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A lot of posters here are. :oldlol:
Rent free.
Op takes it up the ass.
That guy was making some good points tbh.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14978855]Rent free.
Op takes it up the ass.[/QUOTE]
Good morning, Meth Hominem! :cheers:
jeez. what a passive aggressive bitch op is.
[QUOTE=diamenz;14978872]jeez. what a passive aggressive bitch op is.[/QUOTE]
Only passive due to the fact I didn't need to waste time typing out who resembles what. If you are triggered by the video in the OP, it's definitely you.
Notice how the dumb libs purposely try to blur the lines between illegal and legal immigration? Guess what dummies. America didn't fall for your stupid antics this time around. And Trump made inroads on all those "foreigner" demographics :oldlol:
And isn't it weird how the libs seem like they only have a bleeding heart for illegal aliens when it's a Republican president? Obama' builds the "cages" for deportees. No protest. Trump uses those same cages. "ZOMG he's throwing families in cages!!! Oh the horror!!" Obama deports 3+ million illegals. Silence from the white libs. Trump deports less than a 1/5, "ZOMG he's a fascist!!!"
Give it up libs. You tried this stupid playbook already. It spectacularly blew up in your face on November. It's time to try some new plays
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The average person today doesn't even know what a Freemason is, nor do they know what the craft is all about.
They aren't going to teach your children about it in History class anymore.
Everybody knew what it was in the 1800's.... but not anymore in the 2000's
Freemasons already took over, because everything is now done in secret.
[quote]The Anti-Masonic Party was the earliest third party in the United States. Formally a single-issue party, it strongly opposed Freemasonry in the United States. It was active from the late 1820s, especially in the Northeast, and later attempted to become a major party by expanding its platform to take positions on other issues. It declined quickly after 1832 as most members joined the new Whig Party; it disappeared after 1838.
The party was founded following the disappearance of William Morgan, a former Mason who had become a prominent critic of the Masonic organization. Many believed that Masons had murdered Morgan for speaking out against Masonry and subsequently many churches and other groups condemned Masonry. As many Masons were prominent businessmen and politicians, the backlash against the Masons was also a form of anti-elitism. The Anti-Masons purported that Masons posed a threat to American republicanism by secretly trying to control the government. Furthermore, there was a strong fear that Masonry was hostile to Christianity. [/quote]
[quote]The Anti-Masonic Party was formed in Upstate New York in February 1828. Anti-Masons were opponents of Freemasonry, believing that it was a corrupt and elitist secret society which was ruling much of the country in defiance of republican principles. Many people regarded the Masonic organization and its adherents involved in government as corrupt.[/quote]
I don't see any problem with supporting transparency and opposed to back-door-deals... If you have a country with millions of Masons... You're not going to have a transparent government, military , or corporations.
If we have a Separation of Church & State... nothing wrong with supporting a separation of Masonry & Government.... but we've long passed the point of no return on that.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979241]
[B]If we have a Separation of Church & State... nothing wrong with supporting a separation of Masonry & Government....[/B] but we've long passed the point of no return on that.[/QUOTE]
These aren't even remotely close to the same concepts. Separation of Church and State means we shouldn't use religion to create laws or determine what is good and bad. We should determine those things on our own. What is separation of Masonry & Government? No one who is a mason should be allowed in the Government? The only way that would be comparable is if we said no Christian is allowed in the Government.
There are nearly 1,000,000 masons in the US. I know several and they are all Christian men with good intentions. Their meetings are usually just about helping each other have a positive impact on the world. Banning these men from the Gov would be retarded.
Democrats were the ones censoring things that turned out to be true. We know who the real fascist are.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xF9zQBCAHg4[/url]
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14979576]Democrats were the ones censoring things that turned out to be true. We know who the real fascist are.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xF9zQBCAHg4[/URL][/QUOTE]
Usual stuff, blame everything to Biden and Democrats and the fascist's favorite accusing in the mirror tactic.
Meanwhile, Trump's WH ban AP for using "Gulf of Mexico" and Elon's Twitter just bans links to Signal, a secured messaging app fed workers are using. Free speech, huh? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979575]I know several and they are all Christian men with good intentions. Their meetings are usually just about helping each other have a positive impact on the world.[/QUOTE]
Well $hit... I guess you changed my mind on the subject.
I didn't know what their meetings were about because they are basically a secret society... but now that you've explained what their meetings are about, I guess I had the wrong idea.
As long as they have good intentions... I don't see any problem with having a secret society intertwined with our government I suppose.
Since you seem to know so much about Masonic Meetings... can you tell me what the Skull & Bones meetings are about?
[video=youtube;82UKmX2nDE0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82UKmX2nDE0[/video]
Doomsday Dallas, if greedy rich men want to meet in the shadows and make greedy deals, that is about [B]THEM[/B] and not the lame country club they are all a member of.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979592]Doomsday Dallas, if greedy rich men want to meet in the shadows and make greedy deals, that is about [B]THEM[/B] and not the lame country club they are all a member of.[/QUOTE]
So basically what you are saying is the anti-masonic party in the 1800's didn't have any valid points? Got you.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979595]So basically what you are saying is the anti-masonic party in the 1800's didn't have any valid points? Got you.[/QUOTE]
lol. I have no idea what that party was about, but given it was in the 1800s they probably had tons of retarded "points". Maybe try sticking with current times, and not times when owning slaves was socially accepted.
My point is that bad men do bad things. It's on THEM and not the club they are in.
There are bad Christians, and there are good Christians. The people that are doing the harm should be blamed, not the Bible. And the people who are doing good in the world should get the credit, not the Bible.
People themselves are at the root of issues.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979596]lol. I have no idea what that party was about, but given it was in the 1800s they probably had tons of retarded "points". Maybe try sticking with current times, and not times when owning slaves was socially accepted.
My point is that bad men do bad things. It's on THEM and not the club they are in.[/QUOTE]
Ok... your video was from 19 F*cking 47.... Blacks weren't socially accepted at that time either.
[video=youtube;VAFd4FdbJxs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAFd4FdbJxs[/video]
My video being old is part of the point, the same mindsets that led to Nazi Germany can be seen today.
Carlin is kind of saying the exact same thing I am. These people have converging interests. It's on [B]THEM[/B].
The lack of more parties is on the American people though. Every election there are more than just Democrats and Republicans on the ballot. We actually have to vote for them. Which is another topic entirely.
If humans can gather together and make money they will. If someone has a gimmick business idea to sell garbage to people at a high price then others will join him in that "conspiracy" and they might all get rich together ripping people off. But the company itself isn't the issue. The issue is THEM.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979599]My video being old is part of the point, the same mindsets that led to Nazi Germany can be seen today.[/QUOTE]
and my political party example of the 1800s is part of the point... the concerns that they had in those days about Freemasonry can be seen today.
Masonry is a gateway to elitism and is the real "deep state".... The reasons why Masons are vital to the Military & Government & Big Business is because these people know how to keep secrets.
Most Judges are going to be Freemasons... and if that's the case... do you think they are going to judge fairly?
If you have a Judicial System primarily composed of Freemasons... do you think this is going to provide the social justice you liberals so often crave? No... it will not.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979611]
Most Judges are going to be Freemasons... and if that's the case... do you think they are going to judge fairly?
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Some will judge fairly, some won't. Whether or not they are fair or biased is about [U][B]THEM[/B][/U].
Most judges are going to be religious, should we declare that religion is evil? Or should we be logical and judge each person as individuals instead?
I think you just like the mythos and mystic of Freemasonry and not the reality of it. The reality is that not all US Judges attend a secret mason meeting where they are instructed how to judge.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979627]The reality is that not all US Judges attend a secret mason meeting where they are instructed how to judge.[/QUOTE]
it's a brotherhood... more like a fraternity.
The Judge is going to help his other masonic lawyer and District Attorney friends where he sees fit.
If I'm a Freemason Lawyer... and need the Freemason Judge to throw out a case... or need a good plea deal for my client.... it's not gonna be very hard to do if I'm familiar with the Masonic Code.
But go ahead and believe that all these Masons do is organize Softball Leagues and go Bowling with each other on the weekends... go ahead and believe they are all men of Christian Faith.
It's funny though... Masons must be the most perfect group of people ever to exist... you never hear anything bad about them in the media. And like I said, most people don't even know they exist.
There is corruption in the Church, Government, Corporate World, Politics... Corruption everywhere... but when it comes to Masonic Lodges and it's members... nothing.
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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979634]it's a brotherhood... more like a fraternity.
The Judge is going to help his other masonic lawyer and District Attorney friends where he sees fit.
If I'm a Freemason Lawyer... and need the Freemason Judge to throw out a case... or need a good plea deal for my client.... it's not gonna be very hard to do if I'm familiar with the Masonic Code.
But go ahead and believe that all these Masons do is organize Softball Leagues and go Bowling with each other on the weekends... go ahead and believe they are all men of Christian Faith.
It's funny though... Masons must be the most perfect group of people ever to exist... you never hear anything bad about them in the media. And like I said, most people don't even know they exist.
There is corruption in the Church, Government, Corporate World, Politics... Corruption everywhere... but when it comes to Masonic Lodges and it's members... nothing.[/QUOTE]
You're kind of seeing it. Masons all have separate meetings in separate "lodges" throughout the US. Just like there are different churches with different value systems and different people preaching different things, masonic lodges are just like that. Some of them are literally just dudes getting together for beers. I think where you are misguided is in believing they are inherently evil due to some dumb videos you watched. Wealthy white men are high % mason, and SOME of them are bad people who make greedy decisions. But it is THEM doing the bad things, and not the masonic code. You're clearly very lost in this and nothing I saying will talk any sense into you. But maybe someone else reading this will be reassured that you are in fact misguided.
[video=youtube;3SPaDhw4PIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SPaDhw4PIQ[/video]
Freemason are like the "Good Mafia" according to Bill Gates assessment.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979638]
Freemason are like the "Good Mafia" according to Bill Gates assessment.[/QUOTE]
No, you're not actually reading my words.
Some people are BAD, some people are GOOD. But it is THEM and not whatever organization they are in. Do you get it yet?
I mean do you literally believe all masons are bad people? If so, get off you computer right now and go outside and talk to real people.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979639]No, you're not actually reading my words.
Some people are BAD, some people are GOOD. But it is THEM and not whatever organization they are in. Do you get it yet?
I mean do you literally believe all masons are bad people? If so, get off you computer right now and go outside and talk to real people.[/QUOTE]
The point you are making is retarded.
It's clear that there are some organizations where every member is Bad... everyone. Al Queda, MS13 for example... you think there are some good apples in that group?
There is not an organization out there where you can say everyone is good... but there are organizations where you can definitely say everyone is bad.
Masonry is different... Obviously there are millions of good masons throughout the world... but the craft ultimately leads to corruption & secrecy and in my opinion should not be embedded in our political system the way it is... Hence the Anti-Masonic party grew to what it was because people in those days could see it for the threat it is.... you on the other hand cannot and do not see SECRECY as a threat and are simply anti-conspiracy.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979641]The point you are making is retarded.
It's clear that there are some organizations where every member is Bad... everyone. Al Queda, MS13 for example... you think there are some good apples in that group?
There is not an organization out there where you can say everyone is good... but there are organizations where you can definitely say everyone is bad.
Masonry is different... Obviously there are millions of good masons throughout the world... but the craft ultimately leads to corruption & secrecy and in my opinion should not be embedded in our political system the way it is... Hence the Anti-Masonic party grew to what it was because people in those days could see it for the threat it is.... you on the other hand cannot and do not see SECRECY as a threat and are simply anti-conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
An underground network of child abusers would have a 100% bad apple rate, but that is because it is only bad people seeking them out. MS13 and Al Queda have literal babies born into them. Things of that nature are a different breed. Some cartel baby is out there killing simply because it is all they know. They themselves my not be bad people underneath.
Masonry is completely different. USUALLY it is good hearted men with good intentions seeking it out. Whatever the internet brainwashed you with is off, sorry. I can see by the videos you've posted in here that you have been influenced by them. You should go outside and meet some for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979646]An underground network of child abusers would have a 100% bad apple rate, but that is because it is only bad people seeking them out. MS13 and Al Queda have literal babies born into them. Things of that nature are a different breed. Some cartel baby is out there killing simply because it is all they know. They themselves my not be bad people underneath.
Masonry is completely different. USUALLY it is good hearted men with good intentions seeking it out. Whatever the internet brainwashed you with is off, sorry. I can see by the videos you've posted in here that you have been influenced by them. You should go outside and meet some for yourself and come to your own conclusions.[/QUOTE]
You don't think I've met Masons? Me of all people? You don't think I've spoken to these people and had discussions about it?
What do you think I'm like wanting these people dead? Jesus.
If you're going to continuously disregard my point about the anti-masonic party... and why that political movement gained popularity....
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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979649]You don't think I've met Masons? Me of all people? You don't think I've spoken to these people and had discussions about it?
What do you think I'm like wanting these people dead? Jesus.
If you're going to continuously disregard my point about the anti-masonic party... and why that political movement gained popularity....
