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It’s worse than 7 out of 9 of LeBrons Finals
[B]Kawhi in 2019[/B]: 28ppg 4 assists 43% FG
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[B]LeBron in 2018[/B] 35ppg 10 assists 54% FG
LeBron in 2017: 34ppg 10 assists 54% FG
LeBron in 2016: 30ppg 9 assists 50FG%
LeBron in 2015: 36ppg 9 assists 40%FG
LeBron in 2014: 28ppg 4 assists 58% FG
LeBron in 2013: 25ppg 7 assists 45% FG
LeBron in 2012: 29ppg 7 assists 47% FG
Why is Kawhi getting celebrated? He played worse than all of LeBrons Finals
:D
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No idea. Especially when you take into account it was versus a depleted Warriors squad.
Meanwhile, Harden averaged 35/7/6 on 44/35/82 against the Warriors...and 4 of those game were with KD, one of their best defenders.
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Who’s celebrating stats? Only lestans care about stats.
What’s celebrated is that Kawhi won on a new team with a new coach that was less stacked when compared to most of lebron’s finals teams.
Both beat depleted GSW teams
2016
2019
But only one did it while playing his first year for that franchise with a rookie coach. Just means that the east isn’t shit and therefore 8 finals trips in a row in the east could have been done with guys like Kawhi, KD, or AD in lebron’s shoes. Nothing special about it.
Obviously if you watched the series you could see he was frustrated in all but 1 game. He still got his points due to free throws and his uselessness opened the door for guys like VanVleet and Siakam to come up. I think one of those two should have won FMVP, but everyone knew Kawhi was going to get it anyway. Kawhi has never been a great penetrator or shot creator. Especially when he was doubled constantly, I was actually surprised he scored as much as he did.
didn't even realize he played in the Finals this year
all hype has been on Lakers big roster moves
[QUOTE=egokiller]Who
the most overrated Finals run ever dude needed 22 games for rest in his prime.
LeBron's Finals numbers from 2015-2018 were Godly.
Hey mods can we please rename this to "Lets suck our Bran thread"
c'mon guys let's not be sensitive little girls shall we? what's the deal with the selective focus on assists and points and not rebounds?
we absolutely should celebrate kawhi's win. kawhi is the only player to end two dynastys - he shit in the heat's mouth and also had a chance to dump in golden state's mouth.
how is that not celebration-worthy.
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Meanwhile, Harden averaged 35/7/6 on 44/35/82 against the Warriors...and 4 of those game were with KD, one of their best defenders.
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While winning the same amount of games as the Clippers did, despite the Clips facing KD and a hint of Cousins.
Why was 28ppg on 43% with 4 assists enough for Kawhi to win in 6 games?
Why did LeBron lose in 4 with 35ppg on 54% with 10 assists?
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]Why was 28ppg on 43% with 4 assists enough for Kawhi to win in 6 games?
Why did LeBron lose in 4 with 35ppg on 54% with 10 assists?[/QUOTE]
Becaus LeBron doesn
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Becaus LeBron doesn
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Becaus LeBron doesn
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]Defense is worth 8 more ppg, 6 more assists and 10% more FG%[/QUOTE]
Yes actually it's worth way more than that :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE][B]Kawhi in 2019[/B][/QUOTE]
championship.
finals mvp.
[QUOTE][B]LeBron in 2018[/B][/QUOTE]
lost in a sweep.
worst average point differential loss in nba finals history.
[QUOTE]LeBron in 2017[/QUOTE]
lost the finals 4-1.
[QUOTE]
LeBron in 2014[/QUOTE]
was the worst loss in finals history before 2018.
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]Defense is worth 8 more ppg, 6 more assists and 10% more FG%[/QUOTE]
yes... especially considering kawhi gets his stats without infringing on his teammates, and has a positive spacing multiplier.
and is clutch. the anti-bran.
[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]championship.
finals mvp.
lost in a sweep.
worst average point differential loss in nba finals history.
lost the finals 4-1.
was the worst loss in finals history before 2018.[/QUOTE]
Mods...
Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.
One player joins a team and then wins a championship his first season with his new team (and teammates).
The other one never done it.
