[url]http://news.yahoo.com/budget-busting-u-obesity-costs-094500454.html[/url]
This makes me sick. :facepalm
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[url]http://news.yahoo.com/budget-busting-u-obesity-costs-094500454.html[/url]
This makes me sick. :facepalm
well done america
i bet nick young is proud
i saw recently that mexico is actually the most obese country in the world.
damn america looks like we aren't #1 anymore
Wars cost America 100 billion a year
There are a number of problems on the verge of turning crises domestically and globally but we cant confront them because it might HURT SOMEONES FEELINGS.
Its really fukced up if you think about it. Politicians wont tell people to get it together, theyre scared theyll lose the next election. Businesses, employees wont say anything, theyre scared of losing customers or getting fired.
Everyone is just waiting for the next famous white guy to say something racist so they can get out the soapbox and empty their cartridge of stones, bc thats all their social ingraination permits them to do. Or maybe a famous conservative will oppose abortion and they can fire away! Never confront someone with low income, never criticize a minority community, never question a democrat politician... These ****ing sheep are literally scared AF of being exiled from their "oooomg, i am SOOO smart and sensitive, everyone look how radically liberal I am, doesnt that make me cool??? Please tell me u think it makes me seem cool and edgy, PLEeeAaaseee..." little group. Theyre insecure weinies who NEED the approval of that group. They dont care WHAT the group tells them to think, as long as it means they get included in something for once in their lives.
And the culture of weenieness and insecurity and fear of hurt feelings is having grave consequences for our entire community. Its really messed up.
[QUOTE=kurple]well done america
[B]i bet nick young is proud[/B][/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Not surprising. There's a fast foot joint on every street in the US and the more people eat the more $$ that goes in the economy. The gov't may say they care about how unhealthy and unnatural the food is at MCD, BK, KFC, etc, but that's just BS as these restaurants probably have a pretty big lobby and are allowed to make the food as unhealthy and addicting as possible.
Then there's the fact that actual healthy food is a bit more expensive and takes more time to cook and for the average american they've bought into the marketing campaigns of fast food joints that allows them to eat at a notice.
lol it also seems like more and more everyday I see some shit trending on facebook of some fat bitch flaunting her fatness and shit. anyone else know what I'm talking about?
and if you call this shit out these fat ****s always refute with "some people just have health problems, not everyone can be skinny"
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
these are the dumb broads who try to diet for like two days, don't see immediate results and then just say **** it eat a whole tub of icecream the next day
Not suprising it's a mix of laziness (people would rather eat out than make something at home), Americans generally live in suburbs requiring a car to walk from point a to b, government interference (subsidizing corn and companies using corn syrup in all of their foods to make it taste better), etc
Confronting traditions is not the popular task to do.
I think it's safe to say that culture is something that is continuously being worked on and developed. I.E. The supreme court, appeal process etc.
And if you miss out on culture and got stuck with tradition.
You are a burden to a society that is trying to strive forward.
This applies to all of us, just on different subject matter.
[QUOTE=ShannonElements]Threw in the towel and sorry of adopted the mentality of "well I am the way I am so I may as well come to terms with it" and reverted right back to her old eating habits and not working out and shit.
I was really disappointed in her.[/QUOTE]
That is the debate on big/small government. Which, of course, policies can influence that.
I just got back from France...just about everyone there is skinny
the meals there are probably 3/4 the size of a normal US meal on average...US restaurants serve too much, we get huge portions of food that most never finish and it just goes to waste.
If I ever saw an obese person out while in France I automatically assumed they were an American tourist
[QUOTE=russwest0]lol it also seems like more and more everyday I see some shit trending on facebook of some fat bitch flaunting her fatness and shit. anyone else know what I'm talking about?
and if you call this shit out these fat ****s always refute with "some people just have health problems, not everyone can be skinny"
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
these are the dumb broads who try to diet for like two days, don't see immediate results and then just say **** it eat a whole tub of icecream the next day[/QUOTE]
you are against fat acceptance, you fatcist?:mad: :coleman:
[COLOR="White"]see what I did there?[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=~primetime~]I just got back from France...just about everyone there is skinny
the meals there are probably 3/4 the size of a normal US meal on average...US restaurants serve too much, we get huge portions of food that most never finish and it just goes to waste.
If I ever saw an obese person out while in France I automatically assumed they were an American tourist[/QUOTE]
Got tons of wealthy&good looking couples walking around in Paris..
You ever been to Vienna?
