Curry is the most overrated player in history

He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.

Curry is the greatest offensive player of all time and will be top when he retires. Cry about it.

If Curry was Jordan's rival he'd do a complete 180 on the subject and endlessly hype the shit out of him :lol

Morning meltdown.

Love it.


More dangerous offensive player than Jordan.

Funny watching random Lebron haters who pretend to think you’re reasonable try to downplay the insanity of everything else you say so they can keep nodding in agreement at the anti Lebron nonsense. That’s always the best part of a non Lebron topic of yours. The selective acknowledgment that you have no clue. I’m sure that will be starting soon.

Bad as your Lebron and pippen takes are when you dip your toe into a discussion of anyone else your normal idiocy seems profound in comparison.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14321179]Funny watching random Lebron haters who pretend to think you’re reasonable try to downplay the insanity of everything else you say so they can keep nodding in agreement at the anti Lebron nonsense. That’s always the best part of a non Lebron topic of yours. The selective acknowledgment that you have no clue. I’m sure that will be starting soon.

Bad as your Lebron and pippen takes are when you dip your toe into a discussion of anyone else your normal idiocy seems profound in comparison.[/QUOTE]
But this is 100% a LeBron topic. It's not a coincidence the guy affiliated with LeBron's greatest achievement and arguably his biggest rival gets the "most overrated player in history" label

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14321180]But this is 100% a LeBron topic. It's not a coincidence the guy affiliated with LeBron's greatest achievement and arguably his biggest rival gets the "most overrated player in history" label[/QUOTE]
Curry has a pretty strong case for best offensive player of all time so I can see why he might feel threatened by him too. Obviously MJ>Curry because of the massive difference in defense, don’t get me wrong. I think Curry can make the top 10, but few of the top 10 weren’t elite on both ends. The only one who was considered a subpar defender was Magic and he is also in the running for GOAT offensive player.

He pretty much changed the game. I mean, how can he be overrated?

People might not like it but what can ya do? :confusedshrug:

He's better than MJ's old rival Miller btw.

OP in his feelings this morning.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14321186]He pretty much changed the game. I mean, how can he be overrated?

People might not like it but what can ya do? :confusedshrug:

He's better than MJ's old rival Miller btw.[/QUOTE]
He’s better than anyone MJ ever played in a series tbh. Old Magic and young Shaq don’t count.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321190]He’s better than anyone MJ ever played in a series tbh. Old Magic and young Shaq don’t count.[/QUOTE]
He's not better than Bird :lol But I assume you mean anyone Jordan ever beat in a series

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14321192]He's not better than Bird :lol But I assume you mean anyone Jordan ever beat in a series[/QUOTE]
Oh **** I actually didn’t I just forgot he played peak Bird. I could actually argue Curry is better than Bird peak for peak tbh. I’m aware Curry has had his bad moments in the playoffs but so did Bird. In Bird’s defense he was used poorly considering how good of a shooter he was due to playing in a time where the 3 wasn’t valued nearly enough. His impact today could be even higher considering this. Still, I am really high on Curry despite the fact that I can’t stand him. Idk if people will ever realize how good he is (no I’m not talking about casual idiots who call him the GOAT).

But i thought op is a fan of scoring and ppg? Aren't they the things that he would look at when judging a player's capabilities? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14321175]If Curry was Jordan's rival he'd do a complete 180 on the subject and endlessly hype the shit out of him :lol[/QUOTE]

Yep. Look at how he salivates at all of MJ's opponents. If Curry was in the 90s and Chicago faced his team, 3ball would be praising him to no end.

Most overrated my ass.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321173]Curry is the greatest offensive player of all time and will be top when he retires. Cry about it.[/QUOTE]

He’s never hit a big shot. A few people in his own country care about him and all of China. Cultural hero!

Curry at his absolute best is one of the most exciting players to watch, and undoubtably one of the best players ever.

Ridiculous that he lost out an FMVP to Iggy when he was quite clearly the FMVP of that series.

Morning meltdown.

Love it.


More dangerous offensive player than Jordan.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321173]Curry is the greatest offensive player of all time and will be top when he retires. Cry about it.[/QUOTE]

This is a joke right?

[QUOTE=3ball;14321172]He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if he's the most overrated. Most experts have him right around where he should be. Somewhere in between 15-20 all time

This guy seriously thinks curry just stands and waits for 3s lmao. When he's probably the best off ball route runner of all time and is doubled all game.

[QUOTE=tpols;14321251]This guy seriously thinks curry just stands and waits for 3s lmao. When he's probably the best off ball route runner of all time and is doubled all game.[/QUOTE]

Remember Steph isn’t as good a shot maker as Gail Goodrich.

[QUOTE=tpols;14321251]This guy seriously thinks curry just stands and waits for 3s lmao. When he's probably the best off ball route runner of all time and is doubled all game.[/QUOTE]

He's definitely one of the greatest off ball movers. As far as him being doubled alot it's mostly because of the rules and 1000 screens a game he gets. You can't fight through screens anymore so you only have 2 options when defending the screens. You can switch and your often left with a mismatch where curry can put a big on skates or you can double the ball. If curry didn't get a 1000 screens a game he wouldn't get doubled as much.

Why don’t all the other players just do what you described then? Based on that everybody is overrated.

