How many free passes to the finals are Lebron's teams going to get?

After the Drose injury there is no other serious competition in the east.

Lets be real, Wizards, Hawks and Raps are all pretender

He's at 5 in a row now, he may get to 10 of the culture of the east doesnt change.

This is why his nickname is LeAsterisk.

Seriously if Bran played in the West how many finals appearances does he get?

I'd say 1 at max in 2012

A terrible thing happens to a great player and all you can think about is pushing your anti-Lebron James agenda.

Grow the **** up and prioritize your life you worthless bitch.

[QUOTE=KDthunderup]Seriously if Bran played in the West how many finals appearances does he get?

I'd say 1 at max in 2012[/QUOTE]
Depends on what team he's on.

[QUOTE=lilteapot]A terrible thing happens to a great player and all you can think about is pushing your anti-Lebron James agenda.

Grow the **** up and prioritize your life you worthless bitch.[/QUOTE]
Why you so pissed?

Its a serious question? i dont dislike lebron that much, i have his shoes.

Lebron does seem to have some relatively good fortune. especially when you compare it to that of the rest of the NBA

Um, did you watch Derrick Rose this year?

I feel bad for the guy, but I don't think this really changes anything in the East. Bulls go from pretender to not really being a factor at all.

5 Finals Appearances and only 2 rings, rofl what a joke

No excuses now.

[QUOTE=lilteapot]A terrible thing happens to a great player and all you can think about is pushing your anti-Lebron James agenda.

Grow the **** up and prioritize your life you worthless bitch.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=christian1923]Its a serious question? i dont dislike lebron that much, i have his shoes.[/QUOTE]
:roll:

[QUOTE=Taller than CP3]5 Finals Appearances and only 2 rings, rofl what a joke[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Um, did you watch Derrick Rose this year?

I feel bad for the guy, but I don't think this really changes anything in the East.[/QUOTE]
He was playing well in the weeks leading up to the all star break, he dropped that 30 burger on Cleveland. They would have been the favorites against Cleveland in a series.

[QUOTE=christian1923]He was playing well in the weeks leading up to the all star break, he dropped that 30 burger on Cleveland. They would have been the favorites against Cleveland in a series.[/QUOTE]

Post trade Cleveland? Absolutely not.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Post trade Cleveland? Absolutely not.[/QUOTE]
Why? Cause they can win regular season games? Have you seen Kyrie, Love, play a playoff game?

Don't fall for the hype so soon.

considering that he played with a hobbled wade for last 2 years at least.....i call it even.
this is part of the nba. ibaka was injured in 2 games last year against the spurs.
westbrook was injured in 2013.
according to your logic, spurs have been even luckier because their 2 finals appearances but that is just not how it works because spurs lost to grizzlies when manu was injured. it is a part of the game. miami fans can easily say that if wade was even 2012 level healthy, they would have been a different team last season.

OP doing damage control already. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=christian1923]Why? Cause they can win regular season games? Have you seen Kyrie, Love, play a playoff game?

Don't fall for the hype so soon.[/QUOTE]

I'm not...I'd take most western playoff teams over them. But they play in the East. Trust me, the Bulls weren't that big of a threat.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]I'm not...I'd take most western playoff teams over them. But they play in the East. Trust me, the Bulls weren't that big of a threat.[/QUOTE]
I can't trust you on this one big dawg. I think you're way off on this one.

[QUOTE=Lebron23]Lebron > Knicks franchise.


PS:

You are an ugly looking black guy. No pretty Boy Swag, No Pretty Boy Looks.[/QUOTE]

There's NOOOOO WAY your girl is at all satisfied with your Filipino fun size weewee. She'll be more excited to see me then Cleveland fans were in July 2014.

[QUOTE=christian1923]There's NOOOOO WAY your girl is at all satisfied with your Filipino fun size weewee. She'll be more excited to see me then Cleveland fans were in July 2014.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:

LeBron fam going down one by one.

Bring that ass here boy!!!!

[QUOTE=christian1923]There's NOOOOO WAY your girl is at all satisfied with your Filipino fun size weewee. She'll be more excited to see me then Cleveland fans were in July 2014.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:

To answer question he's had free passes his whole career.. the east has been considerably weaker than the west every year since 2004 except one year. And it's factual in the numbers. And it just got weaker when it was looking decent.

Damn Rose is injured again? :biggums:

I was just watching Cleveland vs. Detroit on DVR and avoided ISH/NBA.com to not see spoilers for the game.

Honestly thought this thread was a bump from 2012 or something. Tore his meniscus again?

