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[QUOTE]Snyder said defending Howard is a struggle.
[QUOTE]Silver spent Tuesday in San Antonio, awarding the Spurs their 2014 championship rings. So, naturally, he visited the NBA’s next dynasty in the making. "I see a lot of similarity, frankly," Silver said in a pregame news conference.[/QUOTE]
minus the stars maybe
[QUOTE]I’m not sure anybody else would have made that association as the game unfolded, with the Jazz’s usual mixed performance.
The discouraging: Gordon Hayward’s outside shooting, Enes Kanter’s interior defense and the Jazz’s 3-point defense.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure Howard did most of his damage against Favors but let's put it all on Enes not to mention the traditionally horrid perimeter D.
[QUOTE]The encouraging: Alec Burks’ work vs. James Harden, Trevor Booker’s bench contribution and Dante Exum’s 3-pointer — well, only two other Jazzmen made any of them.
Of the stuff Snyder preaches, transition defense was the most glaring issue, playing into the Rockets’ 14-of-27 effort from 3-point range.[/QUOTE]
Damn you Enes!
[QUOTE]"We can’t give up wide-open threes, that’s for sure," Hayward said. "It’s just one of those things where we’ve got to shore up the initial part of our defense."
Derrick Favors took the microphone before tip-off and told the crowd, "Hope y’all have a great time."
If you were looking for a symbol of a fresh start, though, nothing that happened Wednesday resembled the 2005-06 opener. That’s when the Jazz were coming off a 26-56 season, and rookie Deron Williams banked in a 61-foot shot during a victory over Dallas.
That team improved to 41-41, barely missing the playoffs. This team? A long way away, obviously.
That point was driven home in the last minute of the first half, when the Jazz gave up two 3-pointers, and again in the fourth quarter.
This offense can function well. The wide spacing enabled Hayward to drive and dunk in a half-court set, and other good signs included Exum’s pass for a Rudy Gobert dunk and Burke’s feed to Booker for a layup. But too many times, that extra pass went to nobody — or worse, the other guys.
Much work remains, and Snyder knows it. "It’s hard to describe a loss as a step forward," he said.
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[QUOTE]“I don’t think we were overthinking too much,” Hayward said afterward. “We got some good looks, just didn’t knock them down. You’ll have days like that. I didn’t shoot the ball well tonight, and those days will happen. So for the most part don’t think we should overreact.”[/QUOTE]
At least G didn't keep shooting and missing like Trey and did some other things.
[QUOTE]It’s true there are 81 games left.
No reason to worry yet … is there?
“The last thing I want him to do is think about his shooting percent or anything like that,” coach Quin Snyder said. “I think that’s counterproductive. I watched him shoot the ball in practice and in preseason. We’ve just got to keep encouraging it. I think his numbers will be there.”
That’s good for him, but for those who were in Utah for the Andrei Kirilenko era, it’s a scary thought. He too was a statistical freak show, and at times the team’s highest-paid player. There was always an argument for what he did right.
But he never became more than good.[/QUOTE]
He did actually but that was at his peak before they paid him.
[QUOTE]The Jazz need Hayward to be great.[/QUOTE]
They need it but you shouldn't expect it. They overpaid him. He's a streaky shooter at best. He's not a go to guy. He's a more refined version of AK. I wouldn't expect more just because they paid him. That's on the Jazz not G.
[QUOTE]Until Dante Exum grows up, or Derrick Favors changes into an offensive machine, or Trey Burke gets tall, Hayward is their hope. [/QUOTE]
So Exum is their great hope since Alec and Enes suck.
[QUOTE]They’ve hinted at that before. They’ve also pointed out he does more than score. True enough. He had eight rebounds and seven assists on Wednesday. But he also had three field goals in 11 tries, the last one not coming until 4
[QUOTE]The Rockets also shot like crazy from outside, going 14 for 27 from deep compared to a woeful 3-for-18 3-point night by the Jazz.[/QUOTE]
Rockets have shooters. The Jazz don't.
[QUOTE]The usual suspects
[QUOTE]The Jazz shot 3 for 18 from 3-point range. They surrendered 14 threes to the Rockets in 27 attempts.
Really, that
[QUOTE]3-18 isn
[QUOTE]The Rockets were 7 of 8 on corner 3’s – the Jazz last year were the worst team in the NBA defending the corner 3.[/QUOTE]
****in' Ty!
[QUOTE]You could see the offensive movement and the ability to get good looks. The Jazz shot 60% in the first half.
