Hypocrisies in feminism

According to feminists:

Peaches-'a strong an empowered feminist icon in control of her sexuality and not afraid to express herself'
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CLt8xIVp4E[/url]
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Beyonce, Rihanna and Shakira-nothing but sexual objects perpetuating the patriarchy. Poor naive women whose bodies are being exploited by evil men in suits.
[IMG]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3mP3mJDL2k[/IMG]

[IMG]http://icydk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/riri-shakira-e1391197959826.jpg[/IMG]


Why is peaches female empowerment and Shakira represents female suppression, according to feminists?:confusedshrug: Seems to me that because Peaches isn't hot, it's empowering for her to grind audience members heads while dressed in thongs. If Shakira does it, because she is fine as hell, she's nothing but a sexual object.:facepalm Feminism is basically an excuse for girls to slag on hot chicks without coming off as jelly.

Shit like this is the reason people shouldn't take feminism seriously. Too many holes in the theory and logic.

Do you wake up in the morning and think about feminism?

[QUOTE=niko]Do you wake up in the morning and think about feminism?[/QUOTE]
I think about many things dawg.

If reading about hypocrisy in feminism upsets you, feel free to not post about it :)

A lot of women I know consider Shakira and Beyonce as feminist heroes. But I do think it's a fair criticism that attractive women get unfairly criticized by some feminists.

Women are gonna be women. their confusing minds aren't something that a man should logically try to decipher.

Who the **** is peaches :biggums:

Blurred Lines video-

The concept was created by a woman, the video was directed by a woman, the video stars women.

The women in the video had interviews here they said they loved filming the video and had a lot of fun shooting it. They made lots of money and received lots of fame. Emma Ratajkowski is one of the top models in the world now, partly due to the hype that video got her.

But according to feminists, the women in this video were unfairly exploited by evil Robin Thicke. He had nothing to do with the creation of the video but he is entirely to blame. The women in the video were forced to 'do things they didn't want to do'


Also Blurred Lines is a 'rape anthem' because it has the line "You know you want it" which apparently is code for "I want to rape you"

I post about this shit so much because in my old office job I was surrounded by hardcore feminists all the time and had to put up with their hypocritical bullshit on a daily basis.

The biggest social justice warrior was always doing things like looking up tumblr blogs of naked men and cats, then loudly talking about it to everyone in the office.

If I or another male had been looking at blogs of naked women and cats, and yelling about it, we would probably be fired, and labeled sex predators, and misogynists.

But in feminist land, it's ok for women to look at sexually objectifying porn during work hours, and have nothing happen to them.

And if you say anything questioning the hypocrisy, like I am right now, you get told 'wah wah wah stop whining' or 'you are a misogynist'

I want equal pay and rights for everyone regardless of gender. Feminism doesn't want that. Feminism wants for women to be able to have their cake and eat it too. 3rd wave feminism is a toxic ideology that is ruining society and promotes female dominance, rather then equality, as well as artistic censorship.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HO_S0zZDms[/url]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Who the **** is peaches :biggums:[/QUOTE]
A stripper clearly, her name is peaches.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Who the **** is peaches :biggums:[/QUOTE]
a feminist icon that we were taught about in university as being some brilliant musical artist. Turns out her music is shit and all she does is grind on dudes while singing about wanting to phuck them, and isnt that hot

Women just need to accept that they are here to reproduce, cook, clean and fvck.

Feminism is politicized. Groups such as NOW and others are garbage. Other groups probably started with good intentions are the same..bought out and political..such as the NAACP, ACLU, and others.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]a feminist icon that we were taught about in university [/QUOTE]


Damn, thats what thousands of $ in tuition costs buys nowadays??


Glad as phuck I dropped out when I did.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Damn, thats what thousands of $ in tuition costs buys nowadays??


Glad as phuck I dropped out when I did.[/QUOTE]
forreal dawg.

And if you question anything said in these MANDATORY feminism classes, you get shot down and yelled at by the professor and entire class, even if all you're doing as ASKING a question:lol

Uni ain't shit these days unless you're doing something useful like medicine, engineering or law.

what kind of shit university are you attending that has mandatory feminism classes? this doesnt exist in the states.

Feminism is pretty much ugly women hating on pretty women and promoting Marxism/communism.

