Shouldnt they have done worse without the "GOAt"? Stacked?
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Shouldnt they have done worse without the "GOAt"? Stacked?
Did they get a ring?
What if - and this is just a what if, purely hypothetical question - but what if the greatest player of all time also happened to play for a great team?
They did do worse without the GOAT.
Does it really matter considering the Bulls won 6 championships with him as the leader between 91-98?
Because Pippen is an all time great player which defenses hadn't ever had to really game plan for before this. By the next season other teams had figured it out and the Bulls struggled
[QUOTE=Nuff Said]Did they get a ring?[/QUOTE]
Actually, they were pretty close
they won 72 with him
[QUOTE=livinglegend]Actually, they were pretty close[/QUOTE]
Close =/= winning.
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Close =/= winning.[/QUOTE]
and no they weren't close, they didn't even make the finals :facepalm
[QUOTE=livinglegend]Shouldnt they have done worse without the "GOAt"? Stacked?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=K Xerxes]They did do worse without the GOAT.
Does it really matter considering the Bulls won 6 championships with him as the leader between 91-98?[/QUOTE]
A-A-A-ND....DONE!
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Because Pippen is an all time great player which defenses hadn't ever had to really game plan for before this. By the next season other teams had figured it out and the Bulls struggled[/QUOTE]
But Pippen was a fringe all-star player who was crafted by Jordan, who would amount to nothing without him.
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[QUOTE=moe94]But Pippen was a fringe all-star player who was crafted by Jordan, who would amount to nothing without him.
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I know you're being sarcastic but for those who dont, No, that is not true
[QUOTE=livinglegend]Shouldnt they have done worse without the "GOAt"? Stacked?[/QUOTE]
Yea the Bulls with MJ were UNBEATABLE in the 90's. That 1996 Bulls team went 72-10 GOAT Team.
Is that supposed to hurt MJ? Hell yea they'd spank this heat team. MJ, Pippen, Rodman > LBJ, Wade, Bosh
[QUOTE=moe94]But Pippen was a fringe all-star player who was crafted by Jordan, who would amount to nothing without him.
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Admitting Pippen was a great player - and that the Bulls had great teams in those championship runs - does nothing to delegitimize what Jordan did or how great he was as an individual player.
Bulls were a great team, with or without Jordan.
Why is Jordan/Bulls always on your mind bro?
To answer your thread question, it's because the team still functioned at a high level without their best player, much like the Spurs, the current Bulls and to some extent the Heat. Players like Kukoc, Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong were still on the team with Grant and BJ awarded their first allstar appearances that year, so they had little to no chemistry issues and were able to step up and play well led by Pippen with a very good supporting cast around him.
why did lebronna didnt win any rings without wade?
[QUOTE=BoutPractice]What if - and this is just a what if, purely hypothetical question - but what if the greatest player of all time also happened to play for a great team?[/QUOTE]
This^^^^^^
Why can't the remaining players just get credit for how that season turned out. The Coaches as well.
The fact that they won 55 games before bowing out to the eventual Eastern Conference Champs in seven hard fought games, then they (the Knicks) lost in Seven to the eventual Champs, lends more credibility to the Bulls winning 72 games and being the greatest ever and
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]they won 72 with him[/QUOTE]
Turning a 16 win team into a 32 win team isn't that tough if you're a good player.
Turning a 55 win team into a 72 win team is goddamn unheard of.
Bulls was a great team without jordan, and jordan is still the GOAT
for discussion
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Because Pippen is an all time great player which defenses hadn't ever had to really game plan for before this. By the next season other teams had figured it out and the Bulls struggled[/QUOTE]
Pippen was in the league for a long time already. This wasn't Linsanity. Trust me, teams had a read on him. He gets severely underrated by anyone that isn't a Jordan hater.
[QUOTE=Droid101]Turning a 16 win team into a 32 win team isn't that tough if you're a good player.
[B]Turning a 55 win team into a 72 win team is goddamn unheard of.[/B][/QUOTE]
It's actually NEVER happened :lol
its a well known fact among knowledgeable basketball fanatics that Jordan while being a great player was also carried by a fantastic team that covered up most of his flaws.
He`s still the 4th best player ever so i dont know what OP is trying to tell us:confusedshrug:
highest ppg dropoff in recent history which suited their style of play, from 105 to 101 ppg
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]its a well known fact among knowledgeable basketball fanatics that Jordan while being a great player was also carried by a fantastic team that covered up most of his flaws.
He`s still the 4th best player ever so i dont know what OP is trying to tell us:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
this 55 wins team won 72 with him
72
[QUOTE=Fresh Kid]why did lebronna didnt win any rings without wade?[/QUOTE]
2013 :biggums:
Generally when you have 3 All-Stars and a lot of battle tested players on your team you'll put up a pretty good record. Were it not for that phantom foul call on Pippen in Game 5 of the ECSF against the Knicks, who knows how far the Bulls could've went that year.
Can someone list the roster from that Bulls team and the one from the previous year. And if possible the one from the following year. I'm curious to also see why they were doing bad the following year.
[QUOTE=Droid101]Turning a 16 win team into a 32 win team isn't that tough if you're a good player.
Turning a 55 win team into a 72 win team is goddamn unheard of.[/QUOTE]
Rodman the GOAT.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]Rodman the GOAT.[/QUOTE]
I miss that guy :rockon:
everybody knows Jordan is the 4th best player ever stop trying to put him down OP:facepalm
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]everybody knows Jordan is the 4th best player ever stop trying to put him down OP:facepalm[/QUOTE]
obvious baiting :facepalm
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]obvious baiting :facepalm[/QUOTE]
how come i cant state my opinion to the OP?:biggums:
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]how come i cant state my opinion to the OP?:biggums:[/QUOTE]
because you bring nothing into the conversation but obvious trolling.
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]because you bring nothing into the conversation but obvious trolling.[/QUOTE]
Because i think Wilt,KAreem and Magic are better than him alltime? :biggums:
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]how come i cant state my opinion to the OP?:biggums:[/QUOTE]
because your opinion sucks :confusedshrug:
Who betta than Jordan
But I thought OKC was the most stacked team of all time :cry:
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]Because i think Wilt,KAreem and Magic are better than him alltime? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Yes, because it has nothing to do with OP, and your opinion is retarded. if I were to go into a Heat thread claiming LeBron was a top 50 at best player wouldn't I be trolling?
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]Because i think Wilt,KAreem and Magic are better than him alltime? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Wilt, Kareem sure that is plausible. But Magic? You're straight up trolling dude.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]because your opinion sucks :confusedshrug:
Who betta than Jordan[/QUOTE]
Wilt,Kareem and MAgic??
since they were all Lakers u should be happy with my opinion or do you only care about Kobe??:coleman: