TRADE: Jrue Holiday to the Celtics for Timelord, Brogdan and 2 firsts.

So says Woj.

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They got timelord two firsts and Brogdon who I bet they trade for more. I had to double check to make sure it was the real Woj when I read all that. Blazers ****ing got it in.

Ayton backing up Robert Williams?

Wonder what we’re doing for our big man situation.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834519]Ayton backing up Robert Williams?[/QUOTE]


I love the guy but he’s played 24 minutes a game once in his career. Probably best to let him play in bursts for another year or so as he gets healthy.

[QUOTE=Wally450;14834521]Wonder what we’re doing for our big man situation.[/QUOTE]

Olynyk is available

I don't like trading Williams at all. I may be alone in this but thinking long term I wouldn't trade him for Holiday one for one. Healthy Brogdon isn't that far behind Holiday just by himself. If Brogdon was still posed then sure. Jim and some firsts. But including Williams? I hope I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834525]I don't like trading Williams at all. I may be alone in this but thinking long term I wouldn't trade him for Holiday one for one. Healthy Brogdon isn't that far behind Holiday just by himself. If Brogdon was still posed then sure. Jim and some firsts. But including Williams? I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]


Maybe Boston is using inside info on his medical situation and the Blazers are willing to take a chance despite their history of taking such chances not working out.

They should give Dwight Howard a shot. He could even start for the sake of preserving Horford.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14834526]Maybe Boston is using inside info on his medical situation and the Blazers are willing to take a chance despite their history of taking such chances not working out.[/QUOTE]

Very possible but right now I don't like it.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834527]They should give Dwight Howard a shot. He could even start for the sake of preserving Horford.[/QUOTE]

Good luck with that. Whiteside is available too! :roll:

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834530]Good luck with that. Whiteside is available too! :roll:[/QUOTE]

You're favorite player is basically an inferior version of Howard in his prime. Howard is no longer in his prime but with the offensive talent the Celtics can bring it a big that can rebound and block shots is all that is required. And Howard is also experienced in the playoffs.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834528]Very possible but right now I don't like it.[/QUOTE]

Id hate giving him up, but they have to be used to not having him by now and you do need a Point guard. You’re also going to need somebody to guard Lillard and Jrue absolutely shut him down a while back in the playoffs. Dame considers him the best man to man defender in the league off that one series. It was some time ago but he kinda destroyed him on both ends.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14834534]Id hate giving him up, but they have to be used to not having him by now and you do need a Point guard. You’re also going to need somebody to guard Lillard and Jrue absolutely shut him down a while back in the playoffs. Dame considers him the best man to man defender in the league off that one series. It was some time ago but he kinda destroyed him on both ends.[/QUOTE]

I do still believe in this team but Robert Williams is going to collect DPoY trophies. Also the Celtics do now need another big.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834533]You're favorite player is basically an inferior version of Howard in his prime. Howard is no longer in his prime but with the offensive talent the Celtics can bring it a big that can rebound and block shots is all that is required. And Howard is also experienced in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Howard is playing in Taiwan or Puerto Rico or wherever for good reason.

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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834536]Howard is playing in Taiwan or Puerto Rico or wherever for good reason.[/QUOTE]

He has definitely declined but every player that is capable of playing in the NBA isn't necessarily in the NBA. I know that him being in Asia looks bad but the last time I saw him play he could still rebound and block shots. He's still in great shape and still strong. No harm for the Celtics to give him a look.

suns would be unstoppable with brogdon. blazers owe us for bending us over on the ayton deal, but i'm sure they won't give us any favor for that.

Ugh. :(

i guess this solves the "whos going to replace marcus smart defensive role"


celtics>>>bucks. unless tatum chokes again.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834539]He has definitely declined but every player that is capable of playing in the NBA isn't necessarily in the NBA. I know that him being in Asia looks bad but the last time I saw him play he could still rebound and block shots. He's still in great shape and still strong. No harm for the Celtics to give him a look.[/QUOTE]

yeah they could certainly give him a look like GS did. GS ended up with Rudy Gay's corpse and Rodney McGruder they were so impressed with their look

Gotta wonder what embiid thinks of these eastern conference teams making big moves while the sixers continue to sit on harden

[QUOTE=bison;14834545]Gotta wonder what embiid thinks of these eastern conference teams making big moves while the sixers continue to sit on harden[/QUOTE]

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That's not a good deal. Brogdan is almost as good as jrue himself but much younger. Never mind throwing in one of the best defensive centers in the league and picks. Big L by Boston.

[QUOTE=tpols;14834547]That's not a good deal. Brogdan is almost as good as jrue himself but much younger. Never mind throwing in one of the best defensive centers in the league and picks. Big L by Boston.[/QUOTE]
True. Jrue is a likeable guy but he's getting older and the Cs gave a bit much just to get him.

[QUOTE=highwhey;14834542]i guess this solves the "whos going to replace marcus smart defensive role"


celtics>>>bucks. unless tatum chokes again.[/QUOTE]

Who is going to replace Robert Williams? Giannis and embiid are gonna feast on horford and KP.

