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Jokic is starting his GOAT run now
Dude will win a ring/FMVP this year, and silence all the dumbass haters who thought this guy wasn't the best in the world.
And you know what, he may win a third MVP and go back-to-back with another ring/FMVP next year.
Dude is a massive Center and freakish combo between Dirk/Bird with Nash passing ability. :biggums:
Jokic over the last three regular seasons.
31.9 PER, 66.8 TS, 12.9 BPM. - a three year stretch like this is pretty much only matched by MJ and Lebron.
Jokic over the last three playoffs.
31.9 PER, 61.5 TS, 11.7 BPM - again this is MJ/Lebron level.
Jokic's WHOLE playoff career.
59 games - 29.1 PER, 61.1 TS, 10.3 BPM.
This dude has been an all-time superstar over these last five years. People don't want to admit it yet because he hasn't won a ring, but he will this year.
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LeBron is still the best in the world.
Jokic is knocking on the door though.
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14778924]And you know what, he may win a third MVP and go back-to-back with another ring/FMVP next year.
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Alright slow down bud
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14778925]Oh boy the overreactions[/QUOTE]
The league isn't stacked with any teams these last few years. A lot of really good teams, but each year is relatively open compared to the past few decades.
As long as Jokic/Murray are healthy, they should be title favorites.
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14778934]The league isn't stacked with any teams these last few years. A lot of really good teams, but each year is relatively open compared to the past few decades.
As long as Jokic/Murray are healthy, they should be title favorites.[/QUOTE]
Denver doesn't have the depth to be considered that good IMO. Also a poor defensive team. Those kind of teams don't dominate.
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I mean he has been for years now. It likely won't matter because he landed in Denver. He was without his 2nd/3rd best player the past two playoffs. No other star would ever the expectations to win a ring like that. He hasn't played with another All-Star his entire career. He doesn't care about his legacy/awards etc. like he coasted the entire finish to the season instead of aggressively going after his 3rd MVP. I love Murray and playoff Murray is a beast but he can be very inconsistent.
If Jokic landed somewhere where he got to play with a Kobe/Wade/stacked Laker team/stacked Celtic team etc. than yeah we'd be absolutely talking about the potential GOAT right now.
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Relax its only the first game of the series….:lol
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I like how the game played out because Denver has a good idea what to expect in Game 2
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[QUOTE=3ba11;14779158]I like how the game played out because Denver has a good idea what to expect in Game 2[/QUOTE]
Aka don't let Reaves shoot 3s.
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14778930]LeBron is still the best in the world.
Jokic is knocking on the door though.[/QUOTE]
Not even close. Missed playoffs last year and lost in round 1 as favorites. Despite having two other top 75 players alltime with him.
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Jokic is better than prime Lebron.
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[QUOTE=dazzer87;14779044]Relax its only the first game of the series….:lol[/QUOTE]
This run has been building over the last 3 years...but because NBA fans are stupid, they need to see Jokic win a ring first before giving him any legit credit. This is why I'm saying his GOAT run starts now, because the Nuggets will win the chip this year. I've been hyping Jokic up since his first playoff run in 2019 because it was clear he was a REAL superstar in the making. It's been obvious to see that he is the best player in basketball recently. People wanted to give that title to Giannis or even Curry because they won rings, but Jokic didn't have a healthy team to compete.
Then Jokic legit faced media-fueled racism this year because people wanted to coddle the crying Embiid. People wanted to say Embiid was better than Jokic even though Embiid has NEVER accomplished more than Jokic. Finally enough people are starting to face reality this year than Embiid can't compete with Jokic.
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I haven't watch Jokic at all this season, so wow am I impressed.
To me it is obvious that he is easily the best player in the league and has taken huge leaps forward, particularly on defense. AD struggled against Jokic's defense and he wasn't a turnstile at all.
We're watching a true all time great, that much I am sure off.
GOAT he won't be, but he might show us what Sabonis the elder might have looked like in the 80s.
The NBA looks bright with the current crop of stars, Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Tatum, Zion, Wemby and others. Great era coming up after a weak era.
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Jokic is number 1 all-time in playoff PER by the way.
Dude is so goated. The eye test also shows he is the most skilled offensive center by a good margin, and factually one of the most skilled players of all time while being 7 feet tall.
He can score everywhere on the court at high efficiency and can make every type of pass. Dude is insane.
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It's great to see big men make a huge comeback over the last half-decade. The last five MVPs have been won by traditional centers and a PF that can't shoot. Hopefully, Wemby and Chet continue the resurgence.
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it'shis year ... hope he gets a ring to honor this great player.
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14778930]LeBron is still the best in the world.
Jokic is knocking on the door though.[/QUOTE]
Lebron wasn't even 2nd team. Couldn't make the playoffs with peak AD, Westbrook, Dwight, Melo last year
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html[/url] (Lakers 1st)
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_preseason_odds.html[/url] (Lakers 2nd)
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One more W until he gets to his first finals. Really hope he wins a ring this year and shuts up all the media/fan morons. Jokic is the most skilled player of all time.
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Not a good look amongst those who doubted his team to make the finals. :no:
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First 3 finals games for Jokic.
