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Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
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Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks was named the winner of the Maurice Podoloff Trophy as the NBA’s Most Valuable Player for the 2006-07 season, the NBA announced today.
Full voting results for the award are below.
The nine-year NBA veteran totaled 1,138 points, including 83 first place votes, from a panel of 129 sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Players were awarded 10 points for each first-place vote, seven points for each second-place vote, five for third, three for fourth and one for each fifth-place vote received.
Rounding out the top five in voting for MVP were Phoenix’s Steve Nash (1,013 points/44 first-place votes), the Los Angeles Lakers’ Kobe Bryant (521 points/two first-place votes), San Antonio’s Tim Duncan (286 points) and Cleveland’s LeBron James (183 points).
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Seems fair, same top 5 I would have picked if I had a vote.
Well might have Duncan over Kobe, but could go either way.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Wow, I really thought Duncan was going to finish 3rd in the voting.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
And that should have also been 1st Team All NBA.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Ok thats fine I agree except I would switch Nash and Dirk around and give it to nash but thats ok Dirk (even though I really don't like him) Deserves it if you don't give it to nash.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
i'm surprised kobe, tim, and bron were so far behind dirk and steve. anybody think someone else should have made the top five instead of those guys? tmac maybe? just wondering.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
disgraceful.
nothing short of disgraceful.
Dirk. :rolleyes:
it gets funnier and funnier by the day, too, as we watch GS get their asses handed to them by the 5th seeded Jazz and Nash play like more of a warrior each night. honestly, next game I expect him to get his right hand chopped off 5 minutes before tip off and end up with 22/13 and the win.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Congrats, Dirk. You're the man!
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Where is Amare Stoudemire? That is why Tim Duncan should be listed as a Center instead of a PF so that Lebron will be an NBA first team.
Anyway, Congratulations Dirk but the Cavaliers might have a huge chance playing in the NBA Finals while you are at home watching in your Tivo.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Dirk did deserve it...but it's hillarious how all the articles discussing it are 50% dedicated his first round flameout and what a disgrace it is for MVP to be that big of a choker. About as Pyrrhic a victory as winning that sort of award could be.
I might have had T-Mac in the fifth place but that list is hard to argue with.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
[QUOTE=Valliant13]Dirk did deserve it...but it's hillarious how all the articles discussing it are 50% dedicated his first round flameout and what a disgrace it is for MVP to be that big of a choker. About as Pyrrhic a victory as winning that sort of award could be.
I might have had T-Mac in the fifth place but that list is hard to argue with.[/QUOTE]
Tracy Mcgrady is a big time choker than Dirk Nowitski the guy never make it in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs.
You cannot get Lebron out of that lists because among those top 5 he has the chance to make it in the NBA Finals and mybe the Cavaliers will the help of God and some suprising luck might win the NBA Championship and Bron as Finals MVP.
Then nexts year Lebron will not play for the USA TEAM so that he can concentrate his time in winning his 1st of many Maurice Podoloff Trophy.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
"Tracy Mcgrady is a big time choker than Dirk Nowitski the guy never make it in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs.
You cannot get Lebron out of that lists because among those top 5 he has the chance to make it in the NBA Finals"
Regular season award.
How they do in the playoffs has nothing to do with who deserved to win.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
[QUOTE=Valliant13]"Tracy Mcgrady is a big time choker than Dirk Nowitski the guy never make it in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs.
You cannot get Lebron out of that lists because among those top 5 he has the chance to make it in the NBA Finals"
Regular season award.
How they do in the playoffs has nothing to do with who deserved to win.[/QUOTE]
Lebron James 27/7/6, Another 50 wins in the regular season with an average coach and a mediocre supporting casts.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
I'm really surprised Bron got neither a 1st nor a 2nd place vote.
MVP is deserved for Dirk
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Voting results seem pretty good, though I don't understand why Duncan is so far behind Kobe, or that he got no 1st place votes (I would have expected at leasta couple).