Home of beautiful women.. Guess a lot are also rich tourists
[QUOTE=~primetime~]I just got back from France...just about everyone there is skinny
the meals there are probably 3/4 the size of a normal US meal on average...US restaurants serve too much, we get huge portions of food that most never finish and it just goes to waste.
If I ever saw an obese person out while in France I automatically assumed they were an American tourist[/QUOTE]
I always tell people you can eat mostly what you'd like if you just watch your portion sizes.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Got tons of wealthy&good looking couples walking around in Paris..
You ever been to Viena?
Home of beautiful women.. Guess a lot are also rich tourists[/QUOTE]
I have not been to Vienna. Yes there are [B]A LOT[/B] of hot women running around in Paris, and everyone is very fashion and style conscious. If you're wearing shorts and Nikes then you had better be jogging.
There is a lack of deodorant in France though, body odor is prevalent. And men typically look unkept and ungroomed despite having good fashion sense. Also it seems like everyone smokes, so despite a lack of obesity I am not sure they are any healthier.
[QUOTE=~primetime~]I have not been to Vienna. Yes there are [B]A LOT[/B] of hot women running around in Paris, and everyone is very fashion and style conscious. If you're wearing shorts and Nikes then you had better be jogging.
There is a lack of deodorant in France though, body odor is prevalent. And men typically look unkept and ungroomed despite having good fashion sense. Also it seems like everyone smokes, so despite a lack of obesity I am not sure they are any healthier.[/QUOTE]
Vienna was amazing.. mindboggling. Every few seconds I could have turned my head to check out the next dime..
As far as Paris goes, you accurately broke it down :applause:
[QUOTE=russwest0]lol it also seems like more and more everyday I see some shit trending on facebook of some fat bitch flaunting her fatness and shit. anyone else know what I'm talking about?
and if you call this shit out these fat ****s always refute with "some people just have health problems, not everyone can be skinny"
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
these are the dumb broads who try to diet for like two days, don't see immediate results and then just say **** it eat a whole tub of icecream the next day[/QUOTE]
yep. stupid fat acceptance bitches. being fat is a bad thing.
Just because a 'report' or 'study' says something doesn't necessarily make it true. Especially studies like this that only bother accounting for one side of the equation. There are other studies that show people who live healthy and fit lives are the ones that actually cost society the most in the long run - these people are the true parasites of society. This is the reality when you take into account both sides of the equation and don't just select the statistics you want so you can make an argument for nannying the population.
Fat people, although repulsive and disgusting, really don't cost shit (relatively speaking). They die earlier, and elderly people, their medical costs and social care, are the biggest drains on public funds by some distance.
i'm not doubting we don't have a issue with obesity but a institute called Fiscal something seems like it has a agenda to paint this picture as bad as he can.
For him to even assign a lost money value to people who have died, based on obesity per person in lost money for USA, is rather ridiculous. that guy is probably like a tea party jerkoff.
also if you guys are going to pretend to police other peoples weights, you might as well do their green footprint, and overall activity as well. since we all pay for the roads, sidewalks, and other public fixtures people use and some tend to use a lot more....if you want to start making law along these type of lines at least.
Literally every lifestyle costs billions in medical costs. The cost that really matters is the downgrade to quality of life (self-esteem, social life, etc).
[QUOTE=Dresta]Just because a 'report' or 'study' says something doesn't necessarily make it true. Especially studies like this that only bother accounting for one side of the equation. There are other studies that show [COLOR="Red"]people who live healthy and fit lives are the ones that actually cost society the most in the long run - these people are the true parasites of society.[/COLOR] This is the reality when you take into account both sides of the equation and don't just select the statistics you want so you can make an argument for nannying the population.
Fat people, although repulsive and disgusting, really don't cost shit (relatively speaking). They die earlier, and elderly people, their medical costs and social care, are the biggest drains on public funds by some distance.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :facepalm
those that die at birth cost the least and are the least amount of burden to the rest of us so they are the true humanitarians. :bowdown: dead fetuses
or better yet, :bowdown: People that never existed
[QUOTE=Dresta]Just because a 'report' or 'study' says something doesn't necessarily make it true. Especially studies like this that only bother accounting for one side of the equation. There are other studies that show people who live healthy and fit lives are the ones that actually cost society the most in the long run - these people are the true parasites of society. This is the reality when you take into account both sides of the equation and don't just select the statistics you want so you can make an argument for nannying the population.
