If all adults consent to the marriage then why not?
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If all adults consent to the marriage then why not?
:coleman:
Taxes, benefits, etc...
[QUOTE=plowking]Taxes, benefits, etc...[/QUOTE]
Eh I don't buy it. I think it has more to do with religion.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Eh I don't buy it. I think it has more to do with religion.[/QUOTE]
I think the big reason for gay marriage taking so long was for those reasons honestly. As much as politicians want to make out like good god fearing folk, I don't think it matters nearly as much as what it all comes down to; money.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]If all adults consent to the marriage then why not?
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You're thinking of new fangled post-womens lib, polyamarous relationships. Old School polygamous relationships often didn't involve much consent.
In the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs"]Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints[/URL], girls who were still children were married off to much older men and they didn't get much say in the matter.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]You're thinking of new fangled post-womens lib, polyamarous relationships. Old School polygamous relationships often didn't involve much consent.
In the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs"]Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints[/URL], girls who were still children were married off to much older men and they didn't get much say in the matter.[/QUOTE]
Well when I speak of marriage I'm not referring to a family giving away their 13 year old to the highest bidder either which is common in the Middle East. So ofc I'm using some modern interpretation of polygamy that involves consent from all parties because without consent there is no marriage to begin with.
Still I can't think of any good reasons why polygamy shouldn't be allowed. I think in terms of property rights it could be an issue or say child care. If Man has a kids with Woman 1, Woman 2 and Woman 3, is woman 2 responsible to take care of woman 1's child. And other law issues.
Still these issues could be solved.
[QUOTE=plowking]I think the big reason for gay marriage taking so long was for those reasons honestly. As much as politicians want to make out like good god fearing folk, I don't think it matters nearly as much as what it all comes down to; money.[/QUOTE]
Eh tax breaks depend in the States. For, Estate and Gift taxation it is a bigger issue. For individual, there could be a marriage penalty (meaning if both people filed as individuals then they would pay less tax) depending on the situation.
The primary reason it is not allowed is due to perception towards homosexuality and religion which could be intertwined.
There is no reason why same-sex marriages shouldn't be allowed.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Well when I speak of marriage I'm not referring to a family giving away their 13 year old to the highest bidder either which is common in the Middle East. So ofc I'm using some modern interpretation of polygamy that involves consent from all parties because without consent there is no marriage to begin with.
Still I can't think of any good reasons why polygamy shouldn't be allowed. I think in terms of property rights it could be an issue or say child care. If Man has a kids with Woman 1, Woman 2 and Woman 3, is woman 2 responsible to take care of woman 1's child. And other law issues.
Still these issues could be solved.[/QUOTE]
Well that's the reason's the laws are on the books and no politician is going to argue for overturning them.
Is there any reason [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States"]blue laws[/URL] still exist?
Because polygamist societies are weaker thus should be prevented.
Should a woman be allowed multiple husbands?
[QUOTE=G-train]Should a woman be allowed multiple husbands?[/QUOTE]
Sure.
[QUOTE=G-train]Should a woman be allowed multiple husbands?[/QUOTE]
That would fall under polygamy.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Well that's the reason's the laws are on the books and no politician is going to argue for overturning them.
Is there any reason [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States"]blue laws[/URL] still exist?[/QUOTE]
So you agree that polygamy is illegal due to religious reasons. Are you for or against it?
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Eh I don't buy it. I think it has more to do with religion.[/QUOTE]
obvious agenda is obvious.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Sure.[/QUOTE]
You aren't operating in the real world.
[QUOTE=Maniak]obvious agenda is obvious.[/QUOTE]
I would like to hear some practical reasons why polygamy should remain illegal.
[QUOTE=ace23]That would fall under polygamy.[/QUOTE]
Of course, but it would be incredibly rare.
Polygamy would only exist for men to fulfill selfish desires.
It would be detrimental to society.
[QUOTE=G-train]You aren't operating in the real world.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm just stating it should be allowed legally. Whether it will practiced as much as Men with multiple wives is another matter.
[QUOTE=Maniak]obvious agenda is obvious.[/QUOTE]
This too btw
[QUOTE=G-train]Of course, but it would be incredibly rare.
Polygamy would only exist for men to fulfill selfish desires.
It would be detrimental to society.[/QUOTE]
Why is it detrimental?
[QUOTE=ALBballer]I would like to hear some practical reasons why polygamy should remain illegal.[/QUOTE]
no you wouldnt. you just want to bash religion.
[QUOTE=Maniak]no you wouldnt. you just want to bash religion.[/QUOTE]
Practical wasn't the right word. Anyways this is not a religion bashing thread. I would like to hear some non-religious reasons why polygamy should remain illegal.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]So you agree that polygamy is illegal due to religious reasons. Are you for or against it?[/QUOTE]
I'm against just because the divorce cases would be nightmares.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Why is it detrimental?[/QUOTE]
Think it through. Use you mind to imagine this in day to day life.
Obvious will be obvious.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]I'm against just because the divorce cases would be nightmares.[/QUOTE]
Is there any proof that polygamous relationships result in higher % of divorce than single partner marriages? Regardless assuming your premise is true I don't think that is a good enough reason to not allow it.
[QUOTE=G-train]Think it through. Use you mind to imagine this in day to day life.
Obvious will be obvious.[/QUOTE]
Ok i'm convinced.
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[QUOTE=ALBballer]Is there any proof that polygamous relationships result in higher % of divorce than single partner marriages? Regardless assuming your premise is true I don't think that is a good enough reason to not allow it.[/QUOTE]
He's not talking about the rate of divorce.
[QUOTE=ace23]He's not talking about the rate of divorce.[/QUOTE]
You're right. It's late.
In that case, leave the divorce cases to the lawyers.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]Ok i'm convinced.
:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Well it's hard to explain to you because by even considering this viable requires a limited intellect.
Plus it's obvious that you haven't even got one wife or you wouldn't have posed the question either.
[QUOTE=G-train]Well it's hard to explain to you because by even considering this viable requires a limited intellect.
Plus it's obvious that you haven't even got one wife or you wouldn't have posed the question either.[/QUOTE]
instead of resorting to ad-hominems, get to the ****ing point.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=ALBballer]If all adults consent to the marriage then why not?
:coleman:[/QUOTE]
It should be legal. Consenting adults should be able to choose how they live.
[QUOTE=G-train]Should a woman be allowed multiple husbands?[/QUOTE]
If every man in that relationship consents to it, who are we to deny them.
[QUOTE=ALBballer]instead of resorting to ad-hominems, get to the ****ing point.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I agree here, I dont see the obvious problems with legalizing polygamy. Please explain it to us.
I think people like G-train are making the assumption it will become the standard.
This imo is wrong. I haven't had a single relationship where I would have been comfortable inviting another male into, nor the girl with inviting another female. imo Polygamy would be extremely rare, just like it is in cultures that allow it.
Some islamic countries still allow polygamy. Only the 1 male multiply female version. Only the uber rich men of society have more than 1 wife. most men in these society are forced to settle for one woman.
And this is the slippery slope that the h0m0s have led us to with their unholy matrimony
[QUOTE=MadeFromDust]And this is the slippery slope that the h0m0s have led us to with their unholy matrimony[/QUOTE]
Why does it hurt you to let gay people get married? you arent gay, they arent making gay marriage mandatory.
Why does it hurt you to allow people get in polygamous relationships? Personally I think its stupid, and jealousy will wreck it for 99.9% of people. But why does it affect you? and why do you care if other people ruin their lives?
People need to get out of other peoples businesses.
Lol it ain't stopping anybody.
I know five dudes from Somalia who got 2 wives a piece and even the women see themselves as sisters.
