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Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
All he needed was for at least one of his teammates to join in on the action
[video=youtube;2cwcrmWKDcs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cwcrmWKDcs[/video]
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That was hilarious. PUTA!
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We need barberschool to check homies ears. Are they small and curled? :lol
Its crazy because ive heard cousins speak on a couple podcasts recently and hes actually very well spoken. Doesn't sound like hood or anything. Dude just has a super low threshold for becoming emotional and acting out. Its fascinating to see. Russell Westbrook is the same way. They have such poor impulse control for some reason.
Anyways got a good little laugh watching them dump shit on him while the trainers scrambled to hold him back like some type of ****ing loose gorilla. And the more he fought the more popcorn and soda that got dumped on his dome.
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Gotta love the cousins psychological breakdown. While the fans just get to act how they want free of judgement and criticism. No breakdown on the psyche of a fan who throws drinks/things at someone while hurling insults and curses? Normal behavior. Got it. lol
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That tunnel scene was a carbon copy of Malice at the Palace.
Cousins will always be on edge to be in these types of situations even if it's not his fault because he's an intense person with a short trigger. If he choses to get sucked in by what fans say (and they say a lot of bullshit in the NBA, I can't imagine some Puerto Rican league) then this will always be a possibility.
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[QUOTE=tpols;15013039]Its crazy because ive heard cousins speak on a couple podcasts recently and hes actually very well spoken. Doesn't sound like hood or anything. Dude just has a super low threshold for becoming emotional and acting out. Its fascinating to see. Russell Westbrook is the same way. They have such poor impulse control for some reason.[/QUOTE]
The most recent podcast I saw him on was Gil's Arena and he became emotional when Nick Young disagreed with him over if it was a harder to put up stats on a bad team or easier. Nick was on the side that it was easier because no one cares about scouting your bad team. Cousins was on the side that it was harder because teams only had to scout the good player to shut him down. Cousins became upset when Nick said nobody was scouting the Kings to shut down Cousins. They'd just go into Sacramento and whoop their ass. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Meticode;15013062]The most recent podcast I saw him on was Gil's Arena and he became emotional when Nick Young disagreed with him over if it was a harder to put up stats on a bad team or easier. Nick was on the side that it was easier because no one cares about scouting your bad team. Cousins was on the side that it was harder because teams only had to scout the good player to shut him down. Cousins became upset when Nick said nobody was scouting the Kings to shut down Cousins. They'd just go into Sacramento and whoop their ass. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I did see that podcast and nick young was funny af in that exchange. "Ain't nobody worried about yall". :lol
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[video]https://youtube.com/shorts/MizPfVupk7M?si=C65gtB1ZCBH6DzBM[/video]
That was the clip. Young roasted his ass.
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[QUOTE=tpols;15013068]I did see that podcast and nick young was funny af in that exchange. "Ain't nobody worried about yall". :lol[/QUOTE]
That was a pretty good episode because Nick gets emotional too, but he's passive aggressive about it like he's in middle school or something. He makes backhanded comments, but looks off into the distance when he does it. Then you got Kenyon Martin opposite of him and has threated to beat his ass talking like an old head. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=tpols;15013069][video]https://youtube.com/shorts/MizPfVupk7M?si=C65gtB1ZCBH6DzBM[/video]
That was the clip. Young roasted his ass.[/QUOTE]
Nick young is childish. Which is why Kmart told him to STFU. Nick doesn’t have the brains to counter Cousins valid argument.
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[QUOTE=Meticode;15013062]The most recent podcast I saw him on was Gil's Arena and he became emotional when Nick Young disagreed with him over if it was a harder to put up stats on a bad team or easier. Nick was on the side that it was easier because no one cares about scouting your bad team. Cousins was on the side that it was harder because teams only had to scout the good player to shut him down. Cousins became upset when Nick said nobody was scouting the Kings to shut down Cousins. They'd just go into Sacramento and whoop their ass. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
The main reason the kings were bad was because of cousins. The guy still doesnt get it
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013078]The main reason the kings were bad was because of cousins. The guy still doesnt get it[/QUOTE]
Dude is an idiot for putting his hands on that fan, he escalated the situation. Emotional maturity of a 10 year old.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013078]The main reason the kings were bad was because of cousins. The guy still doesnt get it[/QUOTE]
And he will forever be recognized as a better player than Rudy Gobert.
