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First of all what do you think Beasley's best position in the NBA would be? Who does his game remind you of the most and what numbers do you expect from him his rookie year? I think he will be at Small Forward In The NBA, He reminds me of Carmelo Anthony and a bit of Zach Randolph. As far as numbers I expect 18-20 ppg and 5-6 rpg. He will probably be the number 1 pick.
*waits for people to finish reading NBAdraft.net to post his comparison to Carmelo Anthony.*
Beasley probably could be SF or PF he shoots 3s very good.
Actually, he reminds me a lot of Al Thornton. He DOES play a lot like Melo except less athletic.
[QUOTE=Make It Rain]Actually, he reminds me a lot of Al Thornton. He DOES play a lot like Melo except less athletic.[/QUOTE]
I actually think he might be more athletic.
I can see him come in and make an impact right away as a more athletic version of rookie Toni Kukoc. The kid can do it all and should be able to contribute in different areas across the board the way Kukoc did coming in as a rookie. If given the freedom Durant currently has, he should be able to average 16+ points while being schooled on defense. He doesn't have the shot Durant has to score consistently, but his body should allow him to keep up with the NBA players.
[QUOTE=Make It Rain]Actually, he reminds me a lot of Al Thornton. He DOES play a lot like Melo except less athletic.[/QUOTE]
I see we learned nothing from the dunk contest video. You get an F for the day.
How does he play like Carmelo Anthony? Beasley doesnt have the range beyond the arc, midrange game, ball handling skills Carmelo does. He scores closer to the basket more than Carmelo...and the reason I'm not totally sold on him and want to see more is due to his competition faced. He really doesnt display much interior scoring if you watch him put up pts.
Beasley is a better rebounder than Carmelo Anthony.
But yeah he plays exactly like Carmelo...you kids stay off nbadraft.net please
he'll probably play SF here. beasly is a beast. nuff said.
im comparing him with glen robinson.
A more athletic Ryan Gomes but smaller frame.
He's a power three, and Melo is the closest thing to that in the league at the moment, having a lot to do with the league going smaller and quicker. Melo is the best post up SF in the league. But he doesn't have the perimeter midrange shooting game Melo does, and he's not as refined with the ball. So he gets a lot of stronger Melo comps, or smoother Kenyon Martin comps.
While he's obviously not at this level, there's a lot of young Barkley in his game. Before Charles expanded his jumper. I have a feeling with the state of the league as it is, with a lot of guys playing up a position, he could have a big impact if he goes somewhere that'll put him at the three. He'll be a post presence every night, and be drawing doubles against most threes in the league from the block from day one. A lot of that depends on if he can pick up defensively at that spot, which he can certainly do physically, and weather he shows he has the head to read double teams. But strictly from a physical point of view, he's ready to play that spot now.
The guy Mike Beasley [B]currently[/B] reminds me of most is Chris Bosh.
Both are guys who beats smaller defenders in the post with little more than turning and shooting. When up against defenders their size or bigger both draft to the perimeter and look to pump and go.
Both lack the mid-range/slashing game to defeat the second defender that comes running at them; and can be contain in the post if that smaller defender has good arm length and/or strength.
[B]Note: I reserve the right to change my comparison when he faces some actual tough competition.[/B]
I haven't even seen him play before, but just from reading through this thread, the first name that jumps out at me for a comparison is Ron Artest. Speaking only on offense of course. Anyone agree?
Never heard of him....The draft coming up is a weak one. Only guy I heard that had a some sort of slight potential coming out of this upcoming draft was OJ Mayo, and that I'm not even so sure of. He dosen't look like a franchise guy that can lead a team; a lot like Melo.
Beasley is 6ft9 230lb.
He's a college PF but he'll be a SF in the NBA,Hes not a SF who will be on the wing all game and he'll mostly be around the basket.
I havent really seen him to have the blow by move Melo has when hes backing down to get to the basket,Beasley usually just turns to draw foul or he hits the shot off the glass.
He has to work on his ballhandling,and his mid range and 3 point shot to become an All Star.But from the way I've seen him play in college,he should average 16/8 for his career if he doesnt develop other shots.
Im going to say this again,Beasley will clash with almost every coach he will have in the NBA,he believes he is a star but when the ball isnt in his hands he gets frustrated.
He is possibly the worst of the ball player in college basketball.He doesnt move he just commands the ball and goes up un-aggresively for the offensive rebound.
whoever takes him up top of the draft is going to be severely disappointed, dudes stats are overblown and he's getting overrated by the media.
He reminds me of Rodney Rogers but 100x better.
He reminds me of a Prime Derrick Coleman with a little mix of Glenn Robinson.
