Wow. Time out. Wait. Man shoots guy who killed his kids VIA DUI and he's not guilty?

Basically drunk driver hits 2 children, (12 yrs and 11 yrs) Father of those children, shoots and kills the dude. Then, jury finds him not guilty.


Damn. You can just about do anything in Texas.

Anyone got more facts? I mean, yeah, I would have done the same, but I would do it knowing that I'm getting Life or soemthing. But for him to be not guilty? Wow.


[url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-finds-david-barajas-guilty-shooting-death-drunk/story?id=25149665[/url]

In essence, justice was served.


Without knowing the details of the case, I can assume that the Defendant's case circled around a temporary insanity defense that ultimately excused him from any guilt.

Don't blame the dude. If I was in his place, I would have done the same

Poetic justice.

I'm cool with it and if i was on the jury i'd vote not guilty

[QUOTE=MJ(Mean John)]Basically drunk driver hits 2 children, (12 yrs and 11 yrs) Father of those children, shoots and kills the dude. Then, jury finds him not guilty.


Damn. You can just about do anything in Texas.

Anyone got more facts? I mean, yeah, I would have done the same, but I would do it knowing that I'm getting Life or soemthing. But for him to be not guilty? Wow.


[url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-finds-david-barajas-guilty-shooting-death-drunk/story?id=25149665[/url][/QUOTE]
Texas knows whats up

No weapon found, no gun residue on him. Not guilty.

I'm sure if they wanted to dig deeper they would find more but they want to let him slide.

I remember this story. The f*cked up part is the fact that the drunk driver who was shot and killed had an infant daughter who was born shortly before the accident. All around shitty situation.

Not enough physical evidence and a Texas jury won't side with a murderer on the reasonable doubt.

My girlfriend's brother in law killed a guy with a rape warrant who was trying to rob stuff out of his garage. Even though he chased him into the street and killed him unarmed in his car, no charges were pressed. A guess the DA decided juries tend not to side with criminals.

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Texas knows whats up[/QUOTE]

No, they don't (see: affluenza kid).

This is a rare exception to the rule.

I remember this story. I'm glad he isn't going to serve prison time. F*ck drunk drivers. Idiot deserved death for murdering those boys.
You can say it was an accident, but the a-hole knew the risks associated with driving while impaired.

[QUOTE=red1]I remember this story. The f*cked up part is the fact that the drunk driver who was shot and killed had an infant daughter who was born shortly before the accident. All around shitty situation.[/QUOTE]

Good. One less shitty father in the world.

As others said they didn't have all the evidence. They probably should have gone with a lesser charge anyway. But I agree, regardless of what someone has done you can't just give people a walk for shooting them.

Here's a good question. Why is manslaughter a lesser crime offense than murder? I don't get it. It's literally the slaughter of a man!

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Here's a good question. Why is manslaughter a lesser crime offense than murder? I don't get it. It's literally the slaughter of a man![/QUOTE]

Malice maybe lol


Let me clear that up.


Murder= Homicide with Malice afore thought.

Manslaughter (voluntary or Involuntary) homocide without Malice or where Malice is mitigated.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Here's a good question. Why is manslaughter a lesser crime offense than murder? I don't get it. It's literally the slaughter of a man![/QUOTE]
Manslaughter is an accident, murder is premeditated

[QUOTE=outbreak]As others said they didn't have all the evidence. They probably should have gone with a lesser charge anyway. But I agree, regardless of what someone has done you can't just give people a walk for shooting them.[/QUOTE]

Especially when it's unclear if alcohol is directly responsible for the crash. After I combed over some more details on this case, it turns out the father and two kids were pushing their car down an unlit road. Not saying that makes it OK to hit them, but who's to say whether or not that had more to do with the crash than the alcohol?

Who's to say the Dad even knew the kid was drunk. Maybe he was just mad over his kids. It's understandable, but we can't be allowing people to gun the other person down every time an accident happens citing momentary insanity as the excuse.

I remember this too... Father was just as at fault as the drunk

He had his kids pushing his car on a dark rural road late on a weekend night, honestly that's just asking to get hit by a car, very unsafe

Just walk home and get your car next day

Texas doesnt **** around man

[QUOTE]
Joe Horn: “I’ve got a shotgun; do you want me to stop them?”

The Pasadena emergency operator responded: “Nope. Don’t do that. Ain’t no property worth shooting somebody over, O.K.?”

Mr. Horn said: “But hurry up, man. Catch these guys will you? Cause, I ain’t going to let them go.”