But it’s pretty moronic to pin blame on a cousins for he kings being bad considering the franchise is still a laughing stock. What pick do they have in the lottery? They seem to live there with or without cousins. But blame cousins for them being bad. Got it.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;15013075]Nick young is childish. Which is why Kmart told him to STFU. Nick doesn’t have the brains to counter Cousins valid argument.[/QUOTE]
GOBB why don't you go treat yourself to a snickers bar. Put it in the freezer for a little bit and enjoy pal. You're extra ornery lately.
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[QUOTE=tpols;15013097]GOBB why don't you go treat yourself to a snickers bar. Put it in the freezer for a little bit and enjoy pal. You're extra ornery lately.[/QUOTE]
For saying Nick Young is childish and immature? Great take. You enjoy when he tries to be funny ruining convos. Got it. I don’t eat candy. That’s why some of you are overweight.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;15013084]And he will forever be recognized as a better player than Rudy Gobert.
But it’s pretty moronic to pin blame on a cousins for he kings being bad considering the franchise is still a laughing stock. What pick do they have in the lottery? They seem to live there with or without cousins. But blame cousins for them being bad. Got it.[/QUOTE]
Gobert will be in the hall of fame. Cousins was an inefficient, pouting, underachieving loser. If he was yhe great player he was touted to be kings wouldnt have sucked. Jazz sucked until gobert changed that. They still sucked when he wasnt on the floor. Suck again now that hes gone
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So.nobody here besides GOBB faults the fans for throwing things at him?:biggums: I think any coward that throws things at performers shoud be collected by security and locked in a room with the person they threw it at for a few minutes and we'd never see a fan throw something else. Ask the guy who threw something at 50 cent years ago and got life altering injuries from his security if his paid ticket was worth that receipt.....
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[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15013112]So.nobody here besides GOBB faults the fans for throwing things at him?:biggums: I think any coward that throws things at performers shoud be collected by security and locked in a room with the person they threw it at for a few minutes and we'd never see a fan throw something else. Ask the guy who threw something at 50 cent years ago and got life altering injuries from his security if his paid ticket was worth that receipt.....[/QUOTE]
You lose sympathy when you start the conflict by making physical contact with a fan, not once but twice. A crying taunt isn't an excuse to do anything, nor is a middle finger. DeMarcus escalated the situation and the fans finished it.
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15013114]You lose sympathy when you start the conflict by making physical contact with a fan, not once but twice. A crying taunt isn't an excuse to do anything, nor is a middle finger. DeMarcus escalated the situation and the fans finished it.[/QUOTE]
I can see that but what does the fans who threw the objects have to do with the previous altercation? If you're at a bar and a fight breaks out on the other side of the venue, do you throw drinks at the guys after its broken up?
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013108]Gobert will be in the hall of fame. Cousins was an inefficient, pouting, underachieving loser. If he was yhe great player he was touted to be kings wouldnt have sucked. Jazz sucked until gobert changed that. They still sucked when he wasnt on the floor. Suck again now that hes gone[/QUOTE]
He will get in for his defense. Not for carrying a franchise from losers to winners. Everything you’re bagging on Cousins not to be for the Kings? Those expectations were on a Rudy Gobert. His job was to anchor a defense. Nothing more nothing less. You put Rudy in place of Cousins on the Kings and guess what? They weren’t winners. And you wouldn’t blame Rudy for it. Go figure.
The Jazz being bad is more layered than not having Rudy Gobert.
Why have the kings been so bad in nearly 2 decades? Before they drafted Cousins they stunk for a couple seasons. After cousins left they stunk not factoring in that one season with Mike Brown. Franchise is a joke putting together a winner from developing talent, drafting, trades, coach hiring/firing. I won’t include free agency for obvious reasons.
