Right now,If you were the GM of either team, would you trade Lebron for Nash?:lol:
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Right now,If you were the GM of either team, would you trade Lebron for Nash?:lol:
I think with the :lol: you posted, you know the answer.
i guess everyone knows :)
hell no. no for phoenix because it's got a shot to win a title with it's current lineup, and nash is the key. no for the cavs because bron is a 22 year old phenom who can carry any style of team and is going to get better, and nash is 10 years older with a suspect back condition.
cavs are not a running team anyways, so i think even if nash is traded, there won't be TOO much impact.
[QUOTE=space]cavs are not a running team anyways, so i think even if nash is traded, there won't be TOO much impact.[/QUOTE]
hm, do you think nash would have any non running team an impact ? i think he'd be good, but the suns style really favors nash greatly
[QUOTE=bail]Right now,If you were the GM of either team, would you trade Lebron for Nash?:lol:[/QUOTE]
Maybe if the Cavs were run by someone with mental retardation. I am starting to wonder about Ferry, though.
This would be a bad trade for both team at least right now.
[QUOTE=Kemosabe]This would be a bad trade for both team at least right now.[/QUOTE]
are you kidding me? Phoenix would have Nash on a bus immediately.
yeah, sure lebron is gonna run the best offense in the league as well as nash does :sleeping
[QUOTE=DreamRockets]yeah, sure lebron is gonna run the best offense in the league as well as nash does :sleeping[/QUOTE]
The opportunity to get Lebron in his prime for an aging PG could not be passed up.
Stupid thread. we all know the answer.
[QUOTE=allball]The opportunity to get Lebron in his prime for an aging PG could not be passed up.[/QUOTE]
i agree only an idiot would give lebron up for nash!
This is a damn good question.
But I default to the same old reason of Bron being younger.
So LeBron!
[QUOTE=crisoner][B]This is a damn good question.
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But I default to the same old reason of Bron being younger.
So LeBron![/QUOTE]
:oldlol: thread of the year best question ever posted book it!
Yes because you aquire an MVP player who makes everyone better. And after the deal I'd...
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Neither team would do the trade right NOW but can you imagine Nash in Cleveland? He'd end up killing Mike Brown after like 2 practices.
[QUOTE=Indian guy]Neither team would do the trade right NOW but can you imagine Nash in Cleveland? He'd end up killing Mike Brown after like 2 practices.[/QUOTE]
I bet the Suns would do it.
[QUOTE=Indian guy]Neither team would do the trade right NOW but can you imagine Nash in Cleveland? He'd end up killing Mike Brown after like 2 practices.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: are you serious the suns would do that trade in a heartbeat silly boy!
[QUOTE=KIWI BOY]:oldlol: are you serious the suns would do that trade in a heartbeat silly boy![/QUOTE]
i don't know. not that you wouldn't rather have a 22 year old bron than a 32 year old nash, but the suns have a legit shot at a title right now, and if you replace nash with bron that's probably out the window. then you've got the expense of it. no way you can keep that team together and absorb bron's even larger contract. as long as you had bron and amare you'd be competitive forever, but you'd sacrifice chemistry and a serious title run right now for hope for the future. you'd probably have to do it because bron is a money machine, but i think cotton and the fellas would be biting their nails.
Bad for both teams.
[QUOTE=dejordan]i don't know. not that you wouldn't rather have a 22 year old bron than a 32 year old nash, but the suns have a legit shot at a title right now, and if you replace nash with bron that's probably out the window. then you've got the expense of it. no way you can keep that team together and absorb bron's even larger contract. as long as you had bron and amare you'd be competitive forever, but you'd sacrifice chemistry and a serious title run right now for hope for the future. you'd probably have to do it because bron is a money machine, but i think cotton and the fellas would be biting their nails.[/QUOTE]
If Bron is as good as they say he is...he should be able to get the talented Suns team to the NBA finals just the same.
You have to tade LeBron for Nash if you can.
The reason? Contracts. Steve Nash is locked up for [B]three[/B] more years of his prime after this year (at well below market value), while LeBron is only under contract for [B]two[/B] more years, after which he will opt out and run to the biggest-market team that can afford him.
I hope you found this answer both useful and informative.
Like KIWI, GOBB and others said --Suns would accept that deal quickfast
[QUOTE=GOBB]If Bron is as good as they say he is...he should be able to get the talented Suns team to the NBA finals just the same.[/QUOTE]
that's a big IF, and i don't know that any pg other than kidd could run these suns the way d'antoni wants them run. but you're right. it should require minimal roster maintance to rework the team around bron. trouble is the money. i think that would be three max deals plus you need to be able to keep raja, barbosa, and diaw without sacrificing the chance to upgrade your backup guards and center.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Yes because you aquire an MVP player who makes everyone better. And after the deal I'd...
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Haha, you caught me with that one...
[QUOTE=dejordan]that's a big IF, and i don't know that any pg other than kidd could run these suns the way d'antoni wants them run. but you're right. it should require minimal roster maintance to rework the team around bron. trouble is the money. i think that would be three max deals plus you need to be able to keep raja, barbosa, and diaw without sacrificing the chance to upgrade your backup guards and center.[/QUOTE]
kidd wouldnt be as effective as nash on the suns, not even close, kidd cant shoot which is a BIG no-no in the suns game style, nash can't combine scoring and playmaking the way nash does, nash is shooting 50%/50%/90% this season which is something kidd wouldnt do in his dreams, defense ? i agree kidd is a WAY better defender, but in the suns style defense has no relevance.
