The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism

The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on the issue of racism

[url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/07/the-daily-show-illustrates-the-cleft-between-black-and-white-americans-on-the-issue-of-racism/[/url]

Basically on a scale of how much racial progress we have made in this country from 0% = fully racist, 100 = full equality

The white people all thought racism wasn't a big deal anymore and that America had made a lot of progression on eliminating racism. The white people tended to rate America a 50 - 75 on that scale.

The black people all thought racism was a major factor in America and that very little progression had been made towards eliminating racism. The numbers given were a high of 12 to a low of negative 25. One girl thought that racism had gotten worse.

On a that scale of 0 - 100 where do you think we are?

I say 60-75%

Racism is a huge issue still. Go to Yahoo and read the comments on most any article. And white people in general are pretty ignorant on this due to white privilege.

[QUOTE=Myth]Racism is a huge issue still. Go to Yahoo and read the comments on most any article. And white people in general are pretty ignorant on this due to white privilege.[/QUOTE]

Ya you will get trolls on the internet, but these are people that probably live in their parents basements. There are also hicks that live in backwater swamps. I dont think these people have that much power to affect the lives of black people.

I will admit to being surprised that the black people in that clip thought that racism was that big of a hindrance in the their daily lives. I would appreciate some examples from peoples lives where they felt their race has held them back or disadvantaged them. Just for educational purposes. Race is such a touchy issue its hard to discuss.

there still is, but minorities tend to over exaggerate and say anything used against them is racism.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Ya you will get trolls on the internet, but these are people that probably live in their parents basements. There are also hicks that live in backwater swamps. I dont think these people have that much power to affect the lives of black people.

I will admit to being surprised that the black people in that clip thought that racism was that big of a hindrance in the their daily lives. I would appreciate some examples from peoples lives where they felt their race has held them back or disadvantaged them. Just for educational purposes. Race is such a touchy issue its hard to discuss.[/QUOTE]

Hicks that live in backwater swamps are still in America.

In only three months of being with a black girl, I have discovered that half of my family are covert racists. Tons of assumptions and ignorance that I did not know existed in my own family. Again, that is in 3 months with a family that I have always known to be accepting (well, I knew my dad was a bit prejudice already, but was surprised by the reactions of others in my family).

[QUOTE=riseagainst]there still is, but minorities tend to over exaggerate and say anything used against them is racism.[/QUOTE]

Nice broad generalization there, I'm sure comments like that have no affect on racism in our society ;)

[QUOTE=riseagainst]there still is, but minorities tend to over exaggerate and say anything used against them is racism.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Myth]Racism is a huge issue still. Go to Yahoo and read the comments on most any article. And white people in general are pretty ignorant on this due to white privilege.[/QUOTE]

Just for my personal educational purposes and because I want to alleviate my ignorance on this issue could you guys give me your opinions on that scale of where you feel we are in America today?

0 being completely racist and almost impossible to succeed without being white. (what america was for a long time)

100 being completely equal and race not being a factor at all in whether you succeed or fail.

I think we are somewhere in the rage of 60-75. There is still some disadvantages but primarily you are judged on your capabilities today.

one of them said it worse? worse than WHEN, exactly?

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[QUOTE=Myth]Hicks that live in backwater swamps are still in America.

In only three months of being with a black girl, I have discovered that half of my family are covert racists. Tons of assumptions and ignorance that I did not know existed in my own family. Again, that is in 3 months with a family that I have always known to be accepting (well, I knew my dad was a bit prejudice already, but was surprised by the reactions of others in my family).[/QUOTE]
Do people in your family your age or younger have a problem with it? Some of this imo is a generational problem and racism will become less and less of a problem as older people die off.

[QUOTE=gigantes]one of them said it worse? worse than WHEN, exactly?

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[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Ya you will get trolls on the internet, but these are people that probably live in their parents basements. There are also hicks that live in backwater swamps. I dont think these people have that much power to affect the lives of black people.

I will admit to being surprised that the black people in that clip thought that racism was that big of a hindrance in the their daily lives. I would appreciate some examples from peoples lives where they felt their race has held them back or disadvantaged them. Just for educational purposes. Race is such a touchy issue its hard to discuss.[/QUOTE]


Here I'll name a few real quick..

Went down south street recently... Me and My wife went to eat (My wife is Italian).. We eat in the restaurant and then we get ready to leave.. We both go to the bathroom I come out before her so I wait... She comes out fuming mad.. She says this white lady in the bathroom asked if she was "OK" and did she need help.. Apparently the white lady assumed the black guy (me) waiting outside the bathroom for her was causing her problems..