The 3 point shooting edge was considerable. The Rockets hit 14 of 27 from 3 and the Jazz were just 3 of 18 . Last year, the Jazz missed a ton of uncontested jumpers. It will be interesting to see those numbers tonight. Felt like the Jazz got some looks but couldn’t knock them down.
The Jazz are very balanced offensively. Trey Burke took 16 shots, Kanter took 12, Hawyard and Burks had 11 FGA and Favors and Booker 10. At some point the Jazz may have to prioritize these possessions.[/QUOTE]
Got to go to the hot hand though. They couldn't stop Kanter around the basket or Burks or Favors anywhere but Trey was throwing up bricks instead.
[QUOTE]Trey Burke lead the Jazz on a nice run at the end of the third quarter with a 10-0 surge. This cut the game down to 3 at the end of 3, but the Rockets burst out to open the 4th quarter to take control of the game.
The game opened as a post battle. Howard scored 10 of the first 12 points of the game for the Rockets and Favors had 8 of the first 10 for the Jazz. The Jazz were single teaming Howard but Favors picked up a foul early so the Jazz used Kanter more on Howard and Howard had his way.[/QUOTE]
He had his way with Favors.
[QUOTE]The Rockets Kostas Papanikolaou is nice player. He shots the heck out of the ball and he has a little dribble game.
Cool story that Dante Exum and his childhood favorite player Joe Ingles make their NBA debut on the same team on the same night.
Jazz starting 5 was really good on offense. They hit 10 of 16 and scored 26 points in 11 minutes[/QUOTE]
and the Rockets starting 5 was better. This is a game where a bench could have made a big difference because the Rockets don't appear to have a lot of weapons around Ariza and their stars.
[QUOTE]Can the Jazz play offense was Rudy Gobert is on the floor? Tonight the Jazz were 12 for 36 shooting with Gobert on the floor. The rest of the game the Jazz were 26 of 45. It is not all Rudy but the different between 33% and 58% is considerable and worth keeping an eye on. Rudy is an amazing force defensively the Jazz have to figure out how to score with him.[/QUOTE]
Who was on the floor with Rudy? Mostly the bench and Burks. Play him with Enes, Burks, G and Burke and see how the offense looks.
[QUOTE]I believe Dwight Howard only had 2 of his 22 when being guarded by Gobert.
The jazz went small with Hayward at the 4 in those 3 minutes the Jazz were -7[/QUOTE]
Could be a good line-up. Eventually Hood in that role too. Maybe Ingles it sounds like.
[QUOTE]Jazz pace of play was 91 possessions that is not quick.
Talk to you from Dallas
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See how the pick and roll D is tonight.
Didn't get to watch the game last night (bloody women!), but will have to catch up with that and todays game against the Mavs when I get home. Bought the League Pass this year to make sure I get to see more games since it's hard to catch the live stream a lot of times.
Just started watching the Houston game. First quarter done. Favors looks really good on offense so far. Kanter is getting destroyed by Howard along the baseline and Burke seems to be forcing it a bit too much. Cant help but think they could have done with a big shooter like Pat Patterson or Hawes instead of Booker, although Booker has played well.
Booker might be that shooter yet! They need help elsewhere. The rookies aren't ready. Ingles looked like he might be able to help though. Not sure if he's even had a practice with the team?
[QUOTE]Perhaps the best indication that Snyder was experimenting was the lineup that closed the first half: Burke, Exum, Hood, Novak and Rudy Gobert. Clearly tinkering.[/QUOTE]
That's ugly! Evans was the only one not to play. I assume Hamilton will be replacing him on the active roster. Might as well trade him.
[QUOTE]It
[QUOTE]The Jazz open the season playing the 4th best offense from last season (Houston), the 3rd best (Dallas), 7th best (Phoenix), 1st (Clippers), Cleveland (Miami was 2nd) and Dallas (7th). How about we evaluate the defense starting sometime in late November or December. This is a brutal stretch.[/QUOTE]
Yeah let's make more excuses for tanking!
[QUOTE]Derrick Favors has played two very good basketball games. If this is an indicator of what is coming Derrick is about to have a mammoth season. The first two games have been against two of the best centers in the Western Conference, Tyson Chandler and Dwight Howard.
