Blue Collar wage growth the highest it's been in almost 60yrs.

In President Donald J. Trump’s first five months in office, real wages for hourly workers have seen their largest increase under any administration in nearly 60 years — and we’re just getting started with pro-growth, pro-prosperity policies that finally put America First.

Blue-collar workers have seen real wages grow almost two percent in the first five months of President Trump’s second term — a stark contrast from the negative wage growth seen during the first five months of the Biden Administration.

“The only other time it has been this high … was during President Trump’s first term,” Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent said in an interview with the New York Post.

The New York Post notes: “Since Richard Nixon in 1969, Trump has been the only president to record positive growth for blue-collar workers in his first five months. He also achieved 1.3% in his first term … The recovery from a 1.7% decline recorded in Biden’s first five months, as inflation outpaced earnings, suggests a shift in economic conditions for this financially stressed segment of the workforce.”


chart of wage growth and/or decline since 1969 in link
[url]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/icymi-blue-collar-wage-growth-sees-largest-increase-in-nearly-60-years-under-trump/[/url]

Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018757]Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.[/QUOTE]

Uh, what?

Assuming you're right and that's what's causing the uptick, how do you conclude that no one is making more money? Those low wage jobs that were going to illegals would now go to US citizens and at higher wages.

:roll::roll::roll:

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018757]Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.[/QUOTE]

Now you are against wages going up?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018764]Uh, what?

Assuming you're right and that's what's causing the uptick, [B]how do you conclude that no one is making more money?[/B] Those low wage jobs that were going to illegals would now go to US citizens and at higher wages.[/QUOTE]

It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018788]It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.[/QUOTE]

i'd say inflation is the biggest cause. wages weren't growing immediately after covid bc wages always lag behind. and truthfully, are we supposed to trust anything trump's admin publishes? especially when their only source is the new york post? lol. i can publish a statement saying "i offer the best xyz service in the country as seen on the new york post", all bc i paid to have an ad run on their site.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018788]It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.[/QUOTE]

It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018788]It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Baller234;15018801]It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

yes, and therefore their end product/service also increases in price. hence, inflation. congrats, you just played yourself.

i specifically remember the republican party being against $17/hr min wage 10 years ago bc it would increase the price of mcdonald's burgers, and cause inflation as a result.

Highlyghey, a coked up daycare worker, doesn't know shit about blue collar jobs.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15018811]Highlyghey, a coked up daycare worker, doesn't know shit about blue collar jobs.[/QUOTE]
fuming

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[QUOTE=highwhey;15018808]yes, and therefore their end product/service also increases in price. hence, inflation. congrats, you just played yourself.

i specifically remember the republican party being against $17/hr min wage 10 years ago bc it would increase the price of mcdonald's burgers, and cause inflation as a result.[/QUOTE]

I could totally understand why you would think that, because you're an autistic retard who doesn't understand basic things and so you can't help but misinterpret the other side's argument.

The right believes that employees are entitled to fair market wages. Nothing more, nothing less. If the government is artificially setting the price of labor, that undermines the free market. If an employer is paying below market wages to illegals because those applicants have no other options, that also undermines the free market.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018816]I could totally understand why you would think that, because you're an autistic retard who doesn't understand basic things and so you can't help but misinterpret the other side's argument.

[B]The right believes that employees are entitled to fair market wages. Nothing more, nothing less. [/B]If the government is artificially setting the price of labor, that undermines the free market. If an employer is paying below market wages to illegals because those applicants have no other options, that also undermines the free market.[/QUOTE]

is that why they're fuming and complaining to trump that their farming illegal employees are being deported? is that why trump is considering [URL="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-urges-temporary-pass-from-immigration-crackdown-key-industries-i-cherish-our-farmers"]a temporary stay[/URL] for farming and hotel workers? Doesn't this undermine immigration enforcement's efforts in ridding the country of illegals? or affect market wages by not only allowing but blessing illegal immigrants in the agricultural and hospitality industry to work for below min wages?

you also know zero about profit and loss or the cause and effect of wages to an end product/service. you've never sat down with a cpa and gone over your numbers down to the cent.

[URL="https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421"]https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15018829][URL="https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421"]https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421[/URL][/QUOTE]

nice. i still don't see that in AZ, where the majority of blue collar workers are Hispanic. it goes without saying that the majority of employers for blue collar jobs are MAGA, actually like 99% of them are MAGAs. interesting that this goes unsaid on fox news or social media. a very interesting fact indeed if i say so myself.

also interesting that the president owns hotels and is now pleading the feds to allow illegal hotel workers to stay. very interesting and totally not illegal or suspicious.

why ???