[QUOTE=RidonKs]I haven't even seen him play before, but just from reading through this thread, the first name that jumps out at me for a comparison is Ron Artest. Speaking only on offense of course. Anyone agree?[/QUOTE]
How the f.uck are people gonna make comparisons when they haven't seen someone play...he's nothing like ron artest...i read a comparison online somewhere comparing hi to derrick coleman and i like that comparison...
[QUOTE=Uchiha_Hai]Never heard of him....The draft coming up is a weak one. Only guy I heard that had a some sort of slight potential coming out of this upcoming draft was OJ Mayo, and that I'm not even so sure of. He dosen't look like a franchise guy that can lead a team; a lot like Melo.[/QUOTE]
wow...somebody doesn't watch basketball...this is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory assuming the top freshmen come out - rose, beasley, mayo, gordon, bayless, donte greene, deandre jordan, budinger, augustin, collison, the list goes on and on...pay attention, damn...
[QUOTE=kumquat]whoever takes him up top of the draft is going to be severely disappointed, dudes stats are overblown and he's getting overrated by the media.[/QUOTE]
The team will be severely disappointed not because he wont average his college numbers in the NBA but because he will clash with every coach he comes in contact with.
But like I said he looks like a solid 16/8 guy in his rookie year in Minnesota,he could maybe get it 20/10 at some point in his career but he has to grow up and make the effort to get better as a basketball player than as a physical specimen.
Most college players work out,get in shape,and work on their game,whether developing a mid range shot like Glen Davis did last season,or learning better footwork in the post under their position coach.
Mike Beasley hits the weights,and hits the weights,hits the weights,and then gets tatted.
Has anybody else noticed it from how his game hasnt developed other than what he does now since his SO yr in HS,but over time hes gotten more and more muscular and had 1 or 2 new tats each season.
Anyone else seeing similarity to Shawn Marion? He's got more skill than that, but with the athleticism that enables him to play like a big even though he's not really a big I see some similarity...or maybe Antwan Jamison. Tough to compare him.
A smarter Lebron James.
Marion, Coleman, and Artest all have too many ball skills in my opinion. This guy can face up from about 15 feet, and blow by because of his quickness, but he's not ready to handle in open space yet, short of just barrelling down court. Rodney Rogers had too much three point game. That's about all he had for those last few years.
But everyone's got a point, they've all got some elements that Beasley seems to have.
I'm not sure I buy the 6-9 by the way. Anyone ever see him in person?
I've never seen Marion as a skilled ballhandler. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]Marion, Coleman, and Artest all have too many ball skills in my opinion. This guy can face up from about 15 feet, and blow by because of his quickness, but he's not ready to handle in open space yet, short of just barrelling down court. Rodney Rogers had too much three point game. That's about all he had for those last few years.
But everyone's got a point, they've all got some elements that Beasley seems to have.
I'm not sure I buy the 6-9 by the way. Anyone ever see him in person?[/QUOTE]
Mostly youtube and a few of highlight clips.
I actually wanna say a lengthier Jamal Mashburn. But Mashburn wasn't as solid of a rebounder (although Mash did average over 7 in his Hornet days). But I'll go with Mashburn as my best comparison.
[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]I'm not sure I buy the 6-9 by the way. Anyone ever see him in person?[/QUOTE]
II didn't think Durant would be 6'9" either but he was a legit 6'9" at the pre-draft camp. As far as Beasley I've heard he's more lik6 6'7"-6'8". I like the Jamal Mashburn comparison a lot.
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]II didn't think Durant would be 6'9" either but he was a legit 6'9" at the pre-draft camp. As far as Beasley I've heard he's more lik6 6'7"-6'8". I like the Jamal Mashburn comparison a lot.[/QUOTE]
Beasley is a true 6ft8,I saw him on the court of one of his games at Oak Hill when he was a JR.
Im 6ft4 and he looked to be about 3-5 inches taller than me if we were side by side.
Im actually shocked they list him at 230 lbs,I really think hes in the 240-245 lbs range
[QUOTE=Interminator]Beasley is a true 6ft8,I saw him on the court of one of his games at Oak Hill when he was a JR.
Im 6ft4 and he looked to be about 3-5 inches taller than me if we were side by side.
Im actually shocked they list him at 230 lbs,I really think hes in the 240-245 lbs range[/QUOTE]
Weight is often downplayed. Carmelo was already over the 230 he is now listed even at the 2003 pre-draft camp. Pretty cool you saw him in person though.