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15013114]You lose sympathy when you start the conflict by making physical contact with a fan, not once but twice. A crying taunt isn't an excuse to do anything, nor is a middle finger. DeMarcus escalated the situation and the fans finished it.[/QUOTE]
So basically fans can act like savages is what you’re saying. Becuase the ones who threw things were on the OTHER side of the court. Why are fans throwing things to begin with? How are folks really justifying that behavior with “cousins started it, fans finished it”? The malice in the place happened becuase a fan inserted themselves in a situation they had no business. By launching a cup of beer. Fan behavior has been excused too much. Nothing happened to the fans who threw shyt at Cousins.
So remove them and place them in a room with Cousins. See how that ends. It’s cowardly to throw things. But becuase people don’t like cousins you give it passes. lol
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[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15013117]I can see that but what does the fans who threw the objects have to do with the previous altercation? If you're at a bar and a fight breaks out on the other side of the venue, do you throw drinks at the guys after its broken up?[/QUOTE]
I think it ties into the fan-player dynamic. When Cousins did that to the two fans, he may as well have done it to all of them. He overstepped the line twice, and the fans returned serve the second time. The action isn't justified, there's just less sympathy. Not to mention the home-versus-away factor of playing in an opponent's home stadium.
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Gobb was really begging for attention ITT
:roll:
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[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15013112]So.nobody here besides GOBB faults the fans for throwing things at him?:biggums: I think any coward that throws things at performers shoud be collected by security and locked in a room with the person they threw it at for a few minutes and we'd never see a fan throw something else. Ask the guy who threw something at 50 cent years ago and got life altering injuries from his security if his paid ticket was worth that receipt.....[/QUOTE]
So if a fan wants to have a bar brawl with a player all they have to do is throw something at them? You'll discourage one type of fan and encourage a whole other type of fan that's totally down for that even if the athlete isn't LOL.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;15013120]So basically fans can act like savages is what you’re saying. Becuase the ones who threw things were on the OTHER side of the court. Why are fans throwing things to begin with? How are folks really justifying that behavior with “cousins started it, fans finished it”? The malice in the place happened becuase a fan inserted themselves in a situation they had no business. By launching a cup of beer. Fan behavior has been excused too much. Nothing happened to the fans who threw shyt at Cousins.
So remove them and place them in a room with Cousins. See how that ends. It’s cowardly to throw things. But becuase people don’t like cousins you give it passes. lol[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it was justified, just that there's less sympathy. True, two wrongs don't make a right. Most people just don't care because they have a solid idea of his character by now.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;15013118]He will get in for his defense. Not for carrying a franchise from losers to winners. Everything you’re bagging on Cousins not to be for the Kings? Those expectations were on a Rudy Gobert. His job was to anchor a defense. Nothing more nothing less. You put Rudy in place of Cousins on the Kings and guess what? They weren’t winners. And you wouldn’t blame Rudy for it. Go figure.
The Jazz being bad is more layered than not having Rudy Gobert.
Why have the kings been so bad in nearly 2 decades? Before they drafted Cousins they stunk for a couple seasons. After cousins left they stunk not factoring in that one season with Mike Brown. Franchise is a joke putting together a winner from developing talent, drafting, trades, coach hiring/firing. I won’t include free agency for obvious reasons.[/QUOTE]
Gobert is going in the hof but cousins is better? Doesnt make much sense. Gobert is a team player. He makes his teams better at both ends of the floor. Yes the kings owner sucks. Cant blame cousins being a pos on him. Kings would have been good with gobert as every team with him is. He helps his team. Doesnt pout. Doesnt try to do things hes not strong at. Doesnt rest at one end of the floor. The jazz would have sucked if cousins is there instead of gobert. Just as they sucked with kantner, favors, hayward, burks, snyder etc. Before gobert made them good. Cousins wouldnt have been pouting, taking bad shots, not playing d f he was on another team?
