger every year.

[QUOTE=bmulls]Not only is this the dumbest way to compare teams ever, but the bold automatically disqualifies you from intelligent discussion.[/QUOTE]


He's the biggest Kobe D1ckrider in this forum. A 29 yrs.old Jordan will abuse 34 yrs.old Kobe.

I don't think Kobe is completely off base with what he meant. Alot of people do point out to Bird and Magic when they talk about how great the Dream Team were, even though at that time they probably weren't even top 5 players on that team. With that said, the Dream Team still wins cause they have Jordan and their big men of Robinson/Ewing/Malone would've dominated inside. Won't be a blowout like people exaggerate, but probably within 10 points. I'd assume the best lineups would've been something like:

Chandler
Lebron
Durant
Kobe
CP3

vs.

Robinson
Malone
Barkley
Jordan
Pippen

Dream Team wins. Robinson dominates Chandler. Malone/Barkley and Lebron/Durant would just continuously score on each other with no one being able to defend the other. Jordan outplays Kobe significantly. Pippen makes CP3 life a living hell.

For that high level of talent, on any given night, either team could win. That's about it. Over a 7 game series, I'd put my money on the original dream team. Their inside presence is just too commanding.

[QUOTE=bmulls]Not only is this the dumbest way to compare teams ever, but the bold automatically disqualifies you from intelligent discussion.[/QUOTE]


Its not...1 on 1 wise...kobe can take jordan

[QUOTE=swag2011]I'm talking about ESPN. Skip Bayless, Ric Bucher, and everybody else. It's been on constant rotation since early yesterday lol. But i see you refused to comment on anything else i said. :oldlol: That's cute, you tried though, obvious agenda is obvious. Keep trying though , it's entertaining.[/QUOTE]

What else should I address, moron? I'm simply quoting what Jordan said. So what agenda are you talking about? :oldlol:

chris paul is a shell of what he used to be....so be easy with the talk about washed up magic in 92

his last year in the league before retiring, he carried lakers to finals...beating talented blazers team in the process


kobe is not what he used to be either


dream team, if you look at it objectively, would serve olympic 2012


league was tougher, more competitive in 92...and dream teamers were the cream of the crop


westbrook, harden, iggy? gtfoh

1992 team would smash 2012 team.

1992 team is stronger at every position except for small forward.

[QUOTE=20Four]Its not...1 on 1 wise...kobe can take jordan[/QUOTE]


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Westbrook, the most athletic PG ever, would do some unspeakable things to Magic and Stock.

[QUOTE=Lebron23]:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Get real. This isn't Ehlo or starks guarding Jordan. You're dreaming if u think Jordan would dominate Kobe.

[QUOTE=swag2011]Why is everyone making a big deal about this? [B]It must be just because Kobe said it, cause if anybody else said it they wouldn't give a ****. [/B]

Are people seriously gunna sit there and say this years team won't at least have a chance? GTFOH with that BS. I do think the 92 team would win, but it ain't as clear cut like people make it.

And OP STFU. Last i checked MJ said Kobe is the ONLY one who can be compared to him. Didn't say that b!tch you stan for tho :oldlol:




It really isn't as big. And i'm not even going to go into that sidekick BS. But the gap isn't as big. Even Phil jackson said Kobe is more skilled than MJ. The difference to me is that MJ was bigger, more athletic, and took way smarter shots.[/QUOTE]

That's really all it ever is. The sad part about it is, then they try to play it of as being objective. When we already know it's not.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Westbrook, the most athletic PG ever, would do some unspeakable things to Magic and Stock.[/QUOTE]

Yeah like be funnelled to the big men getting rejected or put on his ass. Thus Westbrook would start shooting jumpers playing into the Dream Teams hands. And neglect the actual stars on the court with him by not passing.