Mr. Horn then said he would get his shotgun.

The operator said, “No, no.” But Mr. Horn said: “I can’t take a chance of getting killed over this, O.K.? I’m going to shoot.”

The operator told him not to go out with a gun because officers would be arriving.

“O.K.,” Mr. Horn said. “But I have a right to protect myself too, sir,” adding, “The laws have been changed in this country since September the first, and you know it.”

The operator said, “You’re going to get yourself shot.” But Mr. Horn replied, “You wanna bet?”

Moments later he said, “Well here it goes, buddy. You hear the shotgun clicking and I’m going.”

Then he said: “Move, you’re dead.”

There were two quick gunshots, then a third.

“I had no choice,” Mr. Horn said when he got back on the line with the dispatcher. “They came in the front yard with me, man.”

The 911 call ended about 80 seconds after the shots were fired, when officers arrived on the scene.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that he ran out of his house to shoot two dudes that were robbing his neighbors. He was never in any danger until he went vigilante on them.

He was cleared by a grand jury via no bill.

While he will never get anything close to justice cause he lost his kids this is as good as you can get it, finally some common sense dude did the world a service getting rid of some drunk piece of crap that killed his kids.

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Good. One less shitty father in the world.[/QUOTE]
No good at all.

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Good. One less shitty father in the world.[/QUOTE]
terrible post. driving drunk doesnt necessarily make someone a shitty father

This is one of the best decisions in american judicial history.

David Barajas is a personal hero of mine now.
I am an atheist but thank god that this poor man was found not guilty for murdering the drunk driver that killed his sons.

[IMG]http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1704679.ece/alternates/s615/David%20and%20Caleb%20Barajas.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://shark-tank.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/David-Barajas-elite-daily.jpg[/IMG]

Drunk driver ruined this poor man's life. I dont care if they found him constantly reloading and putting bullets into the drunk drivers dead body.

I would never have convicted Barajas if I was on his jury.
This is why jury nullification is so important.

[QUOTE=red1]terrible post. driving drunk doesnt necessarily make someone a shitty father[/QUOTE]
Making irresponsible decisions and following through on them doesn't make someone a terrible father? He has/had an infant just born days ago and decides to drive after drinking. That's an irresponsible decision if I've ever heard of one.
Even if he didn't kill these boys, he could've just as easily killed someone else. God forbid he decided to take his newborn for a drive after drinking. He could have also ended up in jail if he had been caught driving by cops.
He should've known better. He had a newborn at home to take care of. Now that little girl is growing up without her biological father in her life. Little baby probably got lucky.

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Making irresponsible decisions and following through on them doesn't make someone a terrible father? He has/had an infant just born days ago and decides to drive after drinking. That's an irresponsible decision if I've ever heard of one.
Even if he didn't kill these boys, he could've just as easily killed someone else. God forbid he decided to take his newborn for a drive after drinking. He could have also ended up in jail if he had been caught driving by cops.
He should've known better. He had a newborn at home to take care of. Now that little girl is growing up without her biological father in her life. Little baby probably got lucky.[/QUOTE]
That little girl is lucky her daddy died?

You know you're a moron right?

Jury nullification.

[QUOTE=~primetime~][B]I remember this too... Father was just as at fault as the drunk
[/B]
He had his kids pushing his car on a dark rural road late on a weekend night, honestly that's just asking to get hit by a car, very unsafe

Just walk home and get your car next day[/QUOTE]
:biggums: :biggums:
I have helped push cars at that age.

How about dont drink and drive and kill some innocent kids.
Drunk driver deserved to have his skin peeled off. got off easy.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]:biggums: :biggums:
I have helped push cars at that age.

How about dont drink and drive and kill some innocent kids.
Drunk driver deserved to have his skin peeled off. got off easy.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly he had his two sons pushing his car at like 3AM on a dark rural road and on a weekend night on top of that.

Horrible choice... Every driver is drunk at that hour, in fact wouldn't be surprised if he was... He then walked all the way home to get his gun and came back where the driver was trying to save the boys he hit.... He then unloaded on him.

I also remember it being noted the two boys were blocking the tail lights... So they were completely dark to on coming traffic

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raUhCuG_DrQ&list=UUupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw[/url]
CNN report on the story. Thankfully cops and prosecutors went easy on Mr Barajas. Barajas reminds me of another hero of mine, gary plauche.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3Hyxuf5AE[/url]
Man who murdered the guy that kidnapped and raped his son. The murder was caught on tape, but a court of law let him off too.