Also it’s hilarious Holiday ended up on the Celtics because that is the worse case scenario for the bucks. You just gave your conference rival an elite defender. They should have had more control over where holiday went by getting a 4th team involved in the dame trade rather than send him to Portland which was an obvious layover for him

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834544]yeah they could certainly give him a look like GS did. GS ended up with Rudy Gay's corpse and Rodney McGruder they were so impressed with their look[/QUOTE]

If you are signing a free agent in October it's going to be someone that other teams passed on. Who are you expecting to be available? Just because the Warriors didn't think he could help doesn't mean no team can use him.

[QUOTE=bison;14834550]Who is going to replace Robert Williams? Giannis and embiid are gonna feast on horford and KP.

Also it’s hilarious Holiday ended up on the Celtics because that is the worse case scenario for the bucks. You just gave your conference rival an elite defender. They should have had more control over where holiday went by getting a 4th team involved in the dame trade rather than send him to Portland which was an obvious layover for him[/QUOTE]

if you're the celtics, embiid isn't much of a concern.

and giannis is going to get 45 whistles a game regardless of who's guarding. but he isn't going to beat tthe celtics alone, and dame will have his hands full on both ends bc now he has to contest 3 wings while being guarded by possibly the best guard defender in Jrue. on paper, celtics have them on a tilt.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834553]If you are signing a free agent in October it's going to be someone that other teams passed on. Who are you expecting to be available? Just because the Warriors didn't think he could help doesn't mean no team can use him.[/QUOTE]

Everyone has passed on him for a few years. Must be reasons

Love it for the Blazers, like it for the Celtics.

Porzingis is an elite rim protector, it wouldnt have hurt to play him and TL together but it isnt necessary. If they go Jrue, Brown, Tatum, Horford and Zingis together that is a scary defensive team. And Horford gives you much more spacing. They paid a steep price and thinned out their bench a bit but that team can compete with the Bucks.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14834559]Love it for the Blazers, like it for the Celtics.

Porzingis is an elite rim protector, it wouldnt have hurt to play him and TL together but it isnt necessary. If they go Jrue, Brown, Tatum, Horford and Zingis together that is a scary defensive team. And Horford gives you much more spacing. They paid a steep price and thinned out their bench a bit but that team can compete with the Bucks.[/QUOTE]

can you count on Porzingas? Last year was the most games he'd played since his 2nd year in the league

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834538]Adrian Wojnarowski: That’s the current tally on Damian Lillard trade, anyway: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Portland plans to keep Robert Williams to pair with Deandre Ayton, sources say, but there has certainly been interest in veteran Malcolm Brogdon and expect teams will be calling on him. Blazers are committed to young guards[/URL].
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Scoot Henderson, Anfernee Simons, Deandre Ayton and Time Lord.

I mean these are talented individuals but that is not a long term core IMO. The collective IQ is just not gonna be contender caliber. Thats not intended to be condescending it’s just the analytical reality.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834560]can you count on Porzingas? Last year was the most games he'd played since his 2nd year in the league[/QUOTE]

Well no, you cant count on him objectively, but theyre taking a chance with him so they might as well take this chance too. Theyre pot committed.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834558]Everyone has passed on him for a few years. Must be reasons[/QUOTE]

He's not a modern big. This is a known fact. What you are not addressing is which better bigs are available.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834569]He's not a modern big. This is a known fact. What you are not addressing is which better bigs are available.[/QUOTE]

anyone not named Demarcus or Hassan

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14834572]anyone not named Demarcus or Hassan[/QUOTE]

Which is who?

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834574]Which is who?[/QUOTE]

[url]https://*********.com/lists/2023-nba-free-agent-top-centers/[/url]

guys that rebound and block shots on that list

NBA GMs are deliberately stacking deck for teams (Bucks, Celtics, Suns) they think can stop Lebron from winning a 5th championship.

But they will fail because their opponent is not Lebron but God. God wants Wembenyama to be GOAT. Followed by Lebron. Than in last place is Jordan. There's nothing NBA GMs can do to stop this.

So despite having Tatum avatar, Giannis being my favorite international player all-time. I'm still going to root for Lebron to win his 5th championship this upcoming season.

[QUOTE=JohnMax;14834584]NBA GMs are deliberately stacking deck for teams (Bucks, Celtics, Suns) they think can stop Lebron from winning a 5th championship.

But they will fail because their opponent is not Lebron but God. God wants Wembenyama to be GOAT. Followed by Lebron. Than in last place is Jordan. There's nothing NBA GMs can do to stop this.

So despite having Tatum avatar, Giannis being my favorite international player all-time. I'm still going to root for Lebron to win his 5th championship this season.[/QUOTE]

JohnMax you have been on the cutting edge for years at posting with a consistent ambiguity that nobody could discern if you were just an honestly crazy person or an intentional troll.

Please dont lose that discipline.