[QUOTE=tpols]:oldlol:

To answer question he's had free passes his whole career.. the east has been considerably weaker than the west every year since 2004 except one year. And it's factual in the numbers. And it just got weaker when it was looking decent.[/QUOTE]
just goes to show how weak that miami team was other than lebron since 2013 given that they couldn't get to .500 as soon as he left and they play in this same conference you are calling shit.
this also proves that magic was way inferior to bird.
west was weak during most of magic's peak and at least east played elite defense in last 10 years which couldn't be said about 80s west.
Why do you hate magic when you are a lakers fan?

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]just goes to show how weak that miami team was other than lebron since 2013 given that they couldn't get to .500 as soon as he left and they play in this same conference you are calling shit.
this also proves that magic was way inferior to bird.
west was weak during most of magic's peak and at least east played elite defense in last 10 years which couldn't be said about 80s west.
Why do you hate magic when you are a lakers fan?[/QUOTE]

Heat didn't face one 50 win team in 2013.. the east won 39% of games vs the west in 2014 and the best team Indy imploded right before the playoffs. It was all time bad.Heat could've had Brandon Jennings as the second option and they still would be been at an advantage lol..

magic had a winning record in the finals.. and was a ruthless competitor and alpha.. lmao at comparing him to LeBron James.

I still laugh at how many of you guys talk about finals record, as if it's actually a good argument. Say LeBron missed the finals every year besides 12, and 13, and was 2-0 in the finals... Does that really make his resume look better than making the finals 4 times in a row and missing 2? You really think losing early in the playoffs makes someone's resume better just because they didn't lose in the finals? Such a horseshit argument that people on ISH cling onto so hard.

And people acting like the Heat wouldn't win their rings in 2012 or 2013 if they were in the West... the Heat beat the "elite" WCF champ OKC in 5 games, where they were taken to 7 games against Boston in 2012. And let's not forget that the Heat had a 25-5 record against the West in 2013. The Spurs only lost 3 games in the West playoffs, and the Heat were able to beat them in 7... so I'm not seeing the logic behind saying those teams who couldn't beat the Spurs would beat the Heat.

And of course all of this isn't accounting for the fact that Riley would build the team differently if they were in the West since each conference plays a different style of ball.

[QUOTE=J Shuttlesworth]I still laugh at how many of you guys talk about finals record, as if it's actually a good argument. Say LeBron missed the finals every year besides 12, and 13, and was 2-0 in the finals... Does that really make his resume look better than making the finals 4 times in a row and missing 2? You really think losing early in the playoffs makes someone's resume better just because they didn't lose in the finals? Such a horseshit argument that people on ISH cling onto so hard.

And people acting like the Heat wouldn't win their rings in 2012 or 2013 if they were in the West... the Heat beat the "elite" WCF champ OKC in 5 games, where they were taken to 7 games against Boston in 2012. And let's not forget that the Heat had a 25-5 record against the West in 2013. The Spurs only lost 3 games in the West playoffs, and the Heat were able to beat them in 7... so I'm not seeing the logic behind saying those teams who couldn't beat the Spurs would beat the Heat.

And of course all of this isn't accounting for the fact that Riley would build the team differently if they were in the West since each conference plays a different style of ball.[/QUOTE]

The point is the guy I quoted was talking how magic had cakewalk to the finals just like lebron has.

And I pointed out that while that may be true magic won in the finals more often than not proving that despite the easy roads he was still able to lead his team to victory against tough finals opponents from the stronger conference most of the time. Lebron was not.


And it wouldn't have mattered if the Heat were built differently.. what kind of bull shit is that? You would've had slightly different role players lol.. you still would've been stomped out early in a bunch of years and been worn down over the course of multiple hard series instead of having free rounds every year.

Thread filed in "LeBron voodoo case files".

[QUOTE=lilteapot]A terrible thing happens to a great player and all you can think about is pushing your anti-Lebron James agenda.

Grow the **** up and prioritize your life you worthless bitch.[/QUOTE]

lol everything is lebron to these fools.

[QUOTE=tpols]The point is the guy I quoted was talking how magic had cakewalk to the finals just like lebron has.

And I pointed out that while that may be true magic won in the finals more often than not proving that despite the easy roads he was still able to lead his team to victory against tough finals opponents from the stronger conference most of the time. Lebron was not.


And it wouldn't have mattered if the Heat were built differently.. what kind of bull shit is that? You would've had slightly different role players lol.. you still would've been stomped out early in a bunch of years and been worn down over the course of multiple hard series instead of having free rounds every year.[/QUOTE]

I love when some people turn their opinions into factual evidence to back up their arguments. What kind of proof do you have that the Heat would have lost if they were in the West?

