I found the ESPN top 20 list
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*notables include: MJ #1, Kareem #2, LeBron #3, Kobe #12, Dirk #17
I’m fine with this list. Is there anything that sticks out to you?
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I found the ESPN top 20 list
[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/dbntvp.jpg[/IMG]
*notables include: MJ #1, Kareem #2, LeBron #3, Kobe #12, Dirk #17
I’m fine with this list. Is there anything that sticks out to you?
Shaq should be higher.
He was the single most dominant player to ever play the game. Period
This lame shit again:lol
Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe:oldlol:
so routinely beating roy hibbert to get to the finals makes you top 3
damn.. :lol
Always the same damn topics. The same damn lists, nothing changed bro. What new information are you bringing to us? :confusedshrug:
well thats it for me. i'm out of here. my life has meant nothing
if anyone wants to carry on my legacy my password is "bootsboots"
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]so routinely beating roy hibbert to get to the finals makes you top 3
damn.. :lol[/QUOTE]
Beating a 73-9 being down 1-3
3 titltes
4 MVPs
3 FMVPs
3x All Star MVP
30K+ points
More accolades than anyone except MJ and Kareem.
You and the rest of the Kobetards can stay outside of the top 10 club, reminiscing about the little time Kobe has spent in the TOP 10 before LeBron and Duncan pushed him out.
[COLOR=Teal][B]Is it more newsworthy though than this [URL="http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games"]Tim Donaghy article[/URL] that tops all records @ 50+ PgDn length?[/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Teal][B]Matter of time before another betting scandal hits the league now that they're legalizing sports betting, mark my words.
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dubeta here
:lol
:roll: :roll: :roll:
And just like that the Bron family has officially won ISH. We da bess :banana:
[QUOTE=coin24]This lame shit again:lol
Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Because the great Tim Duncan is better in almost every notable facet of the game of basketball.
[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]:roll: :roll: :roll:
And just like that the Bron family has officially won ISH. We da bess :banana:[/QUOTE]
Kill yourself...Do us all a favor...You are a loser just like the rest of you kobetards.
See, I don't follow people. No sir, I am a leader. You should follow my example since you a follower.
[QUOTE=coin24]This lame shit again:lol
Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yet LeBron is 16-6 against Kobe but for some strange reason, you still believe Kobe > LeBron. Even though, LeBron routinely manhandled Kobe whenever they faced each other.
You too, should kill yourself before it's too late. By late, I mean you making babies to add more Kobetards on earth.
[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]dubeta here
:lol[/QUOTE]
:roll:
This shit is from 3 years ago
[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]:roll: :roll: :roll:
And just like that the Bron family has officially won ISH. We da bess :banana:[/QUOTE]
Welp that’s the end of stupidity flowing out of this account... lol.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]This shit is from 3 years ago[/QUOTE]
ESPN made this list in 2016, after the finals if I'm not mistaken.
LeHose James took over #1 since the last update, IMO.. :pimp:
Someone who only goes 2/4 with Wade isn't #3. That's a joke
The problem with rankings is that they omit "fit" (with teammates), which is a skill, and [I]based[/I] on skill, and determines how good your team is. Even at their best, lebron/wade were favorites for only 1 year.
Lebron rarely fit well with teammates, rarely had great teamwork, so he rarely won at the championship level, and needed an extra all-star to do it compared to MJ/Kobe
We can't even consider whether MJ or Kobe could beat lebron's Finals comp because we'd have to give them another all-star teammate like lebron had - since they won 11 rings with just 1 all-star teammate, they'd be unfathomable with an extra all-star like Bron had
[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld]Yet LeBron is 16-6 against Kobe but for some strange reason, you still believe Kobe > LeBron. Even though, LeBron routinely manhandled Kobe whenever they faced each other.
You too, should kill yourself before it's too late. By late, I mean you making babies to add more Kobetards on earth.[/QUOTE]
Poor wheels, did they leave you alone in the basement again?? Is it time for a diaper change??
:dancin :hammertime:
[QUOTE=coin24]Poor wheels, did they leave you alone in the basement again?? Is it time for a diaper change??[/QUOTE]
Yeah and it was a mistake bro. Where do I put the dirty blankets bro? Your mom came all over your bed in the basement, last night.