[QUOTE=Ne 1;14321280]Why don’t all the other players just do what you described then? Based on that everybody is overrated.[/QUOTE]

Alot of them do its just Watch the games it's pretty much all the same. Set a screen and the defense will either switch or double the ball or screener. It depends on who the ball handler and screener are. If the ball handler isn't a major threat they'll just switch. If the ball handler is a great scorer they'll double the ball. If the screener is a better scorer than the ball handler alot of the times the they'll double the screener. In years past it was much easier dealing with screens because you could just blow through the screen. You can't make contact with the screener under the new rules so that's no longer an option. These rules were intended to benefit perimeter shooters and steph being the greatest shooter ever obviously takes advantage of them more than anyone

Curry is all-time great however yes he is a little overrated. Curry is dangerous one of best offensive players we have seen the greatest shooter ever.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321195]Oh **** I actually didn’t I just forgot he played peak Bird. [B]I could actually argue Curry is better than Bird peak for peak tbh[/B]. I’m aware Curry has had his bad moments in the playoffs but so did Bird. In Bird’s defense he was used poorly considering how good of a shooter he was due to playing in a time where the 3 wasn’t valued nearly enough. His impact today could be even higher considering this. Still, I am really high on Curry despite the fact that I can’t stand him. Idk if people will ever realize how good he is (no I’m not talking about casual idiots who call him the GOAT).[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :facepalm :oldlol:

[Img]https://i.postimg.cc/ht2Wz8mw/ledagger-over-curry.gif[/img]

[B]"James puts up a three. Ohh it's good! LeBron James from downtown!" [/B]

The thing that baffles my mind is he says curry should play more like Reggie Miller... He literally plays exactly like Reggie but with a more complicated route tree. And the ability to dribble through traffic and finish every type of reverse layup imaginable.

How is he overrated? Does any other player draw as much defensive attention as he does in today's NBA? No one was near Lebron on his game-winning shot, Steph would have had 3 guys on him in the same situation. He was the only legitimate shot-maker on the Warriors and still put up an efficient 37 in a big game. I don't see how that loss is on him, the Lakers flat out dominated the Warriors once they stopped ****ing around and put AD at the 5 and opened up the paint for everyone.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321172]
This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts [/QUOTE]

Saying Curry just stands around waiting to shoot 3s is one of the dumbest ****ing things I've ever read here on ISH and I've been here since before it changed to vBulletin.

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14321241]This is a joke right?[/QUOTE]
I said offense. Obviously MJ, LeBron Kareem and others are better because of defense.

[QUOTE=tpols;14321313]The thing that baffles my mind is he says curry should play more like Reggie Miller... He literally plays exactly like Reggie but with a more complicated route tree. And the ability to dribble through traffic and finish every type of reverse layup imaginable.[/QUOTE]



[B]Will no one address the substance?[/B]

Today's strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they already get off screens - if Curry didn't get those kickout attempts and only got threes by running off screens like Reggie Miller, he would barely get off 5 theees a game and wouldn't be an elite producer.. Curry needs maximum 3-point attempts to have elite stats, and only today's drive-and-kick strategy provides these attempts.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321455][B]Will no one address the substance?[/B]

Today's strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they already get off screens - if Curry didn't get those kickout attempts and had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..[/QUOTE]
George McCloud got off ~8 threes a game in the 90s lol.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321455][B]Will no one address the substance?[/B]

Today's strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they already get off screens - if Curry didn't get those kickout attempts and had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..[/QUOTE]

Your argument means absolutely not nothing unless you can statistically back up the percentage of Stephs shots that are kick outs.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321195]Oh **** I actually didn’t I just forgot he played peak Bird. I could actually argue Curry is better than Bird peak for peak tbh. I’m aware Curry has had his bad moments in the playoffs but so did Bird. In Bird’s defense he was used poorly considering how good of a shooter he was due to playing in a time where the 3 wasn’t valued nearly enough. His impact today could be even higher considering this. Still, I am really high on Curry despite the fact that I can’t stand him. Idk if people will ever realize how good he is (no I’m not talking about casual idiots who call him the GOAT).[/QUOTE]

Bird was a very good defensive player too and a solid leader. He was also extremely clutch. His body just didn't last very long unfortunately and had to retire bit early

Op is a certified goof

[QUOTE=3ball;14321455][B]Will no one address the substance?[/B]

Today's strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they already get off screens - if Curry didn't get those kickout attempts and only got threes by running off screens like Reggie Miller, he would barely get off 5 theees a game and wouldn't be an elite producer.. Curry needs maximum 3-point attempts to have elite stats, and only today's drive-and-kick strategy provides these attempts.[/QUOTE]

Dude Curry runs off screens all game long. He's the best assist target of all time... basically the randy moss of basketball. Crack is wack bro. When you say retarded shit like this it makes your valid points look weak.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14321460]Your argument means absolutely not nothing unless you can statistically back up the percentage of Stephs shots that are kick outs.[/QUOTE]


[B]NBA.COM STATS: [I]PLAY TYPE[/I][/B]

[Url=https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/spot-up/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=1]Spot up[/url]........... 20-27% of plays
[Url=https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/off-screen/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=-1]Off-Screen[/url]........ 2-8% of plays



In previous eras, it's probably reversed - more off-screen than spot-up..

High screen, drive-and-kick didn't exist in the 90's.. D'Antoni started it, and the Warriors added wrinkles and made the strategy sophisticated - now it's the standard of the whole league.

The drive-and-kick starts the ball movement, so guys like Curry can pad their 3-point attempts and get easier scoring opportunities than if their wasn't spacing strategy.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321172]He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.[/QUOTE]

lol @ calling Curry one dimensional. He's also an all-time great ball-handler & can finish around the rim. We have never seen a guard score the way he does on such high efficiency, he blows everyone away.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321409]I said offense. Obviously MJ, LeBron Kareem and others are better because of defense.[/QUOTE]

He isn't better than mj offensively. Curry has 2 scoring titles mj has a shit ton. Mj scored more in the playoffs and finals in a way tougher defensive era. He has no argument what so ever against mj.