[QUOTE=Lebron23]I have a bigger dick than you. I'll pm it to you later.[/QUOTE]



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Lets be real Bulls wouldnt make the ECF even if Rose didnt get injured.

They are pretenders and always will be

They should tank and draft Jahlil Okafor whos another hometown guy.


He doesnt seem injury prone either for a big man

[QUOTE=tpols]

And it wouldn't have mattered if the Heat were built differently.. what kind of bull shit is that? You would've had slightly different role players lol.. you still would've been stomped out early in a bunch of years and been worn down over the course of multiple hard series instead of having free rounds every year.[/QUOTE]
Yet at the same time, you don't have to face overly physical teams like Indiana and Chicago. GSW, OKC, SAS, LAC... none of those teams have players that really beat you up inside the paint like Indiana or Chicago did. Memphis did, but that's the only team in the West. And if the Heat had San Antonio's playoff schedule in 2013, they'd be facing the Kobe-less lakers in the West which is about as easy of a first round as it gets.

And people forget how Riley built the team. It goes beyond roster, but the playstyle was vastly different than most teams in the West. The dude literally ignored the idea of offensive rebounds because getting back on defense was the most important thing. In the west, they would probably have to get a legit center since Howard, Gasol, Duncan, etc were all elite players you might have to play all playoffs long. Riley got away with playing Bosh at C and using fast breaks/steals to wear out teams like Indiana/Chicago.

I'm not trying to deny that the Heat wouldn't make the finals 4 straight times, but to say they wouldn't win it all in 2012 and 13 doesn't make any sense.

Lets be real: Rose being hurt doesn't make Chicago that much worse...if at all

Bulls actually scare me more now. Mr. 6 percent would have made things too easy for Lebron, but now players who can actually shoot will be getting a lot more shots.

Considering the FACT that LeBron play better against the WC teams, than the EC teams, he'd make it to the Finals pretty easily if he's on a good team (in the WC).

Oh, and it haven't been following the Heat since 2012, you might've missed the FACT that the better players on the team have been constantly injured.

[QUOTE=edrick]I love when some people turn their opinions into factual evidence to back up their arguments. What kind of proof do you have that the Heat would have lost if they were in the West?[/QUOTE]

Because they were literally one shot away from losing in 2013 while not having to face a single team through three rounds capable of mustering 50 wins?

Dwayne wade got cort shots for the finals and was able to save himself for that tough series.. if the heat were out west they would've seen Memphis in the second round.. a roided up version of the pacers that they didn't see until the third round in the east. That would've been very hard to win without wade being healthy. Then they would've seen the spurs next round. 2012 would've been tougher as well especially with Bosh going down in a conference stacked with better frontlines and teams. Would've been much more difficult for them to win.

The west has had a 58% to 42% average over the east during Miami's four trips to the finals.. every round has been loaded with competitive teams while in the east you're playing anywhere from 25 to 50 percent of the playoffs against teams with losing records and or crippled lineups. It's not far fetched to assume they would win less.. it actually makes perfect sense.

[QUOTE=Crimsonrain777]Lebron does seem to have some relatively good fortune. especially when you compare it to that of the rest of the NBA[/QUOTE]
I was thinking about that too, obviously it isn't Bran's fault but gotdamn he has a horse shoe the size of Wisconsin up his ass with all the injuries to East contending teams that have made his trips to the Finals a tad bit easier.

[QUOTE=J Shuttlesworth]Yet at the same time, you don't have to face overly physical teams like Indiana and Chicago. GSW, OKC, SAS, LAC... none of those teams have players that really beat you up inside the paint like Indiana or Chicago did. Memphis did, but that's the only team in the West. And if the Heat had San Antonio's playoff schedule in 2013, they'd be facing the Kobe-less lakers in the West which is about as easy of a first round as it gets.

And people forget how Riley built the team. It goes beyond roster, but the playstyle was vastly different than most teams in the West. The dude literally ignored the idea of offensive rebounds because getting back on defense was the most important thing. In the west, they would probably have to get a legit center since Howard, Gasol, Duncan, etc were all elite players you might have to play all playoffs long. Riley got away with playing Bosh at C and using fast breaks/steals to wear out teams like Indiana/Chicago.

I'm not trying to deny that the Heat wouldn't make the finals 4 straight times, but to say they wouldn't win it all in 2012 and 13 doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]
Ever since you had Joel Anthony the number one need always talked about was getting a center. You guys tried for years and actually came up with one who played amazing in 2013.. Birdman was talked as being the second best heat player out east. But There's not much Riley could've gotten to combat the west centers.. He tried desperately to get one to combat hibbert Noah west and Boozer but centers were in extremely short supply back then.. and he couldn't find one.