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SIX Straight Finals Appearances Is A Major Accomplishment
Its not as if there haven't been down years in conferences over the years. The 86-87 Lakers are considered one of the greatest teams ever. Their playoff run to the Finals was a 37 win team, a 42 win team and in the conference Finals a 40 win team. Yes, they beat a 40-42 team to go to the NBA Finals.
Magic and Kareem should have done (6 straight) it but they somehow lost to a 40 win team in the playoffs in Magic's second year. They had another chance to do it but lost to a team starting Rodney McCray, Robert Reid, and Lewis Lloyd (in 5 games at that).
The last time a player went to the NBA Finals 6 years in a row was the 61-66 Celtics. When that streak started there were EIGHT teams in the NBA and the top two teams got a bye into the Conf Finals. So the year that streak started the only thing the Celtics had to do to get to the Finals was beat a 38-41 Syracuse team.
Can you imagine what the Kobestans would say if the NBA gave Cle a bye to the Conf Finals and even then he only had to beat a sub .500 team? Well that's the ONLY GUYS THAT HAVE EVER DONE WHAT HE HAS DONE.
So pardon me while I say **** off to the folks that want to downplay this achievement. Would it be more impressive if it were done through the west? OF COURSE. Is it still impressive? OF COURSE.
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not if you play in the east and actively colluded
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So now it has come to celebrating Finals appearances instead of Finals wins. :facepalm
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he would've came out the west 2 times at best, the last 6 years.
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an achievement that showcases collusion and short-cutting if anything.
Pathetic.
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What makes LeBron's accomplishment truly special in particular is that fact that he has essentially done it with supporting casts that wouldn't even make the playoffs without him.
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Difference is Magic actually won more than half of the finals he made, making the "conference disparity" argument weak.
Now do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up.
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Y'all wanna give him a pass for losing the Finals but give him all the credit & celebrate him for making the Finals. he would've came out the west 2 times at best, the last 6 years.
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[QUOTE=G-Funk]he would've came out the west 2 times at best, the last 6 years.[/QUOTE]
So he beat the best team in the west twice but somehow he would have made it out of the west less.
Ok. Sounds reasonable.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]an achievement that showcases collusion and short-cutting if anything.
Pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Exactly maybe if he would've stayed with one team it would've been half decent.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Difference is Magic actually won more than half of the finals he made, making the "conference disparity" argument weak.
Now do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up.[/QUOTE]
He also lost to a 40 win team in the playoffs. WITH the 2nd GOAT.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Difference is Magic actually won more than half of the finals he made, making the "conference disparity" argument weak.
Now do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up.[/QUOTE]
He also had Kareem, Worthy and the boys!
LeBron had Wade, for maybe 2 good seasons before his knees went bust
Bosh? PLEASE.
Love? PUHHHH-LEASE.
Irving? PLEAZE.
The truth is Love, Bosh and Irving are just not that good
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[QUOTE=Phong]So now it has come to celebrating Finals appearances instead of Finals wins. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Finals apperences are the new championships.
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[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]He also lost to a 40 win team in the playoffs. WITH the 2nd GOAT.[/QUOTE]
Great, a non sequitur. :confusedshrug:
I'll play along though.
LeBron, on THE most stacked team relative to competition and era, got outplayed in the finals by multiple role players including JJ Barea.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]He also had Kareem, Worthy and the boys!
LeBron had Wade, for maybe 2 good seasons before his knees went bust
Bosh? PLEASE.
Love? PUHHHH-LEASE.
Irving? PLEAZE.
The truth is Love, Bosh and Irving are just not that good[/QUOTE]
Prime Grade-A trolling right here, boys. :applause:
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[QUOTE=Phong]So now it has come to celebrating Finals appearances instead of Finals wins. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Finals wins are clearly >>>>>>>>>
But consistent excellence is still really really impressive. That some of you don't get that is mind blowing.
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[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]Finals wins are clearly >>>>>>>>>
But consistent excellence is still really really impressive. That some of you don't get that is mind blowing.[/QUOTE]
They're irrelevant
Haters in the crowd
Not important
ESPN and SI got LeBron ranked top 5 already
The general consensus is in
Word of the street
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]He also had Kareem, Worthy and the boys!
LeBron had Wade, for maybe 2 good seasons before his knees went bust
Bosh? PLEASE.