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]II didn't think Durant would be 6'9" either but he was a legit 6'9" at the pre-draft camp. [B]As far as Beasley I've heard he's more lik6 6'7"-6'8". I like the Jamal Mashburn comparison a lot.[/B][/QUOTE]
- Both 6'8
- Both extend to the 3 point range and have respectable %'s
- Both have a quick first step.
- Both like to pull up mid range.
- Both have interior scoring capabilty but prefer to face up
- Mash did seemingly play big in college and adjusted once he hit the NBA.
Again Jamal's ability to rebound may not be on par, but that is yet to be seen once Beasley hit the NBA.
Sidenote, Mashburn ended his career with the Sixers, Beasley will start his career with the same.:)
Next KG?
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Next KG?[/QUOTE]
Almost no similarity whatsoever.
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]First of all what do you think Beasley's best position in the NBA would be? Who does his game remind you of the most and what numbers do you expect from him his rookie year? [B]I think he will be at Small Forward In The NBA, He reminds me of Carmelo Anthony and a bit of Zach Randolph. [/B]As far as numbers I expect 18-20 ppg and 5-6 rpg. He will probably be the number 1 pick.[/QUOTE]
Wow you're an expert. and you came up with that how? have you even watched him play?
[QUOTE=thenextgreatbigman]Wow you're an expert. and you came up with that how? have you even watched him play?[/QUOTE]
Yeah as a matter of a fact I watch him play everytime he is on tv.
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]Yeah as a matter of a fact I watch him play everytime he is on tv.[/QUOTE]
so you're telling me you see this [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXQ5bA0eH0Y[/url] when you watch him play?
[QUOTE=thenextgreatbigman]so you're telling me you see this [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXQ5bA0eH0Y[/url] when you watch him play?[/QUOTE]
What song is that? Killer beat.
Mashburn is a good call, but he's got too much Point Forward to me too. I must admit, that in spite of his 3%, I really don't see him as a shooter. Maybe it's because he only takes about three a game, which at the college level isn't a ton. Or because he shoots under 70% from the FT line. I know that I don't trust his handle in a control the ball situation, which is different than his ability to break people down. He may be closer to Marion thinking it over. So whoever said that, good call (RMWG?).
I just read the name Laphonso Ellis, which I could see as a low end comp. Mid range catch and shoot is ok, going by guys is the first preference, and physically it's in his nature to crash the boards.
[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]Mashburn is a good call, but he's got too much Point Forward to me too. I must admit, that in spite of his 3%, I really don't see him as a shooter. Maybe it's because he only takes about three a game, which at the college level isn't a ton. Or because he shoots under 70% from the FT line. I know that I don't trust his handle in a control the ball situation, which is different than his ability to break people down. He may be closer to Marion thinking it over. So whoever said that, good call (RMWG?).
I just read the name Laphonso Ellis, which I could see as a low end comp. Mid range catch and shoot is ok, going by guys is the first preference, and physically it's in his nature to crash the boards.[/QUOTE]
With the comparison to Marion is that Marion isn't great at creating off the dribble. Something that Beasley is highy touted for. Also Marion's ability to gaurd both the perimeter and interior. Beasley needs to put more commitment into defense. Granted, he's blocking shots now against lower level comp, like everybody says, we'll see what he does with larger more stronger opponents. isee the athleticism and the lengthiness but it stops there for me.
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Next KG?[/QUOTE]
Nexts Timberwolves franchise player. I hope he take this team into the NBA Finals so he would probably surpass Kevin Garnett as the best player to ever wear the Wolves Jersey.
F*ck Kevin Garnett
[B]Beasley is the real deal [/B]
[B]Records are set in 85-25 rout[/B]
January 8, 2008
[quote]MANHATTAN, Kan. -- [B]Kansas State set two NCAA records and tied another Monday night by holding Savannah State to one field goal and four points in the second half of an 85-25 rout.[/B]
[B]"I've never seen that. That was crazy," Kansas State forward Michael Beasley said. "That just was not good."[/B]
Kansas State (10-4) hounded the Tigers on the perimeter and pushed them away from the basket from the opening tip, holding them without a field goal during a seven-minute span of the first half to build a 16-point lead.
But that was nothing.
Savannah State (8-13) missed its first 15 shots of the second half, falling behind, 72-22, and finished the second half one for 23 (4.3%) from the field, breaking the NCAA record for worst shooting percentage and fewest points in a half since the shot clock was first introduced in 1986.
The one field goal by Savannah State also tied the mark for fewest in a half.[/quote]
[url]http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-bkcsep8jan08,1,7948613.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports[/url]
[B]Michael Beasley - [/B]25 pts, 10 rebs, 2 blks, 1 steals ( 28 min)