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Damn the special interests.
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The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors.
12 years later...
[B]No private investors
$100 billion dollar big gov't boondoggle
Taxpayers scammed
No train
ETA pushed back to the year 2033[/B]
[QUOTE=Cleverness;14040719]The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors.
12 years later...
[B]No private investors
$100 billion dollar big gov't boondoggle
Taxpayers scammed
No train
ETA pushed back to the year 2033[/B][/QUOTE]
Give the project to Elon and it'll get done, lul.
Dream on lmao. Uncle sam has undying love for motor vehicles.
[QUOTE=Cleverness;14040719]The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors.
12 years later...
[B]No private investors
$100 billion dollar big gov't boondoggle
Taxpayers scammed
No train
ETA pushed back to the year 2033[/B][/QUOTE]
Sh!t like that pisses me off. The middlemen, politicians, whoever took all the money and nobody gets held accountable. That will be the downfall of this country as it was in Ancient Rome. Corruption and waste is what always brings nations down.
California is the special interest. Scammed taxpayers across the US.
[QUOTE=Shogon;14040731]Give the project to Elon and it'll get done, lul.[/QUOTE]Elon couldn't even build a 3-mile long tunnel under LA. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=bladefd;14040767]Sh!t like that pisses me off. The middlemen, politicians, whoever took all the money and nobody gets held accountable. That will be the downfall of this country as it was in Ancient Rome. Corruption and waste is what always brings nations down.[/QUOTE]
Too much incompetence, corruption, and meddling to let the govt handle stuff like this. You need the private sector. But no one wants to deal with the up front costs and gigantic investment needed.
What happened to the Hyperloop project??
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14040709]Damn the special interests.
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In california, they started a rail program about 15 years ago, all it built was a mile
If they build high speed rails there rn, how long do you think they would last? 2 years at the most?
[QUOTE=FKAri;14040793]Too much incompetence, corruption, and meddling to let the govt handle stuff like this. You need the private sector. But no one wants to deal with the up front costs and gigantic investment needed.[/QUOTE]
Private sector can't raise a sum like $10 billion. They need immediate return on investment rather than 20yrs down the road. Only nation-states can afford those kinds of sums..
Private construction companies also know how to take advantage of the system so if government provides funds, private construction companies will simply delay-delay-delay the work years and years to keep sucking up money like leeches. Politicians allow that to continue because they are in on it or because they hire a company they are in bed with or because they are simply too inept. Politicians fund a project then leave office in 4-6yrs and the project dies with partial money already spent. Someone else comes along, they may decide to kill the partially-finished project or decide to throw more money at it.
All returns to corruption and lack of accountability.
The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040904]The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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Actually gruesom pulled the plug
What you dopes are missing is that the problems the California project has had are due to the exact same issues that plague governance and development everywhere in this country.
watch season 2 of true detective to understand why that will never pan out in california lol
Public transportation is lame. We need better ways to depopulate, not better ways to shuttle all the useless eaters back and forth. **** them.
Teleportation is the future.
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14040951]What you dopes are missing is that the problems the California project has had are due to the exact same issues that plague governance and development everywhere in this country.[/QUOTE]
California is a shit hole. Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=highwhey;14040953]watch season 2 of true detective to understand why that will never pan out in california lol[/QUOTE]
Season 2 had splashes of Epstein in it too
City of Vinci in the show was based off the industrial City of Vernon in LA and it's political scandals as well
I like it, Season 1 was just too good to one-up
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040904]The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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Uhh, I always thought you were the dumb alter ego of Fultz, but I can no longer tell. If you're trolling, well done.
The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in [B]2008 [/B]- long before Trump.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors. It's now a $100B boondoggle with completion ETA of 2033.
But it's Trump's fault because he didn't want another ~$1 billion of taxpayer dollars into more waste? :facepalm
[QUOTE=Hawker;14040959]California is a shit hole. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
you need to visit Yosemite and Sequoia National Park breh
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040904]The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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Bunker boy wants us to go back to using "clean coal" and steam engines :oldlol:
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Trump helping out the US taxpayers by not wasting money on an absolute boondoggle. It's not problem to drive around in California with how it's set up and there's already AmTrak there. Waste of money.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14040890]Private sector can't raise a sum like $10 billion. They need immediate return on investment rather than 20yrs down the road. Only nation-states can afford those kinds of sums..
Private construction companies also know how to take advantage of the system so if government provides funds, private construction companies will simply delay-delay-delay the work years and years to keep sucking up money like leeches. Politicians allow that to continue because they are in on it or because they hire a company they are in bed with or because they are simply too inept. Politicians fund a project then leave office in 4-6yrs and the project dies with partial money already spent. Someone else comes along, they may decide to kill the partially-finished project or decide to throw more money at it.
All returns to corruption and lack of accountability.[/QUOTE]
You just explained the problem with government funded infrastructure. Good job. The perfect world of private companies always acting ethically and politicians staying in power forever doesn't exist.
If the investment made sense, the private sector would fund it.
Donald Diapers worrying about taxpayer money wasted :yaohappy:
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[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040970]Donald Diapers worrying about taxpayer money wasted :yaohappy:
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"orange man bad"
wow
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yikes
[QUOTE=Hawker;14040968] It's not problem to drive around in California with how it's set up [/QUOTE]
funny joke :oldlol:
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The money will be used for building Mexico's wall to keep Covid Americans out
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040904]The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/zvbbyBQ2/hsr.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What a lie. That section was nowhere near completion and has now been canceled by Newsom because it was going nowhere. As if $1 billion was putting the whole project in jeopardy. :rolleyes:
The funding that was pulled out was originally authorized by the Obama administration under the condition that it would be completed by 2018. It was an incentive to develop the economy of the Central Valley.
They didn't build shit, so the funding was pulled back.
[QUOTE=Cleverness;14040961]Uhh, I always thought you were the dumb alter ego of Fultz, but I can no longer tell. If you're trolling, well done.
The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in [B]2008 [/B]- long before Trump.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors. It's now a $100B boondoggle with completion ETA of 2033.
But it's Trump's fault because he didn't want another ~$1 billion of taxpayer dollars into more waste? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
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btw no problem with presidents golfing. It's much less dangerous than destructive national policies. That government is best which governs least.
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040981]funny joke :oldlol:
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It's only bad in LA. Road trip I made in cali years ago was a breeze unless I drove through LA.
> traffic is great in California
> i drove through once
> it's only bad in LA
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keep the shit takes coming :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Hawker;14041000]It's only bad in LA. Road trip I made in cali years ago was a breeze unless I drove through LA.[/QUOTE]
ehh, it's pretty bad in CA cities during rush hours. bay area is about as bad as LA. but yeah, if you're doing a road trip there's a lot of rural CA with no traffic
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Bruh,
Say it with me now
California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008 - long before Trump.
It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors.
It's now a $100 billion boondoggle with completion ETA of 2033.
Trump's decision to not waste yet another ~$1 billion of taxpayer dollars is not the problem.
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;14040904]The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies
Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology
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[QUOTE=Hawker;14040969]You just explained the problem with government funded infrastructure. Good job. The perfect world of private companies always acting ethically and politicians staying in power forever doesn't exist.
If the investment made sense, the private sector would fund it.[/QUOTE]
Private sector will not fund anything that does not instantly boost up their bottom line. They also cannot possibly be able to raise sums in the tens of billions like nations and states can. If you look around the world, you will not find privately owned high speed rails. Not even AMTRAK can raise the funds for a high-speed rail without major assistance from government/tax money.