Report: Grizz ship Bane to Magic for Caldwell-Pope, Anthony, 4 1st-round picks
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Report: Grizz ship Bane to Magic for Caldwell-Pope, Anthony, 4 1st-round picks
[url]https://thescore.com/nba/news/3300417[/url]
Orlando got its shooter.
I like Bane, but that's a lot to give up.
Orlando seems desperate
Memphis rebuilding
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15014694]Orlando got its shooter.[/QUOTE]
Feels like a slight overpay but sometimes you got to make a move. In an East that looks like a toss up I like it.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15014695]I like Bane, but that's a lot to give up.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes you have to overpay to take the next step. They weren't going to get any better just running it back again.
Suns are looking at the teams interested in Durant and are like, "Bane was worth 4 draft picks + 1, gimme gimme gimme."
Bane must have screwed up royally to get exiled
That Phx/Wash pick swap next draft hurts like hell. Sheesh.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014700]Sometimes you have to overpay to take the next step. They weren't going to get any better just running it back again.[/QUOTE]
Maybe. Or you could end up like the Clippers when they gave away rookie SGA and a bunch of first round picks for Paul George.
I'm curious how the lineup is going to look. Suggs and Bane play the same position.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014715]I'm curious how the lineup is going to look. Suggs and Bane play the same position.[/QUOTE]
You’re caught up in “positions” and not abilities. Bane is a great facilitator.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15014719]You’re caught up in “positions” and not abilities. Bane is a great facilitator.[/QUOTE]
We'll see. Two small guard lineups don't work in today's NBA usually. Especially when one has t-rex arms. Hopefully Bane can find his form from two and three seasons ago. He regressed this past season.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014721]We'll see. Two small guard lineups don't work in today's NBA usually. Especially when one has t-rex arms. Hopefully Bane can find his form from two and three seasons ago. He regressed this past season.[/QUOTE]
Small? Both 6’5. How did it work in Memphis? How small is Minny?
I don’t think their size is an issue. I’m not too sold on Suggs tho
Bane ain’t worth that much. :roll:
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014700]Sometimes you have to overpay to take the next step. They weren't going to get any better just running it back again.[/QUOTE]
Good post
[QUOTE=Wally450;15014724]Bane ain’t worth that much. :roll:[/QUOTE]
He’s not but now orlando is going to smoke you next season
[QUOTE=GOBB;15014722]Small? Both 6’5. How did it work in Memphis? Minny?[/QUOTE]
Edwards makes up for it with his athleticism. It worked out so well for Memphis that they're trading one of those 6'5" guards. They might be listed at 6'5", but we all know they ain't 6'5".
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014728]Edwards makes up for it with his athleticism. It worked out so well for Memphis that they're trading one of those 6'5" guards. They might be listed at 6'5", but we all know they ain't 6'5".[/QUOTE]
Small has nothing to do with athleticism tho. You tried to imply their a midget backcourt and they doesn’t work too well. Worked well for Minny. But becuase it did you want to use Anthony Edwards athleticism instead of saying “Ok that’s one team”. Then you try to spin it not working in Memphis because they traded Bane? When bane wasn’t traded becuase Memphis said “small backcourts don’t work man”. Like come on man.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15014730]Small has nothing to do with athleticism tho. You tried to imply their a midget backcourt and they doesn’t work too well. Worked well for Minny. But becuase it did you want to use Anthony Edwards athleticism instead of saying “Ok that’s one team”. Then you try to spin it not working in Memphis because they traded Bane? When bane wasn’t traded becuase Memphis said “small backcourts don’t work man”. Like come on man.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014731]Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
It’s ok you threw shyt against the wall and it didn’t stick. It happens.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014731]Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=GOBB;15014732]It’s ok you threw shyt against the wall and it didn’t stick. It happens.[/QUOTE]
No, you're argumentative like you usually are and I just don't feel like dealing with it on a Sunday morning. Plus, it ain't that serious to me. Once the Finals are over I'll be gone anyway for another 10 months again and I won't need to deal with your Philly cheesesteak ass any longer.
Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. luv ya anyway
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014735]No, you're argumentative like you usually are and I just don't feel like dealing with it on a Sunday morning. Plus, it ain't that serious to me. Once the Finals are over I'll be gone anyway for another 10 months again and I won't need to deal with your Philly cheesesteak ass any longer.
Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. luv ya anyway[/QUOTE]
No argumentative would be your reply implying Bane was traded because the small backcourt didn’t work out. He wasn’t traded becuase Memphis backcourt was small. You tried to be a smartass instead of just admitting “Ok maybe the backcourt isn’t that small as I once thought”, or “good point”. But no you think you lose something in your life by by changing your stance and agreeing with me. It’s weird.
Memphis with that small backcourt that didn’t work was trending up until Ja Morant derailed it. 50 win seasons and had fans thinking they were next up.
And I don’t care about your whereabouts after the finals. Didn’t ask you. Maybe you can start strength training and increasing your protein during that time span. Might help your confidence when you return to punch them letters submitting a post.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014735]No, you're argumentative like you usually are and I just don't feel like dealing with it on a Sunday morning. Plus, it ain't that serious to me. Once the Finals are over I'll be gone anyway for another 10 months again and I won't need to deal with your Philly cheesesteak ass any longer.
Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. luv ya anyway[/QUOTE]
No argumentative would be your reply implying Bane was traded because the small backcourt didn’t work out. He wasn’t traded becuase Memphis backcourt was small. You tried to be a smartass instead of just admitting “Ok maybe the backcourt isn’t that small as I once thought”, or “good point”. But no you think you lose something in your life by by changing your stance and agreeing with me. It’s weird.
Memphis with that small backcourt that didn’t work was trending up until Ja Morant derailed it. 50 win seasons and had fans thinking they were next up.
And I don’t care about your whereabouts after the finals. Didn’t ask you. Maybe you can start strength training and increasing your protein during that time span. Might help your confidence when you return to punch them letters submitting a post.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15014739]No argumentative would be your reply implying Bane was traded because the small backcourt didn’t work out. He wasn’t traded becuase Memphis backcourt was small. You tried to be a smartass instead of just admitting “Ok maybe the backcourt isn’t that small as I once thought”, or “good point”. But no you think you lose something in your life by by changing your stance and agreeing with me. It’s weird.
Memphis with that small backcourt that didn’t work was trending up until Ja Morant derailed it. 50 win seasons and had fans thinking they were next up.
And I don’t care about your whereabouts after the finals. Didn’t ask you. Maybe you can start strength training and increasing your protein during that time span. Might help your confidence when you return to punch them letters submitting a post.[/QUOTE]
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I can see why some people can say Bane is small even though he is 6 foot 5, dude has arms of a T-Rex.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15014743][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm-V4XWWQAAFmNy.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This always makes me laugh because it makes you question if it's real or not when obviously it's fake.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15014743][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm-V4XWWQAAFmNy.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
His standing reach is the same as Anthony Edwards and Tyler Herro. The average standing reach for a 6'5 NBA player is 8'5,8'6. So he's slightly below average. 6'5 Alex Caruso standing reach is 1.5" shorter than Bane and people almost never say he plays small. They can't all be Jalen Williams
[QUOTE=theballerFKA Ace;15014748]His standing reach is the same as Anthony Edwards and Tyler Herro. The average standing reach for a 6'5 NBA player is 8'5,8'6. So he's slightly below average. 6'5 Alex Caruso standing reach is 1.5" shorter than Bane and people almost never say he plays small. They can't all be Jalen Williams[/QUOTE]
He gets hate because he is buffed and it makes his arms look shorter than they are. He still has short arms but he’s still 6 5 and athletic. He’s not prototype but he’s a good sized SG
A great way to build a good team that isn't good enough to make the Finals and never will be is trading a ton of draft picks for one good player. Respect Orlando but they need a lot more than a good shooting guard and by shipping out 4 firsts they just made sure they won't get it. Very much reminds me of the knicks trading five firsts for Mikal Bridges. Yes he's a good player but he's not going to replace the production you should be getting for all of those assets and its in fact unfair to expect him to.