Please close this thread. OP is a clown :facepalm
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.[/QUOTE]
But WHY? You cant answer that
35 ppg on 54% shooting while getting 10 assists got LeBron swept
28 ppg on 43% and 4 assists gets Kawhi a win in 6 games?
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]Why was 28ppg on 43% with 4 assists enough for Kawhi to win in 6 games?
Why did LeBron lose in 4 with 35ppg on 54% with 10 assists?[/QUOTE]
King Lowry
Siakaham
DPOY Gasol
Iblocka
Vanvleet (Watched the Delly tapes)
Danny GREEN
The list goes on
Meanwhile Bron gets 8 ppg Love and J.R. Swish :(
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.[/QUOTE]
Hi 3ball
Too bad ALL of LeBron's 3 rings are better than any of Jordan's 6
Literally
None of Jordan's rings are more impressive than ANY of LeBron's 3
Your move
#slayed
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Which is half the game. And on top of that, plays a far inferior brand of ball than Kawhi. You play to win, not put up stats. Bron fans can't grasp this concept. LOL.[/QUOTE]
They do grasp it. But it pains them seeing Kawhi get universally acclaimed as the greatest player in basketball. So they're doing the best they can (while gritting their teeth and wiping away tears) to tell everyone that defense (half the game) doesnt matter, and that counting stats mean more than winning. Even though Kawhi just showed that he can beat the Curry-Klay-Draymond warriors in less than 7 games without a single other superstar, and without everyone acting as if it's a miracle.
cos a Clippers team with 43 year old Vince Carter and Jeremy Lin in the starting lineup can beat the GSW team we just saw in the Finals
no disrespect to Kawhi but Lebron's Cavs team last year would have taken the Finals this year 4-1
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]....
It
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]Why was 28ppg on 43% with 4 assists enough for Kawhi to win in 6 games?
Why did LeBron lose in 4 with 35ppg on 54% with 10 assists?[/QUOTE]
Because Lebron ball happened.
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.[/QUOTE]
Damn, when you break it down like that...not a good look for Bron. I'ma have to drop him out of my Top 50 now. :eek:
[QUOTE=nashwade]cos a Clippers team with 43 year old Vince Carter and Jeremy Lin in the starting lineup can beat the GSW team we just saw in the Finals
no disrespect to Kawhi but Lebron's Cavs team last year would have taken the Finals this year 4-1[/QUOTE]
We've already seen Lebron against the Curry-Klay-Green Warriors. He needs a 27 ppg second option who hits the title winning shot on an isolation against the reigning MVP in game 7, to win.
Kawhi just beat them more decisively, without anywhere near the players Lebron had.
Of course this thread is started by someone who only cares about empty stats...and not winning
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Which is half the game. And on top of that, plays a far inferior brand of ball than Kawhi. You play to win, not put up stats. Bron fans can't grasp this concept. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Neither can LeBron
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]They do grasp it. But it pains them seeing Kawhi get universally acclaimed as the greatest player in basketball. So they're doing the best they can (while gritting their teeth and wiping away tears) to tell everyone that defense (half the game) doesnt matter, and that counting stats mean more than winning. Even though Kawhi just showed that he can beat the Curry-Klay-Draymond warriors in less than 7 games without a single other superstar, and without everyone acting as if it's a miracle.[/QUOTE]:eek: :oldlol:
Jesus Christ, and I just bought some salt yesterday when I got my groceries. All I needed to do was open this thread.
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]....
It
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.[/QUOTE]
So we're punishing LeBron for actually playing great teams in the finals unlike a certain someone :lol
[QUOTE=Phoenix]Jesus Christ, and I just bought some salt yesterday when I got my groceries. All I needed to do was open this thread.[/QUOTE]
:lol
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Another thing that sticks out about Bron is that when he wins, he barely wins. His only decisive ring was 2012. The other 2 went 7 and he needed 2 of the biggest shots in history by teammates to win.
On the flip side, he is the recipient of the 2 worst finals losses in history and he has gotten DESTROYED in 4 finals and should've won in 2011 and 2014.
And got outscored by a 33 year old midget in 2011. And gave up FMVP 4 times to his direct assignment. Come on man, too many holes on his resume.[/QUOTE]
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Please Hammer Don
Kawhi had a great playoff run and a very good finals appearance.
However he is still not better than healthy KD and definitely not better than prime Lebron.