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013132]Gobert is going in the hof but cousins is better? Doesnt make much sense. Gobert is a team player. He makes his teams better at both ends of the floor. Yes the kings owner sucks. Cant blame cousins being a pos on him. Kings would have been good with gobert as every team with him is. He helps his team. Doesnt pout. Doesnt try to do things hes not strong at. Doesnt rest at one end of the floor. The jazz would have sucked if cousins is there instead of gobert. Just as they sucked with kantner, favors, hayward, burks, snyder etc. Before gobert made them good. Cousins wouldnt have been pouting, taking bad shots, not playing d f he was on another team?[/QUOTE]
IMO, Cousins was a great NBA player that just got unlucky. He was drafted to a very bad franchise in a strong conference and therefore lost a lot of games. Then, he was traded to the Pelicans but with AD's injuries it didn't work out. And when he finally was in a winning situation in Golden State he got sidelined. He could have had a way better career in other circunstances. And yes, he was a headcase and immature, and it seems that has not changed.
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I've been very harsh on DMC in the past, but he was the victim of two things: circumstance & era. A more stable team + coming into the league 7-8 years later, would've empowered his game. He proved to be an effective three-point shooter (35.2% on 4.7 3pa/g over 185 games between 2016-2018). Unfortunately, he got injured right as that league-wide shift occurred.
He played better as a modern-style big playing outside-in shooting threes and slashing to the rim. Occasional post-up, here and there. Improved his shot quality, drew more fouls, and enhanced his playmaking.
In today's NBA, he's KAT with less efficiency but more defense. Stick him on HOU instead of Sengun and he'd get All-Star selections and playoff appearances. Boosted resume and reputation
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[QUOTE=pandiani17;15013139]IMO, Cousins was a great NBA player that just got unlucky. He was drafted to a very bad franchise in a strong conference and therefore lost a lot of games. Then, he was traded to the Pelicans but with AD's injuries it didn't work out. And when he finally was in a winning situation in Golden State he got sidelined. He could have had a way better career in other circunstances. And yes, he was a headcase and immature, and it seems that has not changed.[/QUOTE]
He was a great talent not a great player. Big difference. Cant see going to a different franchise changes who he is. Everything he says these days tells me he still doesnt have a clue. He wouldnt have taken bad shots on a different team? He would have played d? He wouldnt have pouted and blamed everything on others? Great players make their own luck. If hed been in the best shape possible maybe he doesnt have a knee injury? Maybe it would have kept him from being lazy on d and taking bad shots on offense? If he had a clue maybe he would have made those around him better instead of placing his problems on others.
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15013142]I've been very harsh on DMC in the past, but he was the victim of two things: circumstance & era. A more stable team + coming into the league 7-8 years later, would've empowered his game. He proved to be an effective three-point shooter (35.2% on 4.7 3pa/g over 185 games between 2016-2018). Unfortunately, he got injured right as that league-wide shift occurred.
He played better as a modern-style big playing outside-in shooting threes and slashing to the rim. Occasional post-up, here and there. Improved his shot quality, drew more fouls, and enhanced his playmaking.
In today's NBA, he's KAT with less efficiency but more defense.[/QUOTE]
Would have been put on an island defensively today and been an even bigger liability at that end than he was. Kat was a good team defender last year with great defenders around him. Kat also not a headcase that pouts and brings his whole team down with his selfishness. Kat is an elite shooter. 35% is ok for a big
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013147]Would have been put on an island defensively today and been an even bigger liability at that end than he was. Kat was a good team defender last year with great defenders around him. Kat also not a headcase that pouts and brings his whole team down with his selfishness. Kat is an elite shooter. 35% is ok for a big[/QUOTE]
Cousins pre-injury was a solid defender. Comfortably better than KAT. Longer, stronger, better rim protector, and a more active defensive playmaker. 4.3 STOP% (1.7% above LA) vs. KAT's 2.4 STOP% (0% above LA).
STOP% = Steals + offensive fouls drawn + recovered blocks per 100 possessions.
LA = league average
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15013158]Cousins pre-injury was a solid defender. Comfortably better than KAT. Longer, stronger, better rim protector, and a more active defensive playmaker. 4.3 STOP% (1.7% above LA) vs. KAT's 2.4 STOP% (0% above LA).
STOP% = Steals + offensive fouls drawn + recovered blocks per 100 possessions.