[QUOTE=ThePhantomCreep]No, they don't (see: affluenza kid).

This is a rare exception to the rule.[/QUOTE]
No texas gets it right more often than not, nowadays. In the past no, but in 2014 yes.

ethan couch deserved the needle though. that judge should be disbarred. She also gave another teen only 10 years for killing a man by randomly punching him.

Ethan couch ruined so many lives, it pisses me off he gets to live.

[QUOTE=~primetime~]If I remember correctly he had his two sons pushing his car at like 3AM on a dark rural road and on a weekend night on top of that.

Horrible choice... Every driver is drunk at that hour, in fact wouldn't be surprised if he was... He then walked all the way home to get his gun and came back where the driver was trying to save the boys he hit.... He then unloaded on him.[/QUOTE]
I am familiar with the story.
[QUOTE]e then walked all the way home to get his gun and came back where the driver was trying to save the boys he hit.... He then unloaded on him.[/QUOTE]
Like i said my hero. the boys were already dead. He insured justice was served
They were close to home, I would have asked my dad to let me help him push the car home

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Making irresponsible decisions and following through on them doesn't make someone a terrible father? He has/had an infant just born days ago and decides to drive after drinking. That's an irresponsible decision if I've ever heard of one.
Even if he didn't kill these boys, he could've just as easily killed someone else. God forbid he decided to take his newborn for a drive after drinking. He could have also ended up in jail if he had been caught driving by cops.
He should've known better. He had a newborn at home to take care of. Now that little girl is growing up without her biological father in her life. Little baby probably got lucky.[/QUOTE]

Likewise another, non-impaired driver could have easily hit people pushing a car down a dark road.

Was the Dad even aware that he was under the influence? Say the driver isn't impaired...do you still justify the murder? Is the difference based solely on the driver's blood alcohol level to you?

There are no heroes in this... It just sucks from top to bottom

[I]"a murder weapon was never found, gun residue was not found on Barajas

[QUOTE=PHX_Phan]Likewise another, non-impaired driver could have easily hit people pushing a car down a dark road.

Was the Dad even aware that he was under the influence? Say the driver isn't impaired...do you still justify the murder? Is the difference based solely on the driver's blood alcohol level to you?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Solely on alcohol level.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3Hyxuf5AE[/url]
Man who murdered the guy that kidnapped and raped his son. The murder was caught on tape, but a court of law let him off too.
[/QUOTE]

Now THIS... I can dig it

[QUOTE=~primetime~]If I remember correctly he had his two sons pushing his car at like 3AM on a dark rural road and on a weekend night on top of that.

Horrible choice... [b]Every driver is drunk at that hour,[/b] in fact wouldn't be surprised if he was... He then walked all the way home to get his gun and came back where the driver was trying to save the boys he hit.... He then unloaded on him.[/QUOTE]

Calls me an idiot while making a blatantly ignorant and stupid comment himself. If this were the case, I think cops' jobs would be much easier. Just wait to bust all cars driven at that hour.
If you read my post, I said this father potentially could've driven with the infant in the car one day while being drunk. That little girl probably got a new chance at life by not having a drunk for a father.

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Calls me an idiot while making a blatantly ignorant and stupid comment himself. If this were the case, I think cops' jobs would be much easier. Just wait to bust all cars driven at that hour.
If you read my post, I said this father potentially could've driven with the infant in the car one day while being drunk. That little girl probably got a new chance at life by not having a drunk for a father.[/QUOTE]
You know your avy is a drunk icon right?

It is very unlikely that girl will be better off without a dad

[QUOTE=~primetime~]You know your avy is a drunk icon right?

It is very unlikely that girl will be better off without a dad[/QUOTE]

Barney is a cartoon character, not a real person driving drunk and ruining families.

Alas, I digress. You're likely right. Even a drunk of a father is better than no father. My comment was extreme and I admit it was unnecessary.

[QUOTE=DwnShft2Xcelr8]Barney is a cartoon character, not a real person driving drunk and ruining families.

Alas, I digress. You're likely right. Even a drunk of a father is better than no father. My comment was extreme and I admit it was unnecessary.[/QUOTE]

Oops El Jeffe is here I better edit this post.

I bet you have to downshift to accelerate because your ricer has no torque, am I right? :D

[QUOTE=~primetime~]He then walked all the way home to get his gun and came back where the driver was trying to save the boys he hit.... He then unloaded on him.[/QUOTE]

thats pretty messed up. hard to believe he was not convicted.