Favors is shooting 64% in 2 games. The Jazz are playing him from the top rather than from the block and he is so much more effective. The best way I can put it he is a mini Amare not a mini Malone.[/QUOTE]
We'll see. If they can keep him moving he can be effective. Posting him up is usually ugly though.
[QUOTE]The Jazz offense struggled the minute Rudy Gobert got on the floor again. I tried to watch it the best I could when I was calling the game and it was hard to see anything that was causing it but sure enough they went 5 minutes without scoring from the moment he checked in and scored 2 poi nts in 6 mintues. This is a big issue because Rudy can be a big time force in this league if the Jazz can figure out how to play offense with him on the floor. This takes time.[/QUOTE]
Same thing with playing D with Enes on the court.
[QUOTE]I could see what the Jazz like in Joe Ingles[/QUOTE]
certainly!
[QUOTE]Alec Burks used 12 possessions tonight. He shot 5 three pointers. That is 41% of his possessions. It might be a little high but I love the direction that is going. He needs to be able to shoot the long ball as a shooting guard in the NBA and then his drive game will become even better.[/QUOTE]
I always thought he'd be able to shoot he's just never had to do it.
[QUOTE]Hayward 16 pts, 4 rebs and 6 assists. Few players fill the box score like he does. He is still the focus of the defenses. He is not getting any air space. I would like to believe he will shot a higher percentage then he did a year ago, but I don
[QUOTE]Snyder then said he
[QUOTE]"We just got to get that focus on the defensive end," said Jazz forward Derrick Favors, who led the way for Utah with 17 points and 11 rebounds on the night. "We did a good job with it in the preseason. I think that got to our heads a little bit. We thought we were a good defensive team and now reality set in. We need to start from scratch and get that focus."[/QUOTE]
Yeah I thought it was funny that they kept comparing pre-season numbers with last season like it was comparable. Looks like the same old Jazz with the problems I expected them to have going in with the roster that they have. Quinn was the wildcard but stars win more than coaches do.
[QUOTE]Certainly, these are two teams in very different places.
The Mavericks have re-tooled around Dirk Nowitzki and Monta Ellis, hoping to contend for a championship. They’ve added a dynamic forward in Chandler Parsons, and brought back center Tyson Chandler and guard J.J. Barea, two key members of the team’s last title run.
The Jazz, meanwhile, are rebuilding and relearning. The lessons have been hard ones early on.
Nowitzki, who matched Parsons for a game high 21 points, opened the night by draining a 17-foot jumpshot and the Mavs never trailed from there. Ellis sliced to the rim en route to 14 points. Chandler, meanwhile, caught lobs and dunked seemingly at will over the Jazz defense.
Former Jazz man Devin Harris made the lead 20 with a free throw early in the second quarter. Then it was Harris again, this time with a 3-pointer, that gave the Mavs a 65-35 lead late in the second quarter.
"The way we came out … there just wasn’t enough resistance," Snyder said. "The way we started the game, you’re just not going to be able to overcome that kind of effort."
The coach called an early timeout to try to rally his troops, who were on the wrong end of a back-to-back. His message: "Wake up."
"There were a lot of timeouts like that," Snyder said.
It took until the third quarter before that happened for the Jazz.
"We can get better, especially defensively," said forward Trevor Booker, who finished with nine points and five rebounds off the bench. "Tonight we showed we could hang with Dallas in the second half. It was just the first half that pretty much killed us."
In the third quarter, Utah managed to trim the lead down to 14 twice behind a 15-point night from guard Alec Burks and a franchise record 35 attempts from 3 as a team. [/QUOTE]
They are going to shoot 3's. How well they do it remains to be seen.
[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward and Trey Burke added 16 points apiece, as all five Jazz starters hit double-figures on the night.
But the comeback soon dissolved.
Again, Snyder pointed to defense as the issue.
"When your defense doesn’t generate anything for you, it makes the game harder," he said. "And when you’re fragmented on defense, there’s an inclination for individual guys to get it back. That may work for a minute, it may work for a possession or two, but you’re not going to be able to sustain offense over a period of time unless we play more collectively."
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[QUOTE]Ingles, a small forward, was cut by the Clippers last weekend, flew to Utah on Monday after being claimed off of waivers and then participated in the only practice he
[QUOTE]Harris has thrived in Dallas as the team's third guard, a role that is probably perfect at this juncture in his career.[/QUOTE]
I thought he could have been good in that role in Utah. Unfortunately he started.