Love? PUHHHH-LEASE.
Irving? PLEAZE.
The truth is Love, Bosh and Irving are just not that good[/QUOTE]
let's be fair Magic also faced more stacked teams in the Finals. I mean the weakest team he faced might be the Dr. J Sixers. On the other side, I think 80's West is even weaker than the East now. Showtime Lakers might also be the only team where you could argue they made the Finals 9/12 seasons and still "underachieved". The 3 losses in the playoffs were all with HCA.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Non sequitur.
But I'll play.
LeBron, on the most STACKED team of all-time relative to competition and era, got outplayed by multiple role players, including JJ Barea.[/QUOTE]
Most stacked team ever? They had 5 players not making the league min and two of them missed the season with injuries. More than half their minutes went to players making the league min. Top 2/3 players were obviously great but there was nothing around them. AT ALL.
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it is a major accomplishment. but for this drama queen named lebron james who colludes in the east, boasts about winning not one, not two or three, flops, whines and bitches out in the clutch, it's really hard to find it in your heart to give him credit or respect.
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[QUOTE=diamenz]it is a major accomplishment. but for this drama queen named lebron james who colludes in the east, boasts about winning not one, not two or three, flops, whines and bitches out in the clutch, it's really hard to find it in your heart to give him credit or respect.[/QUOTE]
It is a great accomplishment, but how great is what's being discussed here.
LeBron fellators are celebrating the "feat" like they're damn championships. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Phong]So now it has come to celebrating Finals appearances instead of Finals wins. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Busting out the Phong account.
Shit just got real!
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[QUOTE=Indian guy]What makes LeBron's accomplishment truly special in particular is that fact that he has essentially done it with supporting casts that wouldn't even make the playoffs without him.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
A Wade and Bosh team when they were near their primes wouldn't make the playoffs? Irving and Love wouldn't make the playoffs?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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MJ 6/6 and the greatest of all time. Lebron is 2/6 and soon will be 2/7
Losing is not an accomplishment.
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[QUOTE=Indian guy]What makes LeBron's accomplishment truly special in particular is that fact that he has essentially done it with supporting casts that wouldn't even make the playoffs without him.[/QUOTE]
And what makes your post truly pathetic is the fact that you might actually believe it.
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[QUOTE=STATUTORY]not if you play in the east and actively colluded[/QUOTE]
LeBron* fans will NEVER admit this.
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He got to the finals on a $190 million roster on a pathetic low talented conference.
Amazing stuff :applause:
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[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]He got to the finals on a $190 million roster on a pathetic low talented conference.
Amazing stuff :applause:[/QUOTE]
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Can't wait to read what the next loss brings. The sky is falling.
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It's impressive but as mentioned, this streak clearly requires context.
*He's ALWAYS had the best team in the east.
*Aside from the Bulls, Celtics and Pacers who the hell has he really beaten of significance? - arguably tier 2 teams in the west
So while it is impressive, it's nothing really all that mind shattering.
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He's been the Western conferences stepping stone/punching bag for years and will continue to be for the next decade. Definitely his biggest accomplishment though:lol
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Eh...I hate Lebron but it is a legit accomplishment. Sorry guys.
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Only Lecramp fans thinking being in second place is a good thing. :facepalm
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No, it isn't. Not in this case. Not with that colluding.
And people like you are only trying to convince yourselves because not even you believe a colluded/stacked roster winning that shit conference is an achievement.
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[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]let's be fair Magic also faced more stacked teams in the Finals. I mean the weakest team he faced might be the Dr. J Sixers. On the other side, I think 80's West is even weaker than the East now. [B]Showtime Lakers might also be the only team where you could argue they made the Finals 9/12 seasons and still "underachieved"[/B]. The 3 losses in the playoffs were all with HCA.[/QUOTE]
When the "how many 50 win teams ______has beaten" graph gets posted, it has Magic down I believe with 13.
Dude played in 9 Finals and only beat 13...50+ win teams? Which obvious includes the 5 Finals teams they beat.
That' s pretty bad
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Never once heard anyone praising Magic for making NBA finals and calling it a major accomplishment, not once.
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The East has been weak while the West has been brutal. Look at LAC/SAS in the first round last year. How many Finals would Lebron make if he were in the West?