[QUOTE=lakers-city]kidd wouldnt be as effective as nash on the suns, not even close, kidd cant shoot which is a BIG no-no in the suns game style, nash can't combine scoring and playmaking the way nash does, nash is shooting 50%/50%/90% this season which is something kidd wouldnt do in his dreams, defense ? i agree kidd is a WAY better defender, but in the suns style defense has no relevance.[/QUOTE]
true, kidd's not nash, and they would suffer for the change, but he at least has the instincts to run that offense. i don't think there's another pg in league (maybe paul) who can maintain that pace end to end all game long.
[QUOTE=bail]Right now,If you were the GM of either team, would you trade Lebron for Nash?:lol:[/QUOTE]
Lebron is the 6' 8" man child and steve nash isn't bad, matter of fact he's damn good but......no way can he hold Lebrons' shoes. Put Nash on dem cavs and we suck even more than we do now! Put lebron on the suns and they are still a championship contender.
i think if lebron was on the suns, they'd just be another un-organized offensive-minded team with no direction.
lebron can't make the passes Nash can on a consistent basis, no one in the league can at the moment..with lebron instead of Nash, it would just be a lot of random 3 point shooting, drives to the basket, one on one ISO's
with Nash, everyone in the Suns offense has a purpose. Nash is one of the only PG's in the league who, in a half-court set, is constantly given the ball to see what he can do. When i watch almost any other team, once the PG passes the ball in the half-court set, he may or may not see it again. Nash almost always gets the ball back, this is because he gets guys wide-open shots, time and time again. Lebron can't do that. I think with Lebron, the Suns offense would be more like the Wizards..high scoring and unorganized, not nearly as efficient as the Suns..not nearly as consistent, either.
if Nash were on the Cavs, he would turn into merely a very good sharpshooter who can make the good pass. With hughes and Z getting so many touches, Nash wouldnt be able to dominate the ball like he does in Phoenix. that doesnt work, either..
I dont think either team makes the trade. Even with Lebron being younger, the Suns arent going to abandon this plan that theyve been orchestrating for years. And with lebron, that plan would not see fruition. it would have to change.
I'd like to see the Suns with LeBron, provided he's the PG, and you just insert him into the current lineup. Let LeBron work from the top of the key, have the shooters on the wing and Amare in the paint, you'd never be able to send a double his way.
So if we agree that the Suns would give Nash for Lebron, but not vice versa, how can Nash be the MVP this year? Just wondering...
[QUOTE=Heretik32]So if we agree that the Suns would give Nash for Lebron, but not vice versa, how can Nash be the MVP this year? Just wondering...[/QUOTE]
bad logic..the suns/mavs wouldnt trade nash/dirk for eachother, but they are still equally deserving Mvp candidates
extenuating (spelling?) circumstances such as the system and role-players are what makes this a bad deal for cleveland..not that Nash is a lesser player than Lebron (which is arguable)
[QUOTE=Heretik32]So if we agree that the Suns would give Nash for Lebron, but not vice versa, how can Nash be the MVP this year? Just wondering...[/QUOTE]
What?? Who has agreed to this?? Who the hell are you talking to?? The Suns would give Nash for Lebron?? Just where would Lebron fit in this lineup? Among Marion, Stoudemire and Diaw? They don't need him...
Some of you honestly seem to believe the hype about Lebron James and have elevated him to Wilt Chamberlain levels without letting him actually fulfill his potential. Yes, he has a great start and will be a top player one day, but that day IS NOT today. Steve Nash is the best player in the NBA, and has been for YEARS now, stop joking around, please! I know Lebron looks really cool in his latest shoe commercial, but let's please keep track of reality here. The Suns had a 33 game win improvement in Nash's FIRST YEAR with them, and EVERY key player's numbers have gone up with him there. This is not a flashy, young, high scorer, like Lebron James, this is a TWO-TIME MVP, who is capable of transforming an entire team. Maybe Lebron can be that one day too, time will tell. But for now, he's just the best player on the Cavs, and one of the elite in the East. He is certainly NOT a two-time MVP leading the best team in the league to two 15+ winning streaks in one season!? Lebron's time is coming, but Nash's time is now.
[QUOTE=and1]hm, do you think nash would have any non running team an impact ? i think he'd be good, but the suns style really favors nash greatly[/QUOTE]
I like Nash, terrific player.. but i've been saying.. Imagine him on a team like, let's say, the NJ nets. People have talked about that hypothetically and said that they'd be better, but i strongly disagree. First off, the team is nowhere near being as athletic and fast as the Suns, they don't have any really great shooters, and they depend on their defense more than their offense. So no, Nash wouldn't fit everywhere..
But J-Kidd on the other hand, he can play fast paced, slow paced, defensive, offensive, whatever is needed and wherever.
No NO No. After this season I think Suns would. Amare and LeBron would be sick but Cavs laugh.
[quote]hell no. no for phoenix because it's got a shot to win a title with it's current lineup, and nash is the key.[/quote]
and with that, the Nash hype has officially gotten out of hand.
oh my freaking god.
Lebron for Nash.... there's no possible way that the trade would make sense for either team.. that's all i need to say really.
[quote]Lebron for Nash.... there's no possible way that the trade would make sense for either team.. [/quote]
OH MY GOD
OH MY ****ING GOD
I want to kill ALL OF YOU.
but alas I cannot.
****!
When did Nash become Oscar Robertson? I must have missed that somewhere along the way.
There are those that think the Suns would no longer be a title contender with LeBron James on an already stacked team? :wtf: