Wilt Chamberlain scoring highlights 1960-1968

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdmYTdjCXpU[/url]

I should note, these come from such a small sample pool that even if he only shows a move once here, he repeats and/or displays several more moves or variations of the move in Lakers footage despite him scoring less during those years. Because those later Laker years have more coverage. There are several moves of his repertoire that he shows in Laker footage missing from this reel because of the window of time I used and the limited footage from that time. So this isn't 'everything' we are missing some of his less often used moves. But it is a great compilation no doubt of his core/primary moves. (fade aways, turnaround Js, bank shots, finger rolls, reverse Layups, spin moves, transition baskets, tip ins, alley oops etc). Hope you guys enjoy. :cheers:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdmYTdjCXpU[/url]

I should note, these come from such a small sample pool that even if he only shows a move once here, he repeats and/or displays several more moves or variations of the move in Lakers footage despite him scoring less during those years. Because those later Laker years have more coverage. There are several moves of his repertoire that he shows in Laker footage missing from this reel because of the window of time I used and the limited footage from that time. So this isn't 'everything' we are missing some of his less often used moves. But it is a great compilation no doubt of his core/primary moves. (fade aways, turnaround Js, bank shots, finger rolls, reverse Layups, spin moves, transition baskets, tip ins, alley oops etc). Hope you guys enjoy. :cheers:[/QUOTE]
:applause:

Is this ready for sharing?

[QUOTE=fpliii]:applause:

Is this ready for sharing?[/QUOTE]
yeah its public

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]yeah its public[/QUOTE]
Nice, I'll send it out after I've had a chance to watch. Thanks again for your hard work!

Did that guys hand really disappear when Wilt shook it?

sped up and edited footage....lmaooo!! this video further proves shaq, since day 1, was more skilled than wilt ever was. checkout "shaqs gangsta move on michael jordan"..check it out on youtube... also "planet shaq part 4"..check out the moves he puts on..HAKEEM!..shaq has up and unders,spin moves...great footwork...that move on jordan?...id like to see wilt do that by himself in an empty gym...its about skill,not size fools.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqoFTh2lZg[/url]
the REAL unstoppable scorer

That is an Hakeem/Dirk-esque fadeaway at 2:18

[QUOTE=mehyaM24][B]sped up and edited footage....lmaooo!! [/B]this video further proves shaq, since day 1, was more skilled than wilt ever was. checkout "shaqs gangsta move on michael jordan"..check it out on youtube... also "planet shaq part 4"..check out the moves he puts on..HAKEEM!..shaq has up and unders,spin moves...great footwork...that move on jordan?...id like to see wilt do that by himself in an empty gym...its about skill,not size fools.[/QUOTE]
Watch the ball physics.

:facepalm

I'm not a Wilt guy, but that ******ry should be a bannable offense.

[QUOTE=PHILA]That is an Hakeem/Dirk-esque fadeaway at 2:18[/QUOTE]
Do you want to start a thread about this on the PC board? Now that this video is out with so much footage, I think we can get some decent breakdowns.

BTW CavsFTW/PHILA and whoever else, when would you guys say Wilt's prime ended? With the injury in 69-70 (from all accounts he was still in his prime in 68-69, but fitting with Baylor/vBK presented problems)?

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]sped up and edited footage....lmaooo!! this video further proves shaq, since day 1, was more skilled than wilt ever was. checkout "shaqs gangsta move on michael jordan"..check it out on youtube... also "planet shaq part 4"..check out the moves he puts on..HAKEEM!..shaq has up and unders,spin moves...great footwork...that move on jordan?...id like to see wilt do that by himself in an empty gym...its about skill,not size fools.[/QUOTE]

Shaq DID have amazingly underrated footwork.

That said, you are being dumb.

[QUOTE=Bush4Ever]Shaq DID have amazingly underrated footwork.

That said, you are being dumb.[/QUOTE]
Hi Bush.

[QUOTE=fpliii]Hi Bush.[/QUOTE]

Do I know you?

[QUOTE=fpliii]Watch the ball physics.

:facepalm

I'm not a Wilt guy, but that ******ry should be a bannable offense.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol: 5:47. that is NOT natural. keep deluding yourselves though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DxcV3IB9E[/url]
nobody was more skilled than shaq and the footage doesnt lie....

[quote=fpliii]Do you want to start a thread about this on the PC board? Now that this video is out with so much footage, I think we can get some decent breakdowns.[/quote]

No, I believe it's a waste of time. If anything it should be posted in the game footage thread.

[QUOTE=Bush4Ever]Do I know you?[/QUOTE]
Aren't you Bush4Ever from ESPN/Anger?

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]:oldlol: 5:47. that is NOT natural. keep deluding yourselves though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DxcV3IB9E[/url]
nobody was more skilled than shaq and the footage doesnt lie....[/QUOTE]
Shaq's my favorite player all-time, though I'm not making any comparisons here anyway. You have serious problems, all you do is come here to troll this guy's mixes.

Whatever.

[QUOTE=fpliii]Aren't you Bush4Ever from ESPN/Anger?

[/QUOTE]

lol

[QUOTE=Bush4Ever]lol[/QUOTE]
Sorry, long day so far, don't mind me.
[QUOTE=PHILA]No, I believe it's a waste of time. If anything it should be posted in the game footage thread.[/QUOTE]
I think it depends on the title of the thread and what we ask. Though perhaps the footage thread is the best call.

the most dominant ever :applause: :applause:

how does one watch [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUE_0LRxtpU"]this[/URL] and come out thinking wilt was "more dominant" than shaq? :facepalm

[QUOTE=fpliii]Aren't you Bush4Ever from ESPN/Anger?


Shaq's my favorite player all-time, though I'm not making any comparisons here anyway. You have serious problems, all you do is come here to troll this guy's mixes.

Whatever.[/QUOTE]

stop being a ****ing baby. i am simply giving my opinion.

the mix is well done. music is nice. but waaaaay over-edited.

Around 167 baskets shown here, around 1.5% of his non-Laker career. :applause:

[QUOTE=fpliii][B]Do you want to start a thread about this on the PC board?[/B] Now that this video is out with so much footage, I think we can get some decent breakdowns.

BTW CavsFTW/PHILA and whoever else, when would you guys say Wilt's prime ended? With the injury in 69-70 (from all accounts he was still in his prime in 68-69, but fitting with Baylor/vBK presented problems)?[/QUOTE]
Which are you speaking of?

[QUOTE=jongib369]Which are you speaking of?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=64[/url]

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]how does one watch [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUE_0LRxtpU"]this[/URL] and come out thinking wilt was "more dominant" than shaq? :facepalm



stop being a ****ing baby. i am simply giving my opinion.

the mix is well done. music is nice. but waaaaay over-edited.[/QUOTE]
Hello shaqpopcorn34

[QUOTE=Psileas]Around 167 baskets shown here, around 1.5% of his non-Laker career. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the insight Psileas, I've done a similar thing with Baylor (but for his entire career) and figured I had about 2.5% of his entire career (*EDIT* fg's [B]made[/B]) (both college and NBA/NBA playoffs combined) on film :applause:

Btw, did you add up both playoffs and regular season? You have to combine the two, the footage contains clips from both! Also, a few baskets are shown mutliple times from different angles in case you didn't know, so there's probably closer to 160 baskets shown.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Thank you for the insight Psileas, I've done a similar thing with Baylor (but for his entire career) and figured I had about 2.5% of his entire career fg's (both college and NBA/NBA playoffs combined) on film :applause:

Btw, did you add up both playoffs and regular season? You have to combine the two, the footage contains clips from both! Also, a few baskets are shown mutliple times from different angles in case you didn't know, so there's probably closer to 160 baskets shown.[/QUOTE]
160/11263 is around 1.4%, still a good number. :applause:

[QUOTE=fpliii]160/11263 is around 1.4%, still a good number. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Add all star games into the mix too, I forgot a relevant portion of these are ASG clips because All Star Games got a disproportionatly large amount of coverage back then compared to say, reg/season games

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Add all star games into the mix too, I forgot a relevant portion of these are ASG clips because All Star Games got a disproportionatly large amount of coverage back then compared to say, reg/season games[/QUOTE]
Ah okay, 160/11328 then, still ~1.4%. Tremendous work either way.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Add all star games into the mix too, I forgot a relevant portion of these are ASG clips because All Star Games got a disproportionatly large amount of coverage back then compared to say, reg/season games[/QUOTE]

I did actually add his ASG FG's in his pre-69 career total, because I noticed these ASG plays, as well.

[QUOTE]Btw, did you add up both playoffs and regular season? You have to combine the two, the footage contains clips from both! Also, a few baskets are shown mutliple times from different angles in case you didn't know, so there's probably closer to 160 baskets shown.[/QUOTE]

I did add playoffs. Not sure about the double angled plays, although I counted that dunk over the lazy Pistons' #19 once.

[QUOTE=PHILA]That is an Hakeem/Dirk-esque fadeaway at 2:18[/QUOTE]
At the 6:22 point for about ten seconds you see a whole series of the same shot.

Great work as always CavFTW!!! I think the full repertoire is captured here. All we need to experience now is the persistence to the hoop and game continuity.

19 players not named Wilt Chamberlain have scored 60 or more points in NBA history, a combined 30 times.

Wilt Chamberlain scored 60 or more points 32 times. More than anyone else, [I]combined[/I].

:biggums:

That move at 2:58 was nice. :applause:

Bump for Laz

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Bump for Laz[/QUOTE]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.


Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.

In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.

And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]:applause: :applause: :applause:

I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.


Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.

In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.

And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...[/QUOTE]
I will do a 'scoring skills' video at some point, incorporating moves captured on film from his entire career not just what is shown in this video.

There are moves that he did that are missing in the 60-68 window being that it is such a small sample size.

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]:applause: :applause: :applause:

I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.


Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.

In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.

And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...[/QUOTE]

This covered 1.5% that I mentioned, though an impressive percentage for a scorer of Wilt's level, still doesn't do him justice, since we can see that lots of his plays are essentially too short to fully evaluate (e.g, some flashes of plays that only last like 1 second each) and there is a good number of ASG (=basically meaningless) baskets as well (although they still show glimpses of his skill). If Cavs had the luxury (and time) to have a more detailed version of the afore mentioned plays, then this "1.5%" would be more meaningful.
And this would still leave out his other highlights (assists, defense/blocks, even some rebounds), which may be literally at least as many as his baskets.

[QUOTE=Psileas]This covered 1.5% that I mentioned, though an impressive percentage for a scorer of Wilt's level, still doesn't do him justice, since we can see that lots of his plays are essentially too short to fully evaluate (e.g, some flashes of plays that only last like 1 second each) and there is a good number of ASG (=basically meaningless) baskets as well (although they still show glimpses of his skill). If Cavs had the luxury (and time) to have a more detailed version of the afore mentioned plays, then this "1.5%" would be more meaningful.
And this would still leave out his other highlights (assists, defense/blocks, even some rebounds), which may be literally at least as many as his baskets.[/QUOTE]

It's a downright shame that, other than the '62 ASG (and even that is not in it's entirety), that we have no full game footage of even one of his 271 40+ point games.

[QUOTE=fpliii]Do you want to start a thread about this on the PC board? Now that this video is out with so much footage, I think we can get some decent breakdowns.

BTW CavsFTW/PHILA and whoever else, when would you guys say Wilt's prime ended? With the injury in 69-70 (from all accounts he was still in his prime in 68-69, but fitting with Baylor/vBK presented problems)?[/QUOTE]
His prime ended with his knee injury IMO, you are right 68-69 would/should still be it but he had problems in vBK's system. That was the season a writer said he "couldn't" score any more and he put up back to back 60 point games just to show he still could. He was leading the league in scoring in 1970 AGAIN just prior to his knee injury. From there on out due to age, coaching, maybe lateral quickness after the knee repair, also conscious choice on what to focus on and a myriad of whatever other reasons he wasn't the same dominant scorer. I also think after 67 when he 'retired' that fade-away that season he lost some of his touch with it through attrition. But he was still very very dominant, like MVP caliber dominant it just wasn't being reflected with "points per game" anymore. He left the game way earlier than he would have needed too after the ABA lawsuit.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]His prime ended with his knee injury IMO, you are right 68-69 would/should still be it but he had problems in vBK's system. That was the season a writer said he "couldn't" score any more and he put up back to back 60 point games just to show he still could. He was leading the league in scoring in 1970 AGAIN just prior to his knee injury. From there on out due to age, coaching, maybe lateral quickness after the knee repair, also conscious choice on what to focus on and a myriad of whatever other reasons he wasn't the same dominant scorer. I also think after 67 when he 'retired' that fade-away that season he lost some of his touch with it through attrition. But he was still very very dominant, like MVP caliber dominant it just wasn't being reflected with "points per game" anymore. He left the game way earlier than he would have needed too after the ABA lawsuit.[/QUOTE]

What is interesting, is that Chamberlain had arguably the worst season of his career, following the season in which he blew out his knee, in 70-71. And his post-season that year was also arguably the worst of his career (although you could make an argument for 68-69.) His rebounding and FG%'s were exceptionally low for him, in both the regular season, and the playoffs.

Still, he battled a PEAK Kareem in five regular season, and five post-season H2H's, and statistically outplayed him. In the WORST season of his career.

Oh, and here were his numbers that year...

20.7 ppg, 18.2 rpg, 4.3 apg, and on a .545 FG%.