Fat people, although repulsive and disgusting, really don't cost shit (relatively speaking). They die earlier, and elderly people, their medical costs and social care, are the biggest drains on public funds by some distance.[/QUOTE]
This is true in some ways but IMO just because the government is too involved in financing the elderly doesnt mean we should excuse other people for being wasteful. The retirement age in our country should absolutely be raised, and medical expenses for the elderly have to be reigned in.
Our countrys balance sheet has become SO bloated with ridiculous entitlements and everyone thinks that just bc the money is there now (which it technically isnt but the effects on the economy arent as obvious rigt now) its always gonna be peaches and cream to run up bills on debt riddled programs.
Our democracy is RAPIDLY losing discipline and it is going to be a major problem at some point.
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]There are a number of problems on the verge of turning crises domestically and globally but we cant confront them because it might HURT SOMEONES FEELINGS.
Its really fukced up if you think about it. Politicians wont tell people to get it together, theyre scared theyll lose the next election. Businesses, employees wont say anything, theyre scared of losing customers or getting fired.
Everyone is just waiting for the next famous white guy to say something racist so they can get out the soapbox and empty their cartridge of stones, bc thats all their social ingraination permits them to do. Or maybe a famous conservative will oppose abortion and they can fire away! Never confront someone with low income, never criticize a minority community, never question a democrat politician... These ****ing sheep are literally scared AF of being exiled from their "oooomg, i am SOOO smart and sensitive, everyone look how radically liberal I am, doesnt that make me cool??? Please tell me u think it makes me seem cool and edgy, PLEeeAaaseee..." little group. Theyre insecure weinies who NEED the approval of that group. They dont care WHAT the group tells them to think, as long as it means they get included in something for once in their lives.
And the culture of weenieness and insecurity and fear of hurt feelings is having grave consequences for our entire community. Its really messed up.[/QUOTE]
so can you honestly list what you would do?
What can politicians do about obeseity?
Do you support the bloombergs of the world? (enforcing health)
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Literally every lifestyle costs billions in medical costs. The cost that really matters is the downgrade to quality of life (self-esteem, social life, etc).[/QUOTE]
Agreed. So basically personal and self-inflicted cost rather than societal cost. It sure doesn't help their self-esteem that people like the fools who conducted this 'report' are now accusing them of being some grand burden to society, as if turning them into hate figures will help their social lives.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzt7oCFN3ek[/url]
80% of American families look exactly like that
[QUOTE=~primetime~]:oldlol: :facepalm
those that die at birth cost the least and are the least amount of burden to the rest of us so they are the true humanitarians. :bowdown: dead fetuses
or better yet, :bowdown: People that never existed[/QUOTE]
I think you'll find that's just about primary justification for abortion: that it eases the burden on society in it not having to pay for and support millions of unwanted children.
Don't laugh at things your primitive mind evidently cannot comprehend. It is a fact that the obese don't cost more money in medical costs (on average) than the healthy. And if you were capable of thinking for yourself, you would realise this.
[QUOTE=Dresta]Agreed. So basically personal and self-inflicted cost rather than societal cost. It sure doesn't help their self-esteem that people like the fools who conducted this 'report' are now accusing them of being some grand burden to society, as if turning them into hate figures will help their social lives.[/QUOTE]
Information is information. If the World Fat Alliance wants to publish a report on what healthy people cost the government, theyre certainly welcome to. Never hurts to have all the facts. People have an interest in where government money is going.
[QUOTE=Dresta]
Fat people, although repulsive and disgusting, really don't cost shit (relatively speaking). They die earlier, and elderly people, their medical costs and social care, are the biggest drains on public funds by some distance.[/QUOTE]
Besides the fact that fat people, supports an eco system that probably isn't best for the country, but only for capitalism.
You can make it legal to not save someone who is in the emergency room.
Or you can make costly behaviors much more expensive.
"I shouldn't get punished for trying to get treatment. But I should be punished for trying to get myself more treatment"
Go figure that out.
[QUOTE=ShannonElements]I have a friend just like this. She wanted to lose weight and slim down, was super committed to it. So I tried to help her with tons of encouragement, took her running and to the gym with me, gave her dietary tips, basically functioned as her personal trainer etc. Then two weeks later when she stepped on the scale and hadn't lost as much weight as she expected to she completely gave up. Threw in the towel and sort of adopted the mentality of "well I am the way I am so I may as well come to terms with it" and reverted right back to her old eating habits and not working out and shit.
I was really disappointed in her.[/QUOTE]
Your weight is completely irrelevant. It's a joke that people still use BMI as an indicator of health and the scales for your overall weight. It's all about body composition. I bet your friend lost fat and gained some muscle which is a denser heavier tissue which made her result feel all that more underwhelming.