I think the magic had to do it and Memphis knew this and they took advantage of it. This should improve their team exponentially, and the fact that their draft picks the past few years besides Paulo have been either HR or straight crap Jett Howard will be out of the league soon. Anthony black has 3rd string PG written all over him. Bomba was a bust. Cole had flashes but way too inconsistent. KCP was straight up terrible, although I liked the signing at the time. His defense was solid but that not what they needed from him last year as he forgot how to shoot.
They had to gamble and they got their player. 4 picks is A LOT though. Time will tell if it was a good decision
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15014752]A great way to build a good team that isn't good enough to make the Finals and never will be is trading a ton of draft picks for one good player. Respect Orlando but they need a lot more than a good shooting guard and by shipping out 4 firsts they just made sure they won't get it. Very much reminds me of the knicks trading five firsts for Mikal Bridges. Yes he's a good player but he's not going to replace the production you should be getting for all of those assets and its in fact unfair to expect him to.[/QUOTE]
They had to do it. They need a couple 55 win seasons to right the franchise ship. Lots of rebuilding the past 20 years, it's been frustrating having potential as their rally cry.
I don't see why Orlando had to do this. The trade doesn't make them a contender and Banchero and Wagner are very young, plenty of time to continue building through the draft or just wait for a better trade. Bane averages 19 5 and 6. He's a good player. But he's not any kind of superstar that is going to make them better than the Pacers. He was the 30th pick in the draft, you have to get lucky to draft a guy as good as him that late but they just gave up 4 picks that will be earlier than 30th.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15014752]A great way to build a good team that isn't good enough to make the Finals and never will be is trading a ton of draft picks for one good player. Respect Orlando but they need a lot more than a good shooting guard and by shipping out 4 firsts they just made sure they won't get it. Very much reminds me of the knicks trading five firsts for Mikal Bridges. Yes he's a good player but he's not going to replace the production you should be getting for all of those assets and its in fact unfair to expect him to.[/QUOTE]
Indiana traded 3 firsts for Siakam and they’re in the Finals.
[QUOTE=theman93;15014771]Indiana traded 3 firsts for Siakam and they’re in the Finals.[/QUOTE]
3 firsts for a 3-time Allstar vs 4 firsts for a 0-time Allstar. To be fair Siakam only made it twice at the time of trade but I still don't see the two deals as being similar in value.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15014756]I don't see why Orlando had to do this. The trade doesn't make them a contender and Banchero and Wagner are very young, plenty of time to continue building through the draft or just wait for a better trade. Bane averages 19 5 and 6. He's a good player. But he's not any kind of superstar that is going to make them better than the Pacers. He was the 30th pick in the draft, you have to get lucky to draft a guy as good as him that late but they just gave up 4 picks that will be earlier than 30th.[/QUOTE]
We had to because we’ve been one of the worst 3 point shooting teams the past few years. Indiana isn’t some world beater. Finally give Paolo and Franz some space to operate and I see no reason why we can’t compete for the East.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15014772]3 firsts for a 3-time Allstar vs 4 firsts for a 0-time Allstar. To be fair Siakam only made it twice at the time of trade but I still don't see the two deals as being similar in value.[/QUOTE]
Let’s be honest. Bane would have been an all-star if he was playing in the East like Siakam was lol
[QUOTE=15yearmagicfan;15014753]I think the magic had to do it and Memphis knew this and they took advantage of it. This should improve their team exponentially, and the fact that their draft picks the past few years besides Paulo have been either HR or straight crap Jett Howard will be out of the league soon. Anthony black has 3rd string PG written all over him. Bomba was a bust. Cole had flashes but way too inconsistent. KCP was straight up terrible, although I liked the signing at the time. His defense was solid but that not what they needed from him last year as he forgot how to shoot.
They had to gamble and they got their player. 4 picks is A LOT though. Time will tell if it was a good decision[/QUOTE]
Bingo. We still maintained a first round selection from the Gordon trade in this years draft, and kept our first round pick in the 2026 draft. So we won’t be going without a first round pick until 2028.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15014701]Suns are looking at the teams interested in Durant and are like, "Bane was worth 4 draft picks + 1, gimme gimme gimme."[/QUOTE]
Durant is old though
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15014782]Durant is old though[/QUOTE]
Yep and he'll still get at least two years on an extension and he'll get at least $50 million/year if not more.