[QUOTE]Up next: Utah returns home to the confines of EnergySolutions Arena on Saturday as it goes against the Phoenix Suns. Led by former Jazz player and assistant coach Jeff Hornacek, Phoenix was last season's big surprise.
David Smith provides instant analysis for Deseret News' Utah Jazz coverage. He works for LDS Philanthropies and also writes for Salt City Hoops (ESPN's Jazz affiliate). He can be reached at [email]mechakucha1@gmail.com[/email] or on Twitter at davidjsmith1232.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Jazz guard Alec Burks' contract extension -- 4 years, $42M (up to $45M with incentives) -- has been finalized, per sources. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
Jody Genessy: There are no options on Alec Burks' four-year deal, which begins in 2015-16. He made it clear to the Jazz that he wants to play in Utah. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
David Locke: The extension for Alec Burks starts in 15-16 so depending on the smoothing of the cap it might be 1 year over pay 3 year under pay Twitter @Lockedonsports[/QUOTE]
Is it an overpay though? He's making less than Favors and Hayward and is arguably the better player. Certainly more upside.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Is it an overpay though? He's making less than Favors and Hayward and is arguably the better player. Certainly more upside.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell. Everyone said Derozen was overpaid and he proved them wrong. Reckon Burks has the talent to do the same, hopefully he keeps working at his game now that he's gotten paid.
Even more than that, I think it's a good sign that guys are signing up early, rather than testing free agency.
He likely gets more next year. With the way he plays an injury could come into play so smart of him to sign. I can definitely see him earning it. G I can never see as a max player even with a rising cap.
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Their cap space next year is already almost filled with only 13 players. Obviously there are still some variables there but I thought it was funny when they gave G all his money and said it didn't matter because they had the money to spend.
Still have Kanter to deal with. Booker looks like someone who's option you'd want to pick up. Ingles has non guaranteed money too I guess and he's looked like he might be a keeper as well not to mention Hamilton who we haven't even seen but was a rotation player last year on a good team and is only 24 himself. Ian Clark could still be in the picture as well not to mention a high lottery salary, Neto and Tomic.
Would be fine if they were ready to compete but it appears they are far from that.
[QUOTE]Pro: Scarcity of skills/position
Some of the same arguments that applied to Gordon Hayward
Jody Genessy: Alec Burks, who signed a four-year, $42 million extension, said it was a "big emphasis" for him to get the deal done before the deadline. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
Jody Genessy: Alec Burks' message to Jazz during negotiations: "I had (my agent) tell the Jazz I wanted to be here. I see something bright in the future." Twitter @DJJazzyJody
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Favors got fouled and than played soft so he wouldn't get a 2nd. With Rudy on the bench he needs to continue to play aggressive or Rudy needs to come in.
That's their play.
Looked like the same old Jazz to me. Maybe it wasn't all on Ty? They want to shoot 3's but they're not great shooters. They want to step it up defensively but I'm not sure they are very good there either.[/QUOTE]
Ty's coached these guys for most, if not all of their careers. It may take a while for them to start to break the habits that he's taught them.
Great effort from Favors and Hayward. Need better shooting from Burke & Burks than 5/20 combined from the field though.
A lot of guys with probably the best games of their lives. Favors is off to a great start. See if he makes adjustments when the scouting reports catch up with him.
Burks had an off game. Not worried about him. Burke otoh has shot bad in every game after not shooting well last year. He and Burks did bring them back last game.
Exum hitting 3's and some nice passes. Ingles looking better and better. Booker bringing it every night. Enes in the doghouse again? Evans certainly is. He can't even get garbage time. Might as well put him on the inactive roster and look to trade him. They're going to need it for roster flexibility. Ingles will be sticking around it appears and I'd guess Hamilton too. Murray who knows? I imagine he'll be headed to the Dleague in a couple weeks.
Rudy had a nice move across the lane that I haven't seen from him. He missed but a nice glimpse of his future hopefully. He's a lot of fun to watch. Very impressive what he does out there at his size.
Looked good for 3 quarters. Still going to need a full game. Suns on a back to back after disposing of the world champs.