Me and & the wife go downtown... I wanted to hit the apple store real quick.. We find a parking spot, but there is this white lady standing in it ..... She says we cannot park there because her husband is coming and she is saving it for him.. I tell her "you cant save a spot like that" and I ask her to move.. She pitches a fit and refuses to move.. after a minute of arguing, I just start back into the spot and telling her move... She gets out of the way, but she is furious.. We get the spot and walk to the store.. She follows behind us giving threats about keying my wife's car (Which had my woman ready to fight) and threats about me going to jail because her husband is a cop (I think she was lying) We ignore her and go in the store (there is crowd growing at this point because she is yelling)..We come out of the store and this lady has summoned a cop. she tells the cop to arrest me because I called her a racial slur :oldlol: ... the people who are standing around disagree with her.. I call her crazy.. the cop gets mad at [B]ME[/B] and threatens to take me in (while the lady is yelling at me over his shoulder..he pretends he cannot hear her). At that point I realize this is a ridiculous situation we just get in the car and roll out before the cop takes any real action.. the lady's husband just shows up when we were pulling out and asks "Hey honey, what the problem?" :roll: I felt bad for the guy because his wife was such a lying sh*tstarter.

I can think of a alot more, most are mundane (getting pulled over by the cops for driving a nice car and being told I got pulled over because my license plate was crooked :rolleyes: )...

The funny thing is that I know white people know deep down inside that there is still alot of racism in America.. My brother in law is a cop (I know he knows).. His cop friend trained their big ass dog to attack black people..

there are people on my wife's side of the family who obviously have a problem with black people in general.. They dont say too much though because I have a good relationship with her father and her mother...

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Just for my personal educational purposes and because I want to alleviate my ignorance on this issue could you guys give me your opinions on that scale of where you feel we are in America today?

0 being completely racist and almost impossible to succeed without being white. (what america was for a long time)

100 being completely equal and race not being a factor at all in whether you succeed or fail.

I think we are somewhere in the rage of 60-75. There is still some disadvantages but primarily you are judged on your capabilities today.[/QUOTE]

Just to be clear, your scale is different from the video. I'd say about 50 if we are talking about "success" as you mentioned, and most of what keeps that down is based on a culture that was set up by white people generations ago that permeates through the educational system today, including differing expectations of black youth (I'm not just talking about being treated differently in the classroom, but I'm including parents who don't push education as much because what they were raised with in a white dominated society). Once it gets to the job interview if you have succeeded in academics, then I'd agree that you are judged on your capabilities in most situations.

However, the video asks for a scale of eliminating racism, which I would put that answer down to about 20-25. There are daily reminders of racial issues if you are not a white person blindly walking in a mostly white world.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Do people in your family your age or younger have a problem with it? Some of this imo is a generational problem and racism will become less and less of a problem as older people die off.[/QUOTE]

No, everybody my age (29) and younger seems fine with it. However, I do notice that on my Facebook pics of me and her, I get less likes from cousins my age than I did when I was with another white person. I would say that tons of it is a generational problem, but it hasn't skipped my generation completely. I do think it will be less and less of a problem, just like it has become less and less of a problem over the decades already.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan][B]I tend to think the internet gives a more extreme impression of what actually exists in rl in almost all circumstances.[/B] racism/sexual preferences/etc. The sample online is skewed is what I meant. Eg. Racists tended to loudly celebrate the death of trayvon there by making society overall seem more racist than it actually is. (full disclosure I thought not guilty was the correct verdict, but I think zim is a coward and didn't think trayvon had done anything in his life that deserved to die for.)[/QUOTE]


Do you think they are just joking or do you think the internet simply gives them the freedom to say things they wouldnt dare say in public?

[QUOTE=gigantes]one of them said it worse? worse than WHEN, exactly?

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[QUOTE=Rasheed1]
The funny thing is that I know white people know deep down inside that there is still alot of racism in America..

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I think most know there is a problem of racism in America, but most don't understand how much racism still exists. Most of it has been pushed to a covert level and includes tons of bias and being oblivious rather than straight up racists.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Do you think they are just joking or do you think the internet simply gives them the freedom to say things they wouldnt dare say in public?[/QUOTE]

If you read the comments on Yahoo, the ones that get most of the attention seem pretty genuine in their racism and ignorance. Homosexual topics draw even more comments. You will see how many will talk about the "Gay agenda" and sarcastic comments about coming out as straight to belittle the articles. I point out this as a further example of people seeming to be genuine in lots of the posts on that site.