[QUOTE=Nanners]what kind of shit university are you attending that has mandatory feminism classes? this doesnt exist in the states.[/QUOTE]
it was called Visual Communication in the Media or some shit, but for all intents and purposes was feminism 101 because every lecture was about feminist theory and every topic was somehow spun in to women being repressed.:facepalm

But I did go to a shit university as well, I will tell you that much

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Feminism is pretty much ugly women hating on pretty women and promoting Marxism/communism.[/QUOTE]
Yes that's exactly the impression I got! But you can't say this shit to people or you get branded a hateful misogynist!:lol

[QUOTE=Nick Young]it was called [B]Visual Communication in the Media[/B] or some shit, but for all intents and purposes was feminism 101 because every lecture was about feminist theory and every topic was somehow spun in to women being repressed.:facepalm

But I did go to a shit university as well, I will tell you that much[/QUOTE]

thats the name of a required course? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Nanners]thats the name of a required course? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
yes it was something bullshit like that, maybe it was called Media Studies or something but it was really just feminism 101.

Yes, my uni was quite shit-let's just say it was not on the same spectrum as Oxford or Cambridge XD

[QUOTE=Nanners]what kind of shit university are you attending that has mandatory feminism classes? this doesnt exist in the states.[/QUOTE]
He's in England, which has a horrifically left wing school system. Unles of course you attend one of the countless government funded islamic school.

All schools in England teach that English people don't exist and are inherently bad oppressive people.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]a feminist icon that we were taught about in university as being some brilliant musical artist. Turns out her music is shit and all she does is grind on dudes while singing about wanting to phuck them, and isnt that hot[/QUOTE]

You must have went to a shit university if they taught you about Peaches :biggums:

I actually saw Peaches live once. They were terrible and I left in the middle of their show because their music was terrible (I went to see Eagles of Death Metal open for them, but sadly they were terrible too).

[QUOTE=Nick Young]

But I did go to a shit university as well, I will tell you that much[/QUOTE]

Aw, ok, well at least you know.

Actually when I was briefly attending OSU, the English course I took was taught by some TA who was an obvious lesbian, which is not a problem in itself, but practically everything we read had themes of gender equality or someone coming to grips with their sexuality and all that sort of stuff.

Thats pretty much what you pay for from college these days. Watching some guy or gal huff and puff their social/politicial viewpoints from a soapbox for 45 minutes. Blatant waste of time and money.

Thats why its called a school. Big school of fish just swimming in whatever direction the rest of the group is swimming. And the funny thing is, none of it actually prepares you to swim with the sharks when youre done.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Actually when I was briefly attending OSU, the English course I took was taught by some TA who was an obvious lesbian, which is not a problem in itself, but practically everything we read had themes of gender equality or someone coming to grips with their sexuality and all that sort of stuff.

Thats pretty much what you pay for from college these days. Watching some guy or gal huff and puff their social/politicial viewpoints from a soapbox for 45 minutes. Blatant waste of time and money.

Thats why its called a school. Big school of fish just swimming in whatever direction the rest of the group is swimming. And the funny thing is, none of it actually prepares you to swim with the sharks when youre done.[/QUOTE]

It prepared me :confusedshrug:

I think you need to have some self direction and know what you want to get out of school. I know many people who went to school and just got through it with no direction, and when they were spit out the other end, they had a diploma but no idea what to do with it.

[QUOTE=Myth]It prepared me :confusedshrug:
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In what ways?

Note that I dont mean it may not fulfill a token requirement to get a particular job. Obviously in the current backward system it often does. But how does it actually prepare you in terms of personal development to succeed in life?

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]
Thats why its called a school. Big school of fish just swimming in whatever direction the rest of the group is swimming. [B]And the funny thing is, none of it actually prepares you to swim with the sharks when youre done.[/B][/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

because you are such a strong swimmer today, right? remind me what you do for a living right now.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Actually when I was briefly attending OSU, the English course I took was taught by some TA who was an obvious lesbian, which is not a problem in itself, but practically everything we read had themes of gender equality or someone coming to grips with their sexuality and all that sort of stuff.

Thats pretty much what you pay for from college these days. Watching some guy or gal huff and puff their social/politicial viewpoints from a soapbox for 45 minutes. Blatant waste of time and money.