LA = league average[/QUOTE]
Blocks and steals dont show you are a good defender. He was lazy. More likely he would have been down at the other end pouting and whining to the refs or getting into itvwith fans than getting back on d
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013161]Blocks and steals dont show you are a good defender. He was lazy. More likely he would have been down at the other end pouting and whining to the refs or getting into itvwith fans than getting back on d[/QUOTE]
Obviously. But it proves he's a better defensive playmaker. And here are some rim protection stats:
KAT:
9.1 rim contests per 100
-1.8% DFG
0.4 rim points saved per 100
DMC:
9.9 rim contests per 100
-5.4% DFG
1.1 rim points saved per 100
And those are career numbers, not just pre-injury for Cousins. He peaked in 2016-17 at 8.9 rim contests per 100, -8.8% DFG, and 1.6 rim points saved per 100. KAT's best was 2018-19: 10.7 rim contests per 100, -4.5% DFG, and 1.0 rim points saved per 100.
Best three 3-year DRAPMs:
DMC:
2013-2015: +1.8 (46th in the NBA)
2014-2016: +3.6 (5th in the NBA)
2015-2017: +2.1 (37th in the NBA)
KAT:
2017-2019: -0.7 (410th in the NBA)
2021-2023: +0.5 (183rd in the NBA)
2022-2024: +0.9 (137th in the NBA)
DMC was a comfortably better defender.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15013132]Gobert is going in the hof but cousins is better? Doesnt make much sense. Gobert is a team player. He makes his teams better at both ends of the floor. Yes the kings owner sucks. Cant blame cousins being a pos on him. Kings would have been good with gobert as every team with him is. He helps his team. Doesnt pout. Doesnt try to do things hes not strong at. Doesnt rest at one end of the floor. The jazz would have sucked if cousins is there instead of gobert. Just as they sucked with kantner, favors, hayward, burks, snyder etc. Before gobert made them good. Cousins wouldnt have been pouting, taking bad shots, not playing d f he was on another team?[/QUOTE]
You can call cousins what you will. Doesn’t change the fact the situation with the Kings wasn’t a good one. And that’s been proven before and after him. Two things can be right. You went to step over the dog shyt and point out the litter instead. Not sure why.
Gobert wouldn’t have won in the same situation. You don’t want to agree to this because you feel it’ll be ammo used by someone or others whenever gobert is discussed. Gobert defense is not that good to change that franchises decision making. Apparently you’re that much of a Rudy fan you think so. Crazy
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It never ceases to amaze me how much of losers a lot of NBA players are after retirement.
No development at all in any way. Why even play basketball under these circumstances? Grow the **** up. Find a new way to think. A new way to live.
You even see and hear it in podcasts. The players are so dumb and small-minded. They sound like regular everyday idiots.
Kobe saying he wanted to be remembered as more than a player after he retired rubbed me the wrong way, but he knew what I didn’t. And that’s just how pathetic most guys are post-retirement.
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Cousins was always a loser though. You still hear itvin the things he says. I cant see being drafted anywhere else changing that
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[QUOTE=999Guy;15013170]It never ceases to amaze me how much of losers a lot of NBA players are after retirement.
No development at all in any way. Why even play basketball under these circumstances? Grow the **** up. Find a new way to think. A new way to live.
You even see and hear it in podcasts. The players are so dumb and small-minded. They sound like regular everyday idiots.
Kobe saying he wanted to be remembered as more than a player after he retired rubbed me the wrong way, but he knew what I didn’t. And that’s just how pathetic most guys are post-retirement.[/QUOTE]
“…but he knew what I didn’t”.
More fans should apply this when they are overly critical of athletes.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;15013125]Gobb was really begging for attention ITT
:roll:[/QUOTE]
So I was searching to a thread in off court since the search engine here is still dog shyt. And came across a thread where you either talked about being unbanned or were banned here. Didn’t read it thoroughly because I instant shook my head which impaired my vision. That said you really get banned on message boards? You really throw welcome back parties? Proud of yourself much? lol
I’ve never been banned nor will I be as much of a douche too. I don’t even want to know what you did/said to get banned.
Don’t mind me I’m just looking for attention. The only one here that does that…