[QUOTE=Myth]I think most know there is a problem of racism in America, but most don't understand how much racism still exists. Most of it has been pushed to a covert level and includes tons of bias and being oblivious rather than straight up racists.[/QUOTE]

I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that I almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..

@Mavsfan

Have you seen this video?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg[/url]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of a couple months ago when I was walking behind a couple of guys holding hands. They passed a lady coming out of her house and after she was no longer in their view, she gave them this glare of disgust. The couple had no idea she reacted that way. I was tempted to call her out, but I didn't want to ruin the day (or that moment) for the couple.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]@Mavsfan

Have you seen this video?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg[/url][/QUOTE]

I love that show. Only show that moves me to tears.

Old and long, but relevant: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeK759FF84s[/url]

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]I tend to think the internet gives a more extreme impression of what actually exists in rl in almost all circumstances. racism/sexual preferences/etc. The sample online is skewed is what I meant. Eg. Racists tended to loudly celebrate the death of trayvon there by making society overall seem more racist than it actually is.[/QUOTE]
hey! it's a well-known phenomenon. but by the same token, it does seem to show what happens when people are allowed to talk and act in a more 'real' way. they didn't really need the internet when it comes down to it... that's just the specific method we're privy to getting their 'real' thoughts. meaning it could also be like talking to someone who's had a few, or overhearing two people who think they're speaking in privacy.

but on the net, in this case, those people definitely seemed to feel safety in their numbers.

point is, it does raise the question for me of what happens when peoples' restraints are lessened. all kinds of mildly difficult and stressful situations tend to lead to that, with the actions that we see all around us and read in the news. in short, where there's smoke, there's fire.

Racism is still just as prevalent. Its just more of an undertone. More undercover. More stereotyping. You wont hear very many whites calling blacks the "N" word, but they will view them as a criminal or lesser than them until proven wrong

______ ism is alive and well everywhere I been....

- I lived in Japan and saw many signs " No Americans/Foreigners " allowed

- I got slapped in a grocery store in Hiroshima ( for being American I guess)

- Taiwan I almost got beat to death for making out with a Taiwanese chick in a Bar ( I guess it had a few Chinese Mafia cats who liked her)

- as a kid riding home on our bikes after ballin...occasionally getting called N____(hard R's)....( shit like that F's with kids anyway you look at it)

- I would say the world is F'ed up beyond recognition....just try and maintain :confusedshrug:

To the lady who said racism was worse today...I say what's the worst racist thing that happened to her? She got called the N word? Back in the day, her ancestors would vote for that option 10 times out of 10.

I had a friend one time who told me blacks can't look forward to a racist free America until they get over a racist filled past. Maybe there was some truth to that. [COLOR="White"]He was black, so don't even jump on me[/COLOR]

Well racism does exist but so do other forms of discriminations. The problem is there cant be any honest discussion on the subject and most white people prefer to ignore the elephant in the room. Instead there is a PC world with laws set to solve racism but neither fix the issue.

I can find all sorts of daily situations where I think I have been discriminated against. I had a gas store owner lcok the doors on me and ask me to return the stolen goods although i didnt have anything. I had a cop ask to search my bag and made a comment like oh you just have books in there. I have a ton more. If i was black i would have attributed it to racism.

[QUOTE=gigantes]hey! it's a well-known phenomenon. but by the same token, it does seem to show what happens when people are allowed to talk and act in a more 'real' way. they didn't really need the internet when it comes down to it... that's just the specific method we're privy to getting their 'real' thoughts. meaning it could also be like talking to someone who's had a few, or [B]overhearing two people who think they're speaking in privacy.[/B][/quote]

My moments come through my wife.. She tells me that she can go to a store by herself and the white people in the store will be so nice and friendly to her...but if she ever comes back to that store with me? they never speak to her again..

Her mom's boyfriend is a white guy who I get along with pretty well, but he has the habit of always asking black white questions..

[I]"How come black people get to say this, and white's dont"[/I]

those types of questions.. It doesnt really bother me, just lets me get an idea of how much white people think about these issues.. Its seems like they think about [B]MORE [/B]than black people

When you hang around black people, they dont discuss white people so much as they co sign each other's experiences..

[I]"you know how racist they are over that side of town"

"Girl, you know I know"[/I]


My wife tells me often about people at work or in public who will say racist things to her (if Im not around) and not realize that she is offended.. they they think they are speaking to someone who feels the same way.