Thats why its called a school. Big school of fish just swimming in whatever direction the rest of the group is swimming. And the funny thing is, none of it actually prepares you to swim with the sharks when youre done.[/QUOTE]
You are right. All it prepares you to do is be a good little office drone in the work force and fit in to others in 9-5 jobs. University teaches compliance and not much else that is useful.

Unfortunately, most of the world is still under the impression you need to go to university to have any chance at being successful:lol

[QUOTE=NumberSix]He's in England, which has a horrifically left wing school system. Unles of course you attend one of the countless government funded islamic school.

All schools in England teach that English people don't exist and are inherently bad oppressive people.[/QUOTE]

Seems a fair assumption to make from 5000 miles away

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]In what ways?

Note that I dont mean it may not fulfill a token requirement to get a particular job. Obviously in the current backward system it often does. But how does it actually prepare you in terms of personal development to succeed in life?[/QUOTE]

I meant it prepared me for my career. Because I had a direction career wise, I was able to take classes that prepared me for said career.

[QUOTE=Myth]I meant it prepared me for my career. Because I had a direction career wise, I was able to take classes that prepared me for said career.[/QUOTE]


For sure. Obviously some classes usually relate to your chosen career field and thats helpful.

But what percentage of classes you took throughout the course of getting a degree would you say were directly useful to you? Arent you a therapist or something? (Or maybe Im confusing you with a diff poster). Were the mandatory math and english and elective credits you had to pay thousands for of much use when it came time to practice?

Could you have skipped half the course load over that four years and still been equally as prepared?

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]For sure. Obviously some classes usually relate to your chosen career field and thats helpful.

But what percentage of classes you took throughout the course of getting a degree would you say were directly useful to you? Arent you a therapist or something? (Or maybe Im confusing you with a diff poster). Were the mandatory math and english and elective credits you had to pay thousands for of much use when it came time to practice?

Could you have skipped half the course load over that four years and still been equally as prepared?[/QUOTE]
Yes. But there is something to being willing to do what is asked even if it's not perfectly matched to what you want to do, and especially if it may help and you can't see how. The working world, if you are going to fight tooth and nail every request based on not wanting to waste time, honestly you'll waste a lot of time.

I'd say 25% of what i took was utter shit, about 50% related, and about 25% related in some way that was a stretch. But i had a focused major (accounting) which required a lot of credits in the major. If you are just doing some general major, college can be a enormous waste of resources.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]For sure. Obviously some classes usually relate to your chosen career field and thats helpful.

But what percentage of classes you took throughout the course of getting a degree would you say were directly useful to you? Arent you a therapist or something? (Or maybe Im confusing you with a diff poster). Were the mandatory math and english and elective credits you had to pay thousands for of much use when it came time to practice?

Could you have skipped half the course load over that four years and still been equally as prepared?[/QUOTE]

You are thinking of the correct poster. Math and English were definitely useful. I have to do a lot of writing for work, so being able to write professionally is important for many reasons. I went further in math than I needed to (Calc 2) because I originally was looking at a bio major. Even though I didn't need to go that far, I definitely need math for statistics in my line of work. If I went the research route, I would have needed it more, but I do still need it for interpreting research findings.

My art credits were unnecessary, but I don't regret taking them for the sake of being able to create some nice shit for fun. My poly sci classes were unnecessary, but it helped me have at least somewhat of a better idea of US politics. Bio in hindsight was unnecessary since I changed majors, by it is again nice having some above basic knowledge of how the world works. So, yeah, I took some classes that don't directly impact me or my career, but I appreciate knowledge.

I view it like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. If you go to college and don't get from it what you need for a job, and thus income for food, home, family, etc, you will likely come away from it pretty pissed and feel you have wasted your time. If you are like me and got from college what you needed, then you can also appreciate the side classes you took and achieve the top of Maslow's hierarchy, self-actualization.

thread should be called "hypocrisies in nick young" or better yet "hypocrisies in everyone"

[QUOTE=RidonKs]thread should be called "hypocrisies in nick young" or better yet "hypocrisies in everyone"[/QUOTE]
Dawg, do female professional tennis players deserve to be payed the same as males, despite playing two sets less per match and drawing in less TV ratings and less money in terms of ticket sales?:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Myth]You are thinking of the correct poster. Math and English were definitely useful. I have to do a lot of writing for work, so being able to write professionally is important for many reasons. I went further in math than I needed to (Calc 2) because I originally was looking at a bio major. Even though I didn't need to go that far, I definitely need math for statistics in my line of work. If I went the research route, I would have needed it more, but I do still need it for interpreting research findings.