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
[quote]Dirk did deserve it...[/quote]
Tim Duncan deserved it, just like he's deserved it every year since... around 03? he's deserved it every year because he's the most valuable player in the NBA. if you switch Duncan and Nash... Suns improve. switch Duncan and Kobe... Lakers improve. Duncan and Dirk? no brainer.
it's not an issue of deserving it. it's an issue of earning it, and no they aren't the same thing. and Dirk didn't earn it either.
yes the award is called "Regular Season Most Valuable Player." but explain to me how you can claim rigid boundaries for the first two words and not rigid boundaries for the rest? you can't argue with my assertion that the award is not always given to the most valuable player in the NBA; it's obviously not, that's why Duncan's only got 2 and Shaq 1. so why can't we stretch the boundaries on the other side of the award a little bit in extreme circumstances? and yes, Dirk putting on the most disgraceful, embarassing display in the history of American sports is an extreme circumstance. the award has to be given to someone else. it has to. if we can steal Duncans award every damn season and give it to someone else for the sake of variety and profits (the Suns/Mavs showdown was the highest rated regular season game in years, and why? because the individual showdown of "the only" MVP candidates was marketed to death and everyone bought in), then we can allow Dirk to gleefully give it away like he did the series against Golden State.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Oh, and congrats to Bosh for finishing 7th in MVP voting! What a season, what a future.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE]MVP = regular season award given out based on performance. Production + Team success is often the criteria used. Also "Best player on the BEST team" applies as well. The playoffs have no and I repeat no affect nor barring on who wins MVP or should have won MVP. Thats a fact. Stick with facts and not opinions, uneducated ones at that. The MVP voting is decided before one playoff game is played. After additional season ending awards are given out the MVP is always given out in May either the first or 2nd week in May. History proves/supports this. [/QUOTE]
So anyone who has trouble following the above is in denial and wants to run/operate and create the rules to thier liking. Thats why your arguments wony be taken seriously. So you either get in tune with what is the common theme here or continue pumping out meaningless jargon swearing by the lord above you speak facts. You speak nonsense. Now you wanna argue one strong candidate vs another? Fine, but the minute you use the playoffs as support you lose. Period.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
i have no respect for the nba mvp award anymore.
it's supposed to be prestigious and elite.
i just can't put dirk in the same category as the jordans, hakeems, magics, or birds, real mvps who play like champions.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Thats the way I would have gone too.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]I'm really surprised Bron got neither a 1st nor a 2nd place vote.
MVP is deserved for Dirk[/QUOTE]
LeBRon does not have the same respect that NBA are giving to Nash, Kobe and Dirk, so expect LeBron James to tune the band in Game 5 and end the Series.
I think his BEST STATEMENT is to win the NBA Championship and Finals MVP this Year.
AN MVP without an NBA Championship is not as Sweet as winning an NBA Championship and becoming League MVP.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=DCL]i just can't put dirk in the same category as the jordans, hakeems, magics, or birds, real mvps who play like champions.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with this. But what is worse is that if Nash would of won it then he would have had 3 straight and no way does he belong in the same catogory as Bird, Russel and Chamberlain.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
"yes the award is called "Regular Season Most Valuable Player." but explain to me how you can claim rigid boundaries for the first two words and not rigid boundaries for the rest? "
Because "Most Valuable" is an inherently subjective term;
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]I completely agree with this. But what is worse is that if Nash would of won it then he would have had 3 straight and no way does he belong in the same catogory as Bird, Russel and Chamberlain.[/QUOTE]
nash winning 3 straight.... yes, that would probably be even more ridiculous.
shaq only got 1 stinking mvp.
but anyway, i miss the days when mvps deserved their awards and proved their worth. mvps carry their teams no matter what. they make their opponents adjust to their game because they're just unstoppoble. dirk is far from this category.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=DCL]i have no respect for the nba mvp award anymore.
it's supposed to be prestigious and elite.
i just can't put dirk in the same category as the jordans, hakeems, magics, or birds, real mvps who play like champions.[/QUOTE]
How about with Nash, AI, DRob, KG, Barkley, etc...guys who got to the finals (almost in KG and Nash's cases) being the leader of their teams but didn't win anything. AI hasn't done any damage in the playoffs since, even being in a weak East, then having a hell of a team to play with this past year. KG hasn't done anything since Latrell and Sam. Barkley made the Finals once and got knocked out by Jordan. Robinson only won a title when paired with the greatest power forward of our generation right next to him.