I work in the a diverse setting and my co workers love me, so I can bring her around my functions and have her pictures up..

But she works in a bank with mostly white people so she doesnt put pictures up and I dont go to her work functions.. Only a select few of her co-workers know Im black because we are scared that it would effect her job if the wrong people found out..

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that I almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..[/QUOTE]
Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Here I'll name a few real quick..

Went down south street recently... Me and My wife went to eat (My wife is Italian).. We eat in the restaurant and then we get ready to leave.. We both go to the bathroom I come out before her so I wait... She comes out fuming mad.. She says this white lady in the bathroom asked if she was "OK" and did she need help.. Apparently the white lady assumed the black guy (me) waiting outside the bathroom for her was causing her problems..

Me and & the wife go downtown... I wanted to hit the apple store real quick.. We find a parking spot, but there is this white lady standing in it ..... She says we cannot park there because her husband is coming and she is saving it for him.. I tell her "you cant save a spot like that" and I ask her to move.. She pitches a fit and refuses to move.. after a minute of arguing, I just start back into the spot and telling her move... She gets out of the way, but she is furious.. We get the spot and walk to the store.. She follows behind us giving threats about keying my wife's car (Which had my woman ready to fight) and threats about me going to jail because her husband is a cop (I think she was lying) We ignore her and go in the store (there is crowd growing at this point because she is yelling)..We come out of the store and this lady has summoned a cop. she tells the cop to arrest me because I called her a racial slur :oldlol: ... the people who are standing around disagree with her.. I call her crazy.. the cop gets mad at [B]ME[/B] and threatens to take me in (while the lady is yelling at me over his shoulder..he pretends he cannot hear her). At that point I realize this is a ridiculous situation we just get in the car and roll out before the cop takes any real action.. the lady's husband just shows up when we were pulling out and asks "Hey honey, what the problem?" :roll: I felt bad for the guy because his wife was such a lying sh*tstarter.

I can think of a alot more, most are mundane (getting pulled over by the cops for driving a nice car and being told I got pulled over because my license plate was crooked :rolleyes: )..[/QUOTE]

The first one is probably racism, but with very insignificant repercussions. Essentially your wife getting upset.

Your second story is definitely not about racism. It's about you being a dick and a woman getting rightfully mad. Since when can't you save a parking space for someone? She can occupy any parking space she wants, whether she's using it for herself or saving it for someone else. Forcefully driving into an occupied space is not only a dick move but a potentially illegal one. If that were me, I'd wait until your car made contact with my body and then press charges for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Yep, a vehicle and concrete can both be used as deadly weapons.

I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]______ ism is alive and well everywhere I been....

- I lived in Japan and saw many signs " No Americans/Foreigners " allowed

- I got slapped in a grocery store in Hiroshima ( for being American I guess)

- Taiwan I almost got beat to death for making out with a Taiwanese chick in a Bar ( I guess it had a few Chinese Mafia cats who liked her)

- as a kid riding home on our bikes after ballin...occasionally getting called N____(hard R's)....( shit like that F's with kids anyway you look at it)

I would say the world is F'ed up beyond recognition....just try and maintain :confusedshrug[/QUOTE]

This. With all the messed up sh*t you can see in the news or on some websites that show you executions or stuff like that, you basically have to realize that we're more or less animals that (in our wealth western world) learned to behave more sophisticated as long as it's for personal gain. Without our modern standard of living keeping us calm, it's total madness all over again.

Most people won't admit it, but racism is a natural reaction. It's the first thing that comes to mind for many people. There's something I'm not used to? Must be dangerous. Our brains really aren't built for making much sense. So I'd say you have to force a lot of people into behaving in the "right" way, because they won't figure it out on their own. Political correctness is a huge load of bs.
Should someone be ashamed if he's disgusted by another skin color/sexuality/whatever? That's not the problem, it's natural. I think if you can accept this, it's easier to reflect and notice that this feeling is your own problem, so you can leave other people the f*ck alone. That's why I think it's important to not be politically correct. If someone is racist, he should be open about it so others can explain to him why it doesn't make sense.

I'm friends with an older guy that had a black mom and a white dad. You probably wouldn't be able to tell by looking at him, though. Every now and then we'll shoot the breeze on personal stuff, and he was telling me how he always [i]hated[/i] it how whenever the kids would go out to the park with their mom, the other parents just "[i]assumed[/i] that she was the maid taking the kids out to the park." I could tell that shit really hurt him, too. He was getting all misty eyed telling me the story.