Giving up after 2 weeks is truly pathetic. Only liars can't find the time to get 15 minutes of exercise in each day.
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Information is information. If the World Fat Alliance wants to publish a report on what healthy people cost the government, theyre certainly welcome to. Never hurts to have all the facts. People have an interest in where government money is going.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't because there is no demand for such a report, and because it wouldn't fit with the contemporary form of health puritanism that has become the established consensus. Reports like this exist for one reason, and that is to convince people that the expansion of government powers into the personal lives and decisions of it's citizens is in their own interest, because it's costing them bare monies. It also gives worthless human beings a means of making a living too, i suppose.
[QUOTE=Dresta]I think you'll find that's just about primary justification for abortion: that it eases the burden on society in it not having to pay for and support millions of unwanted children.
Don't laugh at things your primitive mind evidently cannot comprehend. It is a fact that the obese don't cost more money in medical costs (on average) than the healthy. And if you were capable of thinking for yourself, you would realise this.[/QUOTE]
Thank you Dresta for being a fat depressed slob who will have heart failure before age 50, we healthy parasites won't have to pay for you in your old age. Your willingness to avoid the gym is really putting others before yourself, thank you oh great one.
:bowdown:
Fat ****s are the ones that should be discriminated against in society.
Gays can't help being gay. Black people can't help being black. 99% of fat people can help being fat. There are socioeconomic and health factors involved but for the most part it can be contained.
It's just as bad in England, Ireland, Australia etc. Fat ****s everywhere once you get outside the city.
People should take up skipping. A decent rope will only cost around $8 and you can get in great shape doing 10-15 minutes a day. You can do it literally anywhere and it's a low impact way of training as you only really need to bounce up and down on the balls of your feet.
I started doing it after my weight training. It's a brilliant way of burning calories.
also saying "long healthy lives cost more than short obese lives" may be true...but that doesn't take into account the fact that the average healthy life probably produces 10x the amount of money than the average fat fck who decided to sit on his couch his whole life.
healthy people PRODUCE and CONTRIBUTE more to society than fat slobs do...and I don't need to hunt down stats to understand that but here you go:
[IMG]http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/agbhggw4y0olxj-jefn00q.gif[/IMG]
shocker :eek: , the thinner and healthy you are the more money you produce
[QUOTE=~primetime~]Thank you Dresta for being a fat depressed slob who will have heart failure before age 50, we healthy parasites won't have to pay for you in your old age. Your willingness to avoid the gym is really putting others before yourself, thank you oh great one.
:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:roll:
:applause:
[QUOTE=Dresta]Just because a 'report' or 'study' says something doesn't necessarily make it true. Especially studies like this that only bother accounting for one side of the equation. There are other studies that show people who live healthy and fit lives are the ones that actually cost society the most in the long run - these people are the true parasites of society. This is the reality when you take into account both sides of the equation and don't just select the statistics you want so you can make an argument for nannying the population.
Fat people, although repulsive and disgusting, really don't cost shit (relatively speaking). They die earlier, and elderly people, their medical costs and social care, are the biggest drains on public funds by some distance.[/QUOTE]
This. Fat people and smokers don't cost us nearly as much as people who live to 100 and collect social security for 40 years. If you die of a heart attack or liver failure at 50 your saving us money.
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Literally every lifestyle costs billions in medical costs. The cost that really matters is the downgrade to quality of life (self-esteem, social life, etc).[/QUOTE]
Also in economics wouldn't you consider the benefits? McDonald's revenue was 28 billion last year.
Coca-Cola had revenue of 47 billion. I'm at 65 billion just picking two companies.
[QUOTE=~primetime~]also saying "long healthy lives cost more than short obese lives" may be true...but that doesn't take into account the fact that the average healthy life probably produces 10x the amount of money than the average fat fck who decided to sit on his couch his whole life.
healthy people PRODUCE and CONTRIBUTE more to society than fat slobs do...and I don't need to hunt down stats to understand that but here you go:
[IMG]http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/agbhggw4y0olxj-jefn00q.gif[/IMG]
shocker :eek: , the thinner and healthy you are the more money you produce[/QUOTE]
Not only that but healthier people tend to visit the doctors less and need less medical care in general.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Also in economics wouldn't you consider the benefits? McDonald's revenue was 28 billion last year.
Coca-Cola had revenue of 47 billion. I'm at 65 billion just picking two companies.[/QUOTE]
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