My art credits were unnecessary, but I don't regret taking them for the sake of being able to create some nice shit for fun. My poly sci classes were unnecessary, but it helped me have at least somewhat of a better idea of US politics. Bio in hindsight was unnecessary since I changed majors, by it is again nice having some above basic knowledge of how the world works. So, yeah, I took some classes that don't directly impact me or my career, but I appreciate knowledge.

I view it like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. If you go to college and don't get from it what you need for a job, and thus income for food, home, family, etc, you will likely come away from it pretty pissed and feel you have wasted your time. If you are like me and got from college what you needed, then you can also appreciate the side classes you took and achieve the top of Maslow's hierarchy, self-actualization.[/QUOTE]
do you think you learned things in these classes that you couldn't have learned if you had decided to take the initiative and do the research for yourself?:confusedshrug:

Universities back in the day encouraged genuine academic study. Now it's just all about hoop jumping.

I originally said this several months ago, but i think this is a good opportunity to repeat myself -

The value of a college education is not simply the ability to get a good job in a STEM field. Many classes like Philosophy and Literature are considered to be "useless" because you cant use them to get a job, but that is losing sight of the entire point of education in the first place. College was never about getting a job historically, it was about improving your intellectual capabilities. One of the most important skills you aquire at college is the ability to think logically and critically, to form rational thoughts and coherent arguments that stand up in the face of criticism, and these abilities are honed during these "useless" liberal arts classes like Philosophy.

Take a look at the two posters in this thread who have been talking about the uselessness of college, think about the previous posts you have read from these two clowns on this website. Neither of them have any ability to think critically or form rational arguments. They would both benefit tremendously from a well rounded college education.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]Dawg, do female professional tennis players deserve to be payed the same as males, despite playing two sets less per match and drawing in less TV ratings and less money in terms of ticket sales?:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Depends how much they bring in. I think you picked a terrible example, plenty of times in history the women have easily outdrew the men. I get your point but wrong example. There are like 100 sports examples better than that.

Good example is that Mone girl. People were arguing she'd "open up baseball for women". What? Baseball will let anyone play IF YOU CAN PLAY. Women can;t, not at that level. But people were arguing that no women played due to sexism!

[QUOTE=Nick Young]do you think you learned things in these classes that you couldn't have learned if you had decided to take the initiative and do the research for yourself?:confusedshrug:

Universities back in the day encouraged genuine academic study. Now it's just all about hoop jumping.[/QUOTE]



^ This sums it up nicely.


Nobody (in this thread) is discouraging learning. My point is that millions of kids are going into debt bc they buy education in a sellers market when they could achieve the same result going to the library for free. They think they "have to" go to college automatically or there is no hope for them ever making a decent income. Its become this ingrained mindset that nobody even questions anymore. Its a fallacy. The actual value of college tuition has become grossly over-inflated.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]^ This sums it up nicely.


Nobody (in this thread) is discouraging learning. My point is that millions of kids are going into debt bc they buy education in a sellers market when they could achieve the same result going to the library for free. They think they "have to" go to college automatically or there is no hope for them ever making a decent income. Its become this ingrained mindset that nobody even questions anymore. Its a fallacy. The actual value of college tuition has become grossly over-inflated.[/QUOTE]
if you really think you can achieve the same result by simply reading books at the library as you get taking classes where you have group discussions and receive feedback on your thoughts from an expert in the field.... well, its not hard to see why you had to drop out of OSU

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]^ This sums it up nicely.


Nobody (in this thread) is discouraging learning. My point is that millions of kids are going into debt bc they buy education in a sellers market when they could achieve the same result going to the library for free. They think they "have to" go to college automatically or there is no hope for them ever making a decent income. The actual value of college tuition has become grossly over-inflated.[/QUOTE]

Sure, my university experience involved a lot of hoop jumping but I also learned a lot of great things in literature, psychology, philosophy, etc that I'd have a much more difficult time doing on my own. Having access to quality teachers and a group of peers also interested in learning/discussing diverse subjects was invaluable to me during my college years. You can learn a lot on your own but being an autodidact is a genuine talent that many lack.