If Dirk makes it to the finals, and has always had team success in the regular season (more than a lot of these guys can say) and makes the playoffs year in-year out, how does that make him a bad MVP choice?
Of course if you compare Dirk to the all time greats to ever play the game, he'll look bad. You listed arguably 5 of the top 6-10 players to ever play the game of basketball. Dirk doesn't compare? Who cares? How many actually do?
Stupid logic on your part. Think before typing.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[quote=Lebron23]LeBRon does not have the same respect that NBA are giving to Nash, Kobe and Dirk, so expect LeBron James to tune the band in Game 5 and end the Series.
I think his BEST STATEMENT is to win the NBA Championship and Finals MVP this Year.
[/quote] :oldlol: his best statement? As if he can just decide to win the NBA Finals to prove a point? Give me a break.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]How about with Nash, AI, DRob, KG, Barkley, etc...guys who got to the finals (almost in KG and Nash's cases) being the leader of their teams but didn't win anything. AI hasn't done any damage in the playoffs since, even being in a weak East, then having a hell of a team to play with this past year. KG hasn't done anything since Latrell and Sam. Barkley made the Finals once and got knocked out by Jordan. Robinson only won a title when paired with the greatest power forward of our generation right next to him.
If Dirk makes it to the finals, and has always had team success in the regular season (more than a lot of these guys can say) and makes the playoffs year in-year out, how does that make him a bad MVP choice?
Of course if you compare Dirk to the all time greats to ever play the game, he'll look bad. You listed arguably 5 of the top 6-10 players to ever play the game of basketball. Dirk doesn't compare? Who cares? How many actually do?
Stupid logic on your part. Think before typing.[/QUOTE]
When is the last time that Steve Nash makes it in the NBA Finals? I might be sleeping then and mybe dreaming because as far as i remember Steve Nash never played in an NBA Finals Game.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]How about with Nash, AI, DRob, KG, Barkley, etc...guys who got to the finals (almost in KG and Nash's cases) being the leader of their teams but didn't win anything. AI hasn't done any damage in the playoffs since, even being in a weak East, then having a hell of a team to play with this past year. KG hasn't done anything since Latrell and Sam. Barkley made the Finals once and got knocked out by Jordan. Robinson only won a title when paired with the greatest power forward of our generation right next to him.
If Dirk makes it to the finals, and has always had team success in the regular season (more than a lot of these guys can say) and makes the playoffs year in-year out, how does that make him a bad MVP choice?
Of course if you compare Dirk to the all time greats to ever play the game, he'll look bad. You listed arguably 5 of the top 6-10 players to ever play the game of basketball. Dirk doesn't compare? Who cares? How many actually do?
Stupid logic on your part. Think before typing.[/QUOTE]
it's not just where you lose, but how you lose.
dirk was pathetic. had a 67 win season, and choked in the first round against a small defense. totally invisible when the team needed him the most, running away scared, being a nonfactor.
all those other mvps had achieved more and didn't have embarrassing series.
dirk was completely embarrassed in the first round by an 8th seed.
out of all mvps, dirk had the worst post-season performance in the last 25 years.
if you disagree, name another.
you can't.
so you should just be quiet, son.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=Lebron23]When is the last time that Steve Nash makes it in the NBA Finals? I might be sleeping then and mybe dreaming because as far as i remember Steve Nash never played in an NBA Finals Game.[/QUOTE]
If you can show me where I said Nash played in the finals, I'll be impressed.
Read closer tool.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=DCL]it's not just where you lose, but how you lose.
dirk was pathetic. had a 67 win season, and choked in the first round against a small defense. totally invisible when the team needed him the most, running away scared, being a nonfactor.
all those other mvps had achieved more and didn't have embarrassing series.
dirk was completely embarrassed in the first round by an 8th seed.
out of all mvps, dirk had the worst post-season performance in the last 25 years.
if you disagree, name another.
you can't.
so you should just be quiet, son.[/QUOTE]
True that statement is True :cheers:
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=DCL]it's not just where you lose, but how you lose.
dirk was pathetic. had a 67 win season, and choked in the first round against a small defense.
all those other mvps had achieved more and didn't have embarrassing series.
dirk was completely embarrassed in the first round by an 8th seed.
out of all mvps, dirk had the worst post-season performance in the last 25 years.
if you disagree, name another.
you can't.
so you should just be quiet, son.[/QUOTE]
So because he won 67 games in the regular season he should be punished? Guys like KG and AI struggle to be an 8th seed. AI was very dissapointing as well. Not as much as Dirk, but this was the first year Dirk didn't play really well in the playoffs. You can bring up the finals last year, but up until the final series, Dirk looked like the best player in the NBA.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=Lebron23]True that statement is True :cheers:[/QUOTE]
You going to show me where I said Nash played in the finals?
