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Obama sets a food stamp record...AGAIN.
[url]http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/09/food-stamp-use-reaches-another-high-in-september-47-7-million-participants/[/url]
:facepalm
What's a shame is the shit the obese slobs that are a large part of food stamp nation are allowed to buy... frozen pizza, frozen nuggets, and cases of Big Red.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234][url]http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/09/food-stamp-use-reaches-another-high-in-september-47-7-million-participants/[/url]
:facepalm
What's a shame is the shit the obese slobs that are a large part of food stamp nation are allowed to buy... frozen pizza, frozen nuggets, and cases of Big Red.[/QUOTE]
your quite judgmental arnt you? its nice that the government can help those in a bad position, yes some abuse it, but most need it. Keep people that cant support themselves going out and committing crimes in your neighborhood right?
[B]Texas,[/B] California, and Florida were the states with the most recipients,
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:facepalm Doesn't Obama know we need this money for wars? :facepalm
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Did you know you can't receive them if you are a student? I find that to be complete BS as if anyone needs them, it would be student struggling to make something better of themselves. Instead they have to choose between food and education.
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Regardless of any kind of blame game or fault, this statistic is troubling...
1970's: 1 out of 50 on food stamps
Now: 1 out of 6.5 on food stamps
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[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]your quite judgmental arnt you? its nice that the government can help those in a bad position, yes some abuse it, but most need it. Keep people that cant support themselves going out and committing crimes in your neighborhood right?
[B]Texas,[/B] California, and Florida were the states with the most recipients,[/QUOTE]
I have no issue with helping people who need help...and want to help themselves. I think the idea of welfare, in of itself though, is awful. There should be job skills training, interviewing, and assistance in finding employment. Food stamps should provide you basic needs such as milk, different meats, breads, vegetables, fruits and rice. Nothing less.
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It's Bush's fault just like everything else. :D
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[QUOTE=Kobe 4 The Win]It's Bush's fault just like everything else. :D[/QUOTE]
sarcasm detected and approved
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]I have no issue with helping people who need help...and want to help themselves. I think the idea of welfare, in of itself though, is awful. There should be job skills training, interviewing, and assistance in finding employment. Food stamps should provide you basic needs such as milk, different meats, breads, vegetables, fruits and rice. Nothing less.[/QUOTE]
smh at morons like this guy acting like every food stamp recipient is some unemployed obese slob.
truth is, the vast majority of food stamp recipients work shitty minimum wage jobs. the single largest segment of food stamp recipients is not unemployed people, but WALMART EMPLOYEES. also, children make up an enormous segment of people on food assistance.
you are a fvcking idiot
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hmm @ blaming the government. There are many reasons why America and other industrial nations are in the situations they are in. Start looking at some of the daily poor decisions you make and work the way up. Yes the Government has contributed to the problem that we find our selves in but overall it is our collective flaws that have lead us down this path. Whether it is "greedy bankers" or "lazy welfare recipients" or just down right stupidity of the majority of the population.
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[QUOTE=Nanners]smh at morons like this guy acting like every food stamp recipient is some unemployed obese slob.
truth is, the vast majority of food stamp recipients work shitty minimum wage jobs. the single largest segment of food stamp recipients is not unemployed people, but WALMART EMPLOYEES. also, children make up an enormous segment of people on food assistance.
you are a fvcking idiot[/QUOTE]
Children cannot get food stamps, their parents have to get it.
Please show the resource you used for the Wal-Mart reference.
No, not all food stamp recipients are bums, but many are.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Children cannot get food stamps, their parents have to get it.
Please show the resource you used for the Wal-Mart reference.
No, not all food stamp recipients are bums, but many are.[/QUOTE]
Its well documented that walmart encourages their employees to get on public assistance, right down to corporate memos in the break room.
Also, I was on food stamps once. As a graduate student with a wife and small child, it was of invaluable help at that time of my life. Honestly, how old are you? You seem to have a very sheltered worldview and limited life experience.
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Feeding hungry people. What an asshole.
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[QUOTE=boozehound]Its well documented that walmart encourages their employees to get on public assistance, right down to corporate memos in the break room.
Also, I was on food stamps once. As a graduate student with a wife and small child, it was of invaluable help at that time of my life. Honestly, how old are you? You seem to have a very sheltered worldview and limited life experience.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he said, though. I'm 22.
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would you rather live in a country that has welfare and social programs or a country that has slum villages with huge populations? I love the belief that if you take away welfare poor people will magically disappear or they will magically find work.
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[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]would you rather live in a country that has welfare and social programs or a country that has slum villages with huge populations? I love the belief that if you take away welfare poor people will magically disappear or they will magically find work.[/QUOTE]
LOL, churches and private charities would cover the loss of welfare.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]LOL, churches and private charities would cover the lost of welfare.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]That's not what he said, though. I'm 22.[/QUOTE]
well, if you want the numbers, just type how many walmart employees receive foodstamps into google. and you will find that walmart employees are the largest group on healthcare assistance and foodstamps in every state with available data.