33/14/9 on 59/44/86 splits. If he keeps this up and wins a ring, it might be the best "debut" finals performance since MJ in 91.
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14796647]First 3 finals games for Jokic.
33/14/9 on 59/44/86 splits. If he keeps this up and wins a ring, it might be the best "debut" finals performance since MJ in 91.[/QUOTE]
We're watching greatness right in front of our eyes. Jokic is a special breed who should not be taken for granted
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I find it funny how this board just like most of the country are 4 years late to see Jokic's greatness, no wonder the country is going to S**T, with all the weak brined idiots walking around.
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Statistically he's had a season as good as anyone ever
Offensively I think he's better than LeBron and MJ, Curry is the only player that you can argue is as impactful on the offensive end of the floor
What he's doing is absolutely unfair, he has zero weaknesses offensively
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[QUOTE=Manny98;14796942]Statistically he's had a season as good as anyone ever
Offensively I think he's better than LeBron and MJ, Curry is the only player that you can argue is as impactful on the offensive end of the floor
What he's doing is absolutely unfair, he has zero weaknesses offensively[/QUOTE]
Gotta consider rule changes as well. Never led the league in scoring either.
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14778924]Dude will win a ring/FMVP this year, and silence all the dumbass haters who thought this guy wasn't the best in the world.
[B]And you know what, he may win a third MVP and go back-to-back with another ring/FMVP next year.[/B]
Dude is a massive Center and freakish combo between Dirk/Bird with Nash passing ability. :biggums:
Jokic over the last three regular seasons.
31.9 PER, 66.8 TS, 12.9 BPM. - a three year stretch like this is pretty much only matched by MJ and Lebron.
Jokic over the last three playoffs.
31.9 PER, 61.5 TS, 11.7 BPM - again this is MJ/Lebron level.
Jokic's WHOLE playoff career.
59 games - 29.1 PER, 61.1 TS, 10.3 BPM.
This dude has been an all-time superstar over these last five years. People don't want to admit it yet because he hasn't won a ring, but he will this year.[/QUOTE]
Bolding this in my OP. Ready to see Jokic win another MVP, ring, and FMVP next year.
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[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14797086]Gotta consider rule changes as well. Never led the league in scoring either.[/QUOTE]
Which rule changes?
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If the joker wins next year he will already be ahead of Lebron all time already
Achieving a 2peat. Something Lebron has never done
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14778930]LeBron is still the best in the world.
Jokic is knocking on the door though.[/QUOTE]
you are a ****ing dumbass mother ****er. I swear ALL bron fans are burger flipping peasants
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[QUOTE=LeGoat4Life;14798597]If the joker wins next year he will already be ahead of Lebron all time already
[B]Achieving a 2peat. Something Lebron has never done[/B][/QUOTE]
:wtf:
Are you a stupid ****ing **** sucker ******?? YES YOU ARE.
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With basketball you can speculate on what a player could be if they had more help or a healthy team but at the end of the day you still need to confirm it before making any type of declarations on a players greatness. How many times have we seen great players on great teams come up short? Plenty. Basketball is an odd sport where its complicated and easy all at once but that to me is what makes it the greatest sport on earth.
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[QUOTE=LeGoat4Life;14798597]If the joker wins next year he will already be ahead of Lebron all time already
Achieving a 2peat. Something Lebron has never done[/QUOTE]
It's scary that people that say these type of things are allowed to drive and operate other heavy machinery.
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[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14798605]:wtf:
Are you a stupid ****ing **** sucker ******?? YES YOU ARE.[/QUOTE]
Remind us when did Lebron achieve a 2peat with full seasons?
KD curry all did it easily
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[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14778924]Dude will win a ring/FMVP this year, and silence all the dumbass haters who thought this guy wasn't the best in the world.
And you know what, he may win a third MVP and go back-to-back with another ring/FMVP next year.
Dude is a massive Center and freakish combo between Dirk/Bird with Nash passing ability. :biggums:
Jokic over the last three regular seasons.
31.9 PER, 66.8 TS, 12.9 BPM. - a three year stretch like this is pretty much only matched by MJ and Lebron.
Jokic over the last three playoffs.
31.9 PER, 61.5 TS, 11.7 BPM - again this is MJ/Lebron level.
Jokic's WHOLE playoff career.
59 games - 29.1 PER, 61.1 TS, 10.3 BPM.
This dude has been an all-time superstar over these last five years. People don't want to admit it yet because he hasn't won a ring, but he will this year.[/QUOTE]
Bumping this OP which was before the Nugs won the chip last year. Not only did I say Jokic would win the chip/FMVP, but I said Jokic would also win a third MVP and go back-to-back with another ring/FMVP this year. And I still stand by that.
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Relax its only 1-0 in Oct
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[QUOTE=dazzer87;14841996]Relax its only 1-0 in Oct[/QUOTE]
Well, I made the thread five months ago...it's been long enough for me :oldlol:
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One more ring/FMVP and Jokic is easily a "larry bird" level player, making him top 10 all time.
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Crazy to think Jokic should really have won MVP last year and be well on his way to a 4th MVP in a row...
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It's amazing how this dude is acting like he called something when it was already well known how great Jokic was.
Would be like saying "I told yall MJ was GOAT in 1993! I told yall!"
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