Times have changed a lot since then, but it wasn't really that long ago.

But even to this day, he gets to hear what some white people think about black people. They don't realize he had a black mom and so they feel it's completely okay to be racist towards blacks around him.

My brother is dating a black girl. She's a cool chick. Smart, dresses classy, good sense of humor, etc. They went out to the beach on the West coast in Washington state. My bro had picked out a really nice restaurant to celebrate her birthday. The place was busy, so they waited for awhile after being seated by the hostess. The waitress completely snubbed them and they were left waiting for an hour. They had to request the hostess bring their soup. Eventually they were fed up and left.

Was the waitress being racist? I have a hard time believing she just [i]completely[/i] "forgot" about someone for an hour.

All I know is I've never been snubbed like that at a restaurant. And I know I've looked pretty suspect at times.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.[/QUOTE]
1st world issues, this so called racism in USA is just subtle and not really violent or serious. It's obvious black people here haven't been anywhere else. Try living in Russia and encountering their skinhead gangs on the street that will jump you without giving a shit and beat the shit outta you or stab you. And they do that to not only black people but to anyone who isn't Russian. Rest of the world is much more dangerous and aggressive with their racism, but oh God forbid you are profiled or your feelings are hurt it's the worst thing ever. You guys have no idea how much better America is when it comes to racism compared to most of the world. But people will find anything to bitch about these days, no matter how minor.

[QUOTE=ALBballer]Well racism does exist but so do other forms of discriminations. The problem is there cant be any honest discussion on the subject and most white people prefer to ignore the elephant in the room. Instead there is a PC world with laws set to solve racism but neither fix the issue.

I can find all sorts of daily situations where I think I have been discriminated against. I had a gas store owner lcok the doors on me and ask me to return the stolen goods although i didnt have anything. I had a cop ask to search my bag and made a comment like oh you just have books in there. I have a ton more. If i was black i would have attributed it to racism.[/QUOTE]

What do you think you were discriminated against for?

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...[/QUOTE]

I would say this probably explains [I]some[/I] parts of it. Not to dismiss her, but in the same way a lot of feminists see and explain every social interaction through the lens of patriarchy, some black (or other racial minority groups) people will do the same with racism.

[QUOTE=Graviton]1st world issues, this so called racism in USA is just subtle and not really violent or serious. It's obvious black people here haven't been anywhere else. Try living in Russia and encountering their skinhead gangs on the street that will jump you without giving a shit and beat the shit outta you or stab you. And they do that to not only black people but to anyone who isn't Russian. Rest of the world is much more dangerous and aggressive with their racism, but oh God forbid you are profiled or your feelings are hurt it's the worst thing ever. You guys have no idea how much better America is when it comes to racism compared to most of the world. But people will find anything to bitch about these days, no matter how minor.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree.

If people think racism against blacks in the U.S. today is a 5 out of 10, then it's easily a 15 out of 10 in the rest of the world. With actions too, not just words that get panties in a bunch.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I completely agree.

If people think racism against blacks in the U.S. today is a 5 out of 10, then it's easily a 15 out of 10 in the rest of the world. With actions too, not just words that get panties in a bunch.[/QUOTE]
If they feel it's that bad they can always move somewhere else, try living in nations with no laws to protect you from actual violent racists.

today's 'racism' it is more of just 'classism' where there might be discrimination based upon what whites or others think someone's background is and not because people think there is something inherently wrong or different with any human race, where I do very much think that was the case during the slave days, back then I think many whites (as well as asians and other races) literally thought blacks were inferior human beings.

If certain white people are scared of blacks or won't hire a black employee over a white or just treat blacks differently in general it is because they are basing it off the odds that you are from a poor neighborhood, were around drug dealers, etc. The moment white people see a black person act 'white' so to speak, they are not threatened in the least. Not the white people I know anyway.

Hip Hop culture isn't doing the black community any favors with how blacks are perceived by whites either...

Anyway, today it is just all based around money now, and it the center of it is the fact that whites currently hold more money than blacks and whites will continue to pass their wealth down to their children not because they are white but because they are family. Black families need to create their own wealth, it might be harder for blacks to create wealth than whites but life isn't fair.

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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...[/QUOTE]

Even if a specific look wasn't due to a race issue, the fact that people still question if that is why they are getting a look shows that there is a race issue. Simply questioning how you are perceived based on race shows that racism still exists.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.[/QUOTE]

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