So, we let these companies operate by paying their employees so little that they all qualify for federal assistance (effectively subsidizing walmarts labor costs) and you have the audacity to call those on assistance the leeches?
SMFH at you. Still planning on staying on your parent's health insurance until age 26 while lambasting the affordable care act? Typical republican hypocrite. The reddest states have the highest federal $ coming back to them and the largest % of citizens on public assistance. Now, the curb federal spending governors of those states are scared shitless that the fiscal cliff will cause them to lose billions in funding. what kind of funding? oh yeah, federal funding.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]LOL, churches and private charities would cover the lost of welfare.[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure you've seen studies and statistics that show churches hand out all of this money to feed the hungry. There's nothing funny about your ignorance. Just admit that you don't care about the less fortunate. Lot's of people are callous, don't worry, you aren't alone.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]LOL, churches and private charities would cover the loss of welfare.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: ahh the mind of a child. So full of wonder and hope.
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[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]:oldlol: ahh the mind of a child. So full of wonder and hope.[/QUOTE]
Instead of having people choose to give to the poor, Democrats think they should force them too. The mind of a child, hopes that that can be sustained.
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[QUOTE=Math2]Instead of having people choose to give to the poor, Democrats think they should force them too. The mind of a child, hopes that that can be sustained.[/QUOTE]
Republicans believe in "forcing people to give to other" as well.
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[QUOTE=boozehound][B]Its well documented that walmart encourages their employees to get on public assistance, right down to corporate memos in the break room. [/B]
Also, I was on food stamps once. As a graduate student with a wife and small child, it was of invaluable help at that time of my life. Honestly, how old are you? You seem to have a very sheltered worldview and limited life experience.[/QUOTE]
If by "well documented" you mean "made up by some union person or anti-corporate dickhole with an agenda", I'll believe it. Source this with a photo of a corporate memo in a break room saying this. Eight years I've spent in and out of many different Walmart stores and such a foolish thing has NEVER been on a break room wall in the dozens of stores I've spent time in.
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[QUOTE=Derka]If by "well documented" you mean "made up by some union person or anti-corporate dickhole with an agenda", I'll believe it. Source this with a photo of a corporate memo in a break room saying this. Eight years I've spent in and out of many different Walmart stores and such a foolish thing has NEVER been on a break room wall in the dozens of stores I've spent time in.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/"]Politifact take on this[/URL]
I didn't see anything about corporate memo's encouraging this and didn't bother to dig for it.
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[QUOTE=Math2]Instead of having people choose to give to the poor, Democrats think they should force them too. The mind of a child, hopes that that can be sustained.[/QUOTE]
On sustainability it shocks me that any American can make a point about what can be sustained. The entire American economy is built on unsustainable consumption.
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[QUOTE=IcanzIIravor][URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/"]Politifact take on this[/URL]
I didn't see anything about corporate memo's encouraging this and didn't bother to dig for it.[/QUOTE]
That part sounds like complete shit to me.
Walmart's no angel, but they're certainly not the devil that organized labor and the media like to make them out to be. Labor's interest in Walmart has exactly squat to do with helping associates and everything to do with one thing only: 1.4 million people in the US forking up union dues; people who are already underpaid and won't be guaranteed any substantial pay raise due to any union effort.
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[QUOTE=MMM]On sustainability it shocks me that any American can make a point about what can be sustained. The entire American economy is built on unsustainable consumption.[/QUOTE]
this guy right here.... i like this guy
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[QUOTE=SCdac]Regardless of any kind of blame game or fault, this statistic is troubling...
1970's: 1 out of 50 on food stamps
Now: 1 out of 6.5 on food stamps
:([/QUOTE]
So... before "Trickle Down" economics were implemented in the early 80's, everyone was better off?
[IMG]http://bearsharkaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/you-dont-say.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Derka]That part sounds like complete shit to me.
Walmart's no angel, but they're certainly not the devil that organized labor and the media like to make them out to be. Labor's interest in Walmart has exactly squat to do with helping associates and everything to do with one thing only: 1.4 million people in the US forking up union dues; people who are already underpaid and won't be guaranteed any substantial pay raise due to any union effort.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what unions actually do, do you?
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[QUOTE=IcanzIIravor][URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/"]Politifact take on this[/URL]
I didn't see anything about corporate memo's encouraging this and didn't bother to dig for it.[/QUOTE]
the memo may have been an isolated incident (and was from in house management IIRC). Regardless, there is a reason why the largest user of public assistance in every state with data are walmart employees. Biggest money maker in the world, and they are subsidizing their labor costs with govt assistance.
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[QUOTE=Derka]That part sounds like complete shit to me.