Play on playa :rockon:
Polygamy is an excellent arrangement. On one hand, you have the rightful male leadership and can divy up the division of labor according to the wives' ages.
The older wife could be the mother hen; be responsible for bossing the younger wife around, and be the smarter, strong secondary income bringing, intellectual, seasoned lady; and the younger wife could be the energetic social connector bubbly personality type with the tight ass you can bounce a quarter off who would do more of the physical stuff for the kids. Fuarking hell I be so jealous of King Solomon and Montezuma so many times. You'd be surprised at how many women would be willing to share a man if he was cool enough. I thought they'd be mad until I deliberately pondered the question out loud... it can work with the right conditions. I mean hell normal monogamous marriage fails half to 3/4 of the time how often would polygamy steer course to all aboard the failboat?
They'd form a special bond too like a mentor-apprentice type deal. Have huge families Mormon style.
Had it not been at the detriment of other hardworking productive men then I'd be all for it. But unfortunately I can't turn my back on my brothers so I'mma have to agree with mavssuperfan and say yeah bro each dude gotta have one lady to sexually release and keep society spinnin otherwise we gonna have mad young poor schlubs jihading around.
Who knows? At the rise of the Metrosexual, homosexual, eunuch, and Japanese herbivore types and increasing amount of daughters; our society may resemble a Polygamous one. Good times ahead for those who have the willpower!
PS -
A wife having multiple husbands is PolyANDRY. It is seen in nature with certain birds. I'll find a link to a situation where there was a woman with a bald headed bearded guy she fukks and an older skinnier sentimental weaker guy who does all the chores and stuff.. Really fukked up but hey so is life.
Aren't there already certain religious groups settled in the US that have a polygamy based society?
I imagine to them, their polygamous marriage is official, and they just don't care about the tax benefits etc...
I would agree with most other posters here, it's illegal due to a mix of religious beliefs and certain people not wanting to pay taxes / benefits towards polygamous couples.
There may be some negative attitude towards having a one man with multiple women or vice versa but I don't think there have been enough studies either way to confirm or contradict that effect on raising a child in that type of environment. Sure I'd guess it would probably be weird since I'd imagine a man having multiple women partners would also be relatively rich and the power dynamic of said relationship would be heavily in favor of the guy. It would also be strange to see what kind of relationship a kid were to have with the other women in the house who are not his mother.
I did meet a guy from Africa at my job one time who said his uncle had 3 or 4 wives and multiple kids from them. With all the history of polygamy in the middle east and other parts of the world, there's got to be some university study somewhere documenting this.
Government can't handle the amount of p*ssy some guys would get :bowdown:
Wouldn't those same guys be doing the same thing without going through the hassle of marriage?
[QUOTE=InfiniteBaskets]Wouldn't those same guys be doing the same thing without going through the hassle of marriage?[/QUOTE]
They would, or they would just cheat on their wives.
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Polygamy is an excellent arrangement. On one hand, you have the rightful male leadership and can divy up the division of labor according to the wives' ages.
The older wife could be the mother hen; be responsible for bossing the younger wife around, and be the smarter, strong secondary income bringing, intellectual, seasoned lady; and the younger wife could be the energetic social connector bubbly personality type with the tight ass you can bounce a quarter off who would do more of the physical stuff for the kids. Fuarking hell I be so jealous of King Solomon and Montezuma so many times. You'd be surprised at how many women would be willing to share a man if he was cool enough. I thought they'd be mad until I deliberately pondered the question out loud... it can work with the right conditions. I mean hell normal monogamous marriage fails half to 3/4 of the time how often would polygamy steer course to all aboard the failboat?
They'd form a special bond too like a mentor-apprentice type deal. Have huge families Mormon style.
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have you met women before?:lol
I wish what your were say were true though lol
I really see no problem with polygamous marriages. It doesn't hurt anybody. I also think marriage should be removed from state. Make domestic partnerships or something a legal thing, and marriages are separate. That way churches can celebrate however they want.