Mega's that have millions are moving out of cities and into the wilderness...

building their same homes on rivers , lakes , and woods.

Builders are making tons of money.

DAH

And we're supposed to believe a press release from THIS White House?

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15018854]And we're supposed to believe a press release from THIS White House?[/QUOTE]

none of their claims are ever revisited by them bc they're all false and exaggerated.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018801]It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

That labor is mostly being replaced by automation and the others having to pick up the slack. It's not being replaced by white people, that's for sure.

Still a work shortage in the restaurant industry because whites refuse to do it.

Illegals were a god send for whites tbh

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018859]That labor is mostly being replaced by automation and the others having to pick up the slack. It's not being replaced by white people, that's for sure.

Still a work shortage in the restaurant industry because whites refuse to do it.

Illegals were a god send for whites tbh[/QUOTE]

This was an extremely telling response from you.

I made no mention of color. I said that the jobs being done by illegals would go to american citizens. But when you hear "american citizen", you immediately think of white people by default. You could have just as easily said that illegals do the jobs that americans won't, but you specifically chose to isolate white people. Very odd but revealing choice.

Can I ask why you have zero consideration for non-white americans who also might want to consider applying for a job?

So you have conceded my point and have now moved the goal post to I'm racist.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018863]So you have conceded my point and have now moved the goal post to I'm racist.[/QUOTE]

Why did you choose to isolate white people in your response?

Why go out of your way to say "white people are lazy" during a discussion about american jobs?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018864]Why did you choose to isolate white people in your response?

Why go out of your way to say "white people are lazy" during a discussion about american jobs?[/QUOTE]

I did that for you. Because it's what you care about

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018879]I did that for you. Because it's what you care about[/QUOTE]

Oh yea? Interesting.

So if illegals are deported and all these job openings become available, and all the white people are too lazy, wouldn't that be a great thing for all the hardworking non-whites? Wouldn't that mean higher wages and less competition in the job market?

How come you don't want non-whites earning higher wages?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018801]It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15018919]I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Absolutely some of them did, that relied heavy on cheap workforce. You don't think any businesses were effected by ICE raids? :facepalm

[url]https://www.ft.com/content/4c6e379b-d4e6-4514-a37b-d820be59f51d[/url]

[QUOTE] US farmers depend on temporary foreign workers to harvest fruitUS business leaders are warning that Donald Trump’s plan to deport millions of undocumented workers could create mass labour shortages, closing restaurants, crippling farms and small businesses, and raising prices.[/QUOTE]


But mostly the ones who have had to quciky pivot and adjust are doing so by making the others work harder and finding ways to automate.

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Bill Gates going full mask off. He can't even hide it anymore.

I wonder what his imaginary wife and children must think.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15018919]I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

He's not looking to have a good faith discussion or arrive at the truth. He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most, even when he is on the wrong side of a common sense issue.

If Donald Trump and his supporters said that water was wet, he would be obligated to disagree out of pure resentment and hatred.

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this is extremely hilarious bc it's unequivocally the perfect image that represents patrickchewing since he weighs [B][SIZE=7]400 POUNDS[/SIZE][/B] and goes around blaming illegals for his life's mishaps.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018961]He's not looking to have a good faith discussion or arrive at the truth. He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most, even when he is on the wrong side of a common sense issue.

If Donald Trump and his supporters said that water was wet, he would be obligated to disagree out of pure resentment and hatred.[/QUOTE]

Everything I am saying is bona fide concrete real.

And that's why it bothers you so very much.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018944]Absolutely some of them did, that relied heavy on cheap workforce. You don't think any businesses were effected by ICE raids? :facepalm

[url]https://www.ft.com/content/4c6e379b-d4e6-4514-a37b-d820be59f51d[/url]




But mostly the ones who have had to quciky pivot and adjust are doing so by making the others work harder and finding ways to automate.[/QUOTE]

You posted a link that shows that [B][SIZE=5]NO[/SIZE][/B] business has closed due to Trump's deportations. Did you even read the wack ass pay a $1 to read link you posted before prematurely blowing your load in what is now a failed attempt at trying to prove us wrong??

[QUOTE=Baller234;15018961]He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most[/QUOTE]


Liberals are notorious hypocrites.

It's all virtue signaling... and none of these white liberals gave a flying f*ck about the issue before 2016.


How many illegals did Obama deport? There wasn't one white libtard that gave a f*ck about Obama deporting illegals. Not one.

Trump says "you have to go back" in 2016, wins the election, and suddenly the white libtard community is pretending that they give a $hit about the lawnmower man.



I think the political incorrectness of Trump is what was attractive to half the country, and appaling to the other half.

They'd rather have a braindead senile stiff in the white house who comes across as "presidential" and is politically correct, as opposed to Trump who straight up doesn't give a f*ck.

It's 100% TDS, nothing more, nothing less.



Do you really think Bill Gates cares about Diego, Alejandro, and Antonio getting deported?.... no, he doesn't. It's only because team MAGA supports it.

Liberals used to sing a different tune before MAGA entered the picture:

[video=youtube;1AVvdCyeQfI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AVvdCyeQfI[/video]

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15018980]Everything I am saying is bona fide concrete real.

And that's why it bothers you so very much.[/QUOTE]

Literally nothing you say is ever real. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15019005]Do you really think Bill Gates cares about Diego, Alejandro, and Antonio getting deported?.... no, he doesn't. It's only because team MAGA supports it. [/QUOTE]

For years they pretended like illegal immigration wasn't even a problem. From 2015 up until about 2023, if you even mentioned illegal immigration you were dubbed an evil racist spouting fake conspiracy theories.

Sometime in the middle of Biden's administration it started backfiring and you saw democrats slowly abandoning ship. By the time we were approaching the election Kamala was campaigning on finishing Trump's wall. :oldlol:

Hypocrites like Bill Gates said nothing at all. They pretend they're moderates on the subject now. They'll hit you with "Look I'm okay with getting rid of the criminals everyone agrees with that but not the hardworking ones..."

Meanwhile they said fukk all when the criminals were actually pouring in and called YOU an evil racist for daring to point it out.

[video=youtube;-xYF9y0VlEg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xYF9y0VlEg[/video]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15019007]For years they pretended like illegal immigration wasn't even a problem. From 2015 up until about 2023, if you even mentioned illegal immigration you were dubbed an evil racist spouting fake conspiracy theories.

Sometime in the middle of Biden's administration it started backfiring and you saw democrats slowly abandoning ship. By the time we were approaching the election Kamala was campaigning on finishing Trump's wall. :oldlol:

Hypocrites like Bill Gates said nothing at all. They pretend they're moderates on the subject now. They'll hit you with "Look I'm okay with getting rid of the criminals everyone agrees with that but not the hardworking ones..."

Meanwhile they said fukk all when the criminals were actually pouring in and called YOU an evil racist for daring to point it out.[/QUOTE]



It's all virtue signaling & MAGA hate.

Kamala could've won and done things on a more extreme level than Trump, and white liberals would've somehow still applauded her... or just stayed silent.



Liberals showed their true colors when they were satisfied with having a 4 year Weekend at Bernie's

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[video=youtube;79x0yfGlLvQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79x0yfGlLvQ[/video]



I'm a Minority in Texas..... but what's funny is that Texas is still a Red State.

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Popular vote Trump - 6,393,597.....Kamala - 4,835,250

Percentage Trump - 56.14% .......Kamala - 42.46%


[quote]Trump’s 13.7% margin was significantly greater than his single-digit margins in 2016 and 2020.[/quote]

[quote]The former president captured [b]55% of Latino voters[/b] in the state, according to exit polls. He also won 14 out of the 18 counties within 20 miles of the border, a number that doubled his 2020 performance in the Latino-majority region.[/quote]



[quote][b]Texas Democrats have long viewed the state’s growing Latino population as their ticket to eventually breaking through the Republican Party’s dominance.[/b] Tuesday night, however, showed that the GOP has made significant gains in peeling away those voters, and nowhere was that more apparent than along the border.

After years of losing the statewide Latino vote by double digits, Republicans set a high-water mark with Donald Trump capturing 55% of the critical voting bloc, besting Vice President Kamala Harris’ 44% share, according to exit polls.

In the traditionally Democratic strongholds along the border, Trump managed a near sweep.

He won 14 out of the 18 counties within 20 miles of the border, a number that doubled his attention-grabbing 2020 performance in the Latino-majority region. He carried all four counties in the Rio Grande Valley just eight years after drawing a mere 29% in the region — a feat that included delivering 97% Latino Starr County to Republicans for the first time since 1896. And, though he lost El Paso, one of the border’s most populous counties, he narrowed margins there in ways not seen in decades.[/quote]

[url]https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/06/donald-trump-near-sweep-texas-border-counties/[/url]


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Those Racist Hispanics!!!!!

I know I would completely trust (without any questions) a press statement from a convicted felon.