[QUOTE]The last time Derrick had a game like this was his high school championship game when he had 38 points and 21 rebounds. Did he just realize what he is capable of accomplishing in the NBA? Derrick is in a really good place. I have thought Derrick would be the player who takes the biggest jump under Quin. Next stop is Blake and DeAndre in L.A. How does Derrick attack them? That
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[QUOTE]Facing a quick 9-2 deficit, Snyder called a timeout to gather the troops. Whatever transpired in that huddle made a big difference as Utah came back with increased tenacity and offensive flow. They turned the tables with a 31-13 finish to the quarter. Despite some torrid Phoenix runs, that start set the tone for the easy Jazz win.[/QUOTE]
Yes they were a different team after the time out.
[QUOTE]What it means: With the way the offense flowed and how the defense gathered itself after that lethargic start, it is clear that the youthful Utah roster is buying wholeheartedly into Snyder's basketball philosophies. Throughout the evening, the ball was popping, as the Jazz players continually made the extra pass. [/QUOTE]
Sometimes they have been too unselfish though.
[QUOTE]This naturally led to good shots, which they were making. The team was also running after both makes and misses. Behind his serious game face, which is now a running topic among Utah fans, Snyder had to be happy to get his first substantive taste of this team adopting his style.
Grading the performance: This was easily Utah's best outing. Derrick Favors was simply dominant, playing with extreme confidence en route to his career-high 32-point effort. In the second half, it was Gordon Hayward's turn to take over. Largely behind his third quarter, the swingman ended with 24 points and 10 caroms. While the transition defense was lacking at times, all in all, it held the Suns to a mere 41.4 percent shooting night. After firing blanks on their first seven 3-pointers, the Jazz connected on seven of their final 19 trey attempts.
Utah Jazz grade: A-
The Suns had stretches where they assumed momentum. But the overall performance was just so-so. The backcourt trio of Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas managed to shoot a combined 11 of 37 from the floor. Always potent from the perimeter, Phoenix made just seven of 31 from downtown. And they did little off the glass. Not the best evening for Hornacek and company.
Phoenix Suns grade: C
Three telling stats:
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[QUOTE]Asked if he could score 20 points and collect 10 rebounds every night, he said: "Of course, if they give me the minutes. It
[QUOTE]"He really practiced hard this morning, he was like woooosh," Snyder said zipping his finger through the air. "In our shootaround, every cut that he made was sharp. There was just an energy about his preparation for the game that carried over. He needs to play with that kind of force, if it
[QUOTE]The Suns, he said, had a mix of veterans with diverse playing experiences, whether it was forward journeyman P.J. Tucker, the resurgent Gerald Green, or the league's most improved player, Goran Dragic.[/QUOTE]
and a couple guys that played like all-stars as well. Jazz had two guys play like stars for a game. Big difference.
[QUOTE]"We've got guys that are getting a little older," Snyder said of his squad. "Alec [Burks], for instance, is one of our older guys. He's 23."
Regardless of its significance, the Jazz will enjoy their first victory-even if only for a moment.
"Quin got a game ball," forward Derrick Favors said after the win. "We celebrated for, like, 3 seconds. We congratulated him and that was it. Time to move on."
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Yes they were a different team after the time out.
Sometimes they have been too unselfish though.[/QUOTE]
Snyder mentioned in the post game presser about the unselfishness and how over passing led them passing up great shots for good shots. There's a fine line in how much is too much, but I'm sure they'll find the right balance as they progress through the season.
[QUOTE]Ben Bolch: X-rays were negative on Jamal Crawford but he is listed as doubtful for Clippers' game against Utah on Monday. Twitter @latbbolch [/QUOTE]
Shouldn't make much difference.
[QUOTE]The Adelaide 36ers have pulled off a major recruiting coup by signing recently delisted Utah Jazz player Brock Motum. Sportando[/QUOTE]
this your team?
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D-league draft:
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[QUOTE]Erik Murphy and Carrick Felix -- who went #3 and #4 in the draft. There are plenty of people you may marginally know about, either because their father was an NBA player, or the Jazz brought the player in for a pre-draft workout or in one of the free agent minicamps . . . but unless you are really crazy, then the only names you'd recognize are the Marquis Teague level ones. And only then if you follow along bench warmers on Eastern Conference NBA teams. (But if you are curious, full results here)
One of Paul Millsap 's brothers was selected, and so was one of John Stockton 's sons. So all in all, this was a pretty Jazz draft, and one that will help the Stampede get going early on in their season.[/QUOTE]