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The existence of an anti-masonic party in the 1800s means nothing to me, and it shouldn't mean anything to you. I can see they only existed for two short spurts and it looks like only in New York and Pennsylvania.
I mean today we have a Church of Satan that opposes the corruption of religion and supports individualism, does that mean something to you?
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979659]The existence of an anti-masonic party in the 1800s means nothing to me, and it shouldn't mean anything to you.[/QUOTE]
again, nobody knows what the f*ck a Mason is, so nobody is ever going to know that the anti-masonic party ever existed... but it was kind of a big deal at the time it was around.
You have no idea what happens within the fraternal order of Freemasonry... and that's because it's based on secret oaths and secret codes... Masons carrying out those secret proceedings are usually pretty important people in today's world. If you think that's a good thing to have mixed in with politics & justice then you lack common sense. But then again, maybe I'm wrong, because supposedly Masons are the grand architect of the world we live in today... maybe the civilized world we live in today is the best the Masons could do to guide humanity in the right direction. I'm sure the Masons do have good intentions but that's what the path to hell is paved with.
It's important to remember that the country was founded on Masonic Principles... Most people think it was founded on Christianity, but it was really the Masons that founded America. They founded NASA too.
Also important to note that the Catholic Church opposes Freemasonry
[quote]The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a declaration on the Freemasons within the same year, clarifying that despite a change in the wording, there has been no change to the Church’s opposition to Freemasonry and that joining any Masonic association is still a grave sin that bars one from receiving Communion.
“Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden,” the document reads. “The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive holy Communion.”[/quote]
[video=youtube;A2FlVkvZT_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2FlVkvZT_Q[/video]
Bill gates spent his whole day getting prison raped by doom
lmao
You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.
I am Batman.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979752]You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.
I am Batman.[/QUOTE]
Doom likes movies.
Johnny Sic likes Facebook memes.
warriorfan likes ad hominem.
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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979752]You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.
I am Batman.[/QUOTE]
I don't feel like going another 12 rounds today... The bottom line is Masonry is based on secrecy,... which is not ideal for politics if your hope is to have a transparent government.
It's not rocket-science.
The same cannot be said for almost every other religion.... you don't have to become a Christian, Jew, or Muslim to understand what it's all about. You literally have to become a Mason to know what Masonry is... because once again, it's based on secrets.
if you don't see a problem with our Government, Military, and Major Business plagued with secret oath keeping, secret handshaking Masons... Then you might as well subscribe to the idea that ignorance is bliss.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979765]I don't feel like going another 12 rounds today... The bottom line is Masonry is based on secrecy,... which is not ideal for politics if your hope is to have a transparent government.
It's not rocket-science.
The same cannot be said for almost every other religion.... you don't have to become a Christian, Jew, or Muslim to understand what it's all about. You literally have to become a Mason to know what Masonry is... because once again, it's based on secrets.
if you don't see a problem with our Government, Military, and Major Business plagued with secret oath keeping, secret handshaking Masons... Then you might as well subscribe to the idea that ignorance is bliss.[/QUOTE]
Okay, but my entire point was that bad men will meet in secret and do bad things with or without whatever frat or country club they are a part of. Greedy powerful men are going to try and do greedy things no matter what. Banning freemasonry wouldn't prevent secrets from happening. It is not rocket-science. You're pointing your finger at the wrong place.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14979773]Okay, but my entire point was that bad men will meet in secret and do bad things with or without whatever frat or country club they are a part of. Greedy powerful men are going to try and do greedy things no matter what. Banning freemasonry wouldn't prevent secrets from happening. It is not rocket-science. You're pointing your finger at the wrong place.[/QUOTE]
No, it's actually common sense that you wouldn't want a secret society dominating politics & government.... Is there any stopping it at this point? No there is not... But at one point in time, they tried.
[video=youtube;na2xjSmUslE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na2xjSmUslE[/video]
Why would the anti-masonic party want to keep Masons out of public office? Why? Why?
It's not rocket science to answer that question.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14979784]Why would the anti-masonic party want to keep Masons out of public office? Why? Why?
It's not rocket science to answer that question.[/QUOTE]
From what I am reading they claimed there was corruption, as you are now. But that was nearly 200 years ago :oldlol:
It's literally the exact same thing as Republicans saying Democrats are corrupt and vice-versa.
Every opposing party claims the other side is corrupt.
But freemasonry was MUCH more common back then (as you can see from the video in the OP). So an anti-mason group is much more logical for those times.
But also this party you are doing back flips over only existed in 2 states.