Walmart's no angel, but they're certainly not the devil that organized labor and the media like to make them out to be. Labor's interest in Walmart has exactly squat to do with helping associates and everything to do with one thing only: 1.4 million people in the US forking up union dues; people who are already underpaid and won't be guaranteed any substantial pay raise due to any union effort.[/QUOTE]
you say this, but the union workers I know all have very good paychecks and great benefits. Meanwhile, walmart pays it employees substantially less than other similar businesses and there is no denying that its employees are the largest user of federal assistance in every state with data (about 24 IIRC). This isnt about demonizing anyone. Its about the facts behind a labor system that purposefully steers its employees to public assistance (and limits hours, etc) to provide what it wont.
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[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]You don't know what unions actually do, do you?[/QUOTE]
No, because I've been living under a rock for the last 30-odd years and haven't ever read a history book. Please Mr. Condescending Internet Person, tell me what unions do.
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[QUOTE=Derka]No, because I've been living under a rock for the last 30-odd years and haven't ever read a history book. Please Mr. Condescending Internet Person, tell me what unions do.[/QUOTE]
uhm, 40 hour work week, child labor laws, OHSA, minimum wages, pensions, overtime laws are just a few of the things you should thank a union member for.
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[QUOTE=boozehound]you say this, but the union workers I know all have very good paychecks and great benefits. Meanwhile, walmart pays it employees substantially less than other similar businesses and there is no denying that its employees are the largest user of federal assistance in every state with data (about 24 IIRC). This isnt about demonizing anyone. Its about the facts behind a labor system that purposefully steers its employees to public assistance (and limits hours, etc) to provide what it wont.[/QUOTE]
Walmart does not pay substantially less. At all. Source all the studies you want, I work in the industry and its just not true. I've seen the raw unpublished data with my own eyes year after year since I started working in retail. Compared to other big box retailers, wages are about the same. A person leaving Walmart to go do the same job at Target isn't taking a substantial pay raise to do so. Same situation for benefits and medical.
As for the studies Politifact sources, I'd need to see the raw data before I believe I'm not reading data that was intended to fit a pre-determined conclusion. The article itself says that most of the available data for fact-checking comes from less-than-objective sources. There's Facts and then there's "facts".
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[QUOTE=MMM]Republicans believe in "forcing people to give to other" as well.[/QUOTE]
How so.
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[QUOTE=boozehound]uhm, 40 hour work week, child labor laws, OHSA, minimum wages, pensions, overtime laws are just a few of the things you should thank a union member for.[/QUOTE]
Not all of those are perfectly good.
Personally though, the government shouldn't set laws about whether there can be a union or not. They shouldn't limit their rights (Republicans), or strengthen their rights (Democrats). But they shouldn't complain at all when they get fired for striking. In fact, I enjoy it when they do.
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[QUOTE=boozehound]uhm, 40 hour work week, child labor laws, OHSA, minimum wages, pensions, overtime laws are just a few of the things you should thank a union member for.[/QUOTE]
Sarcasm. Seriously.
We're not at the outset of the Industrial Revolution anymore. I say Walmart doesn't need a union and you come at me with child labor and OSHA? There's not a single Walmart associate who can't go to his/her store manager and say "I'm not paid enough to live and this is why I should be getting paid more" and not at the very least have a serious dialogue about the topic. Much like with a union, nothing's guaranteed. But I'll speak for myself over paying someone else to do it for me.
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[QUOTE=Derka]Walmart does not pay substantially less. At all. [/QUOTE]
complete nonsense. wal mart treats the vast majority of their employees like shit, FACT.
you claim walmarts compensation is the same as most other big box retailers? compare walmart compensation with that of costco. costco is the perfect example of how a giant retailer can be successful and profitable while providing their employees with good health care and a good salary.
[url]http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2008/06/wage_against_the_machine.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Nanners]complete nonsense. wal mart treats the vast majority of their employees like shit, FACT.
compare walmart compensation with that of a company like costco. costco is the perfect example of how a giant retailer can be successful and profitable while providing their employees with good health care and a good salary.
[url]http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2008/06/wage_against_the_machine.html[/url][/QUOTE]
:lol First line of the article. "Nearly everyone who's looked at Wal-Mart's practices as an employer—its union busting, sex discrimination, low wages, and minimal benefits—has concluded that it's America's retail bad guy." Obviously no agenda there whatsoever, amirite??
Every one of those things is provably untrue if you've actually worked for the company. But if random internet articles says its true, it must be. After all, people never lie on the internet or manipulate data to further an agenda or just be outrageous ***** in the name of increasing web traffic.
If you're just gonna cite what other people tell you, keep quiet. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Edit: Article's from 2008. Come on now.
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Gonna duck out of this one before you all get mad or something.
lol, studies you found on the internet. And you people believe them. Classic!
Adios.