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]If you can show me where I said Nash played in the finals, I'll be impressed.
Read closer tool.[/QUOTE]
If Steve Nash and his lame Suns never win an NBA Championship this year. I would like tool to replace that avatar of yours with a Shawn Bradley or even A Gheorge Muresan picture.
Cause your logic is as stiff as those 2 former NBA players.
:oldlol:
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=Lebron23]If Steve Nash and his lame Suns never win an NBA Championship this year. I would like tool to replace that avatar of your with a Shawn Bradley or even A Gheorge Muresan picture.
Cause your logic is as stiff as those 2 former NBA players.
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I don't even like the Suns. Do you understand English? No wonder everyone here hates you.
You said that I mentioned that Steve played in the Finals. I asked you to show me where I said that (because I didn't). You come back with this nonsense.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]So because he won 67 games in the regular season he should be punished? Guys like KG and AI struggle to be an 8th seed. AI was very dissapointing as well. Not as much as Dirk, but this was the first year Dirk didn't play really well in the playoffs. You can bring up the finals last year, but up until the final series, Dirk looked like the best player in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
kg and ai aren't mvp candidates and haven't been in a while. who are you going to name next, chris webber?
hello, it's 2007. besides, those guys didn't suck nor get embarrassed in the years they won it.
but dirk did.
so dirk had a 67 season, but then he played with so much fear under pressure. i wouldn't really care that much if he played his ass off in the first round and still lost. a lot of mvps don't even get to the finals, but at least they went down swinging hard in defeat. you just aren't supposed to get so embarrassed by your opponents like how dirk was.
mvps aren't supposed to be scared in critical moments. mvps aren't supposed to be invisible when the team needs him the most. mvps aren't supposed to say, "i think we're done if we lose the next game" when the next game isn't even the elimination match. mvps aren't supposed to ask the rest of his teammates to carry him because he is getting shut out.
however, dirk, this year's mvp, was all of those.
WORSE MVP post season performance in the last 25 years. dirk tainted the award beyond all possibilities.
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]I don't even like the Suns. Do you understand English? No wonder everyone here hates you.
You said that I mentioned that Steve played in the Finals. I asked you to show me where I said that (because I didn't). You come back with this nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Check your posts again littleman you type a sentence which state that KG. Nash and Blah, Blah, Blah make it in the NBA Finals and then you have this (parenthesis) that many poster will never even care to read.
So i never seen that little post of yours. :cry:
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
Lebron James dead last?? i'm surprised because he is carryin the Cavs... and some of the other candidates have some good players around them.. keep workin lebron..
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5t
[QUOTE=DCL]nash winning 3 straight.... yes, that would probably be even more ridiculous.
shaq only got 1 stinking mvp.
[B]but anyway, i miss the days when mvps deserved their awards and proved their worth. mvps carry their teams no matter what. they make their opponents adjust to their game because they're just unstoppoble. dirk is far from this category.[/B][/QUOTE]
Those days are over. I don't think there is any player in the league today that can carry his team to the finals and win. The only guy I can think of is Duncan, but he has a decent team around him so he doesn't have to single-handedly have to carry the team. Sure, the Spurs would be no where near the team they are now with Duncan, but they sure would be a good team without him.
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[QUOTE]Tony Parker, San Antonio -- -- -- -- 1 1[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Official MVP Voting Results: Dirk wins, Nash 2nd, Kobe 3rd, Duncan 4th, LeBron 5th
I agree with Dirk as MVP but anyone seen the top 10 they posted for him on NBA.com ? Some seriously weak stuff, most wouldn't even make top 10 for the day.