We know lebron isn't #3
because a player can't be #3 if they NEEDED a couple lucky bounces to have more than 1 ring
without ray or kyrie's shots, lebron has 1 ring - a guy that might be a 1-ring bum can't be ranked that high.. :confusedshrug:.
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The Consensus strikes again!
[QUOTE=coin24]This lame shit again:lol
Kobe [B]routinely[/B] ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Kobe only faced the Spurs twice in the playoffs.
Still #12? :(
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Kobe only faced the Spurs twice in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
You know nothing about basketball. Seriously.
Please never write again.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]You know nothing about basketball. Seriously.
Please never write again.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I was wrong.
Kobe only faced the Spurs once in the playoffs as the Lakers franchise player (2008) What he did after Shaq got traded is what really counts. Sidekick years do not.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Yeah, I was wrong.
Kobe only faced the Spurs once in the playoffs as the Lakers franchise player (2008) What he did after Shaq got traded is what really counts. Sidekick years do not.[/QUOTE]
My man. Come on:facepalm :oldlol: we know you hate him and tbf he's a narcissist but come on:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]My man. Come on:facepalm :oldlol: we know you hate him and tbf he's a narcissist but come on:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
If you want to be talked about among the best, then you use the stats when you were considered the best player on your team. The franchise player. That didn't happen for Kobe until 2005.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]If you want to be talked about among the best, then you use the stats when you were considered the best player on your team. The franchise player. That didn't happen for Kobe until 2005.[/QUOTE]
But Kobe was better than Shaq against the Spurs in '01 & '02
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]If you want to be talked about among the best, then you use the stats when you were considered the best player on your team. The franchise player. [B][COLOR="DarkRed"]That didn't happen for Kobe until 2005[/COLOR][/B].[/QUOTE]
And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star
So proven across eras.. :bowdown:
Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.
That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list
[QUOTE=3ball]And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star
So proven across eras.. :bowdown:
Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.
That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list[/QUOTE]
#Facts :cheers:
[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]well thats it for me. i'm out of here. my life has meant nothing
if anyone wants to carry on my legacy my password is "bootsboots"[/QUOTE]
Talk about unstable. You're better off without ish.
[QUOTE=3ball]And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star
So proven across eras.. :bowdown:
Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.
That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list[/QUOTE]
Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors
MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it. Kill yourself too 3ball
[QUOTE=LAmbruh]:dancin :hammertime:[/QUOTE]
,:dancin
12be :lebronamazed:
LBJ should be ranked 1 but whatever
[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld]Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors
MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.l[/QUOTE]
100% FACTS
[QUOTE=coin24]This lame shit again:lol
Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.
[QUOTE=baudkarma]Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: caught
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[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld]
Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors
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MJ won with less (only 1 all-star teammate) and would've been unfathomable with 2 like lebron had to face the Spurs and Warriors
Heck, Lebron teamed up with Wade..:confusedshrug: .. that alone gave him the most talent in the league and he was favored against the Spurs.. against the Warriors, he had another big 3 that was [url=http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13604265&postcount=35]favored in 15'[/url] before kyrie went down
[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld]
Kill yourself too 3ball
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List the players MJ defeated in the playoffs: Magic, Shaq, Isiah, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Payton, Dominique
Those guys rank higher overall than Duncan, Curry, Durant, and then crap like DeRozan, Horford.... And obviously, shaq/penny destroy hibbert/george... And garnett/pierce/allen were all 35 years old when lebron beat them, while Isiah/dumars/rodman were 27-29 when MJ beat them
And on and on.. MJ faced and defeated better players than lebron.. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld]
MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.
[/QUOTE]
All of MJ's wins except 92' was like beating the equivalent of a Spurs-level team
The Spurs sometimes had higher net efficiency because they faced weaker comp in the late 00's than the stacked 90's west - it was 3-4 spurs teams playing each other back then, hence them taking turns losing to MJ in the Finals as 60-win Finals losers.. So MJ would smash the Spurs.. 3-0 in Lebron's shoes
And look at the 2 times MJ faced Duncan in 98' - dominated him, won without pippen.. sure Duncan was only the most prepared rookie ever