...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in 20 years. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.
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...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in 20 years. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.
So trying to obscure the shooters vision is wack? That makes a lot of sense.
Should they just not even put a hand up or what?
I see nothing wrong with it. Its good defense to try and mess up the shot.
New tactic? Lol, have you ever played basketball before?
[QUOTE=hito da god]New tactic? Lol, have you ever played basketball before?[/QUOTE]
:no:, no they haven't. People like Battier aren't even defending the ball. He's going right for Kobe face when he jumps.
That's wack.
Not everybody is gifted with the natural athletic ability of the Kobe's of the world, so giving the lesser players a chance to disrupt a shot and not give a clean look at the rim is always a good idea on defense. Also, this is not a new tactic...
[QUOTE=Created Player]:no:, no they haven't. People like Battier aren't even defending the ball. He's going right for Kobe face when he jumps.
That's wack.[/QUOTE]
What, exactly is he to do? When Kobe elevates for a jumpshot, Battie, along with every other defender, doesn't have the jump speed and length to get up and block a jumpshot. Contesting the shot is more effective with blocking the view of the player rather than risking hitting the wrist of a shot they can't block.
I've always been taught to do that when you aren't going to be able to get close to the ball. I coached for a year and had an especially short team. I taught every one of my players that tactic. Why let them have a good look at the rim? :confusedshrug:
Why is everyone acting like I don'y know what I'm talking about.
Do you people even WATCH the game?
Somebody get in this thread and co-sign what I'm talking about.
as long as it works... adelman made brad miller do the same to kevin garnett in the playoffs before xD
I do it.
it seems like smart basketball to me. i don't see what's wrong w/ it. would u rather give them a clear view of the basket while they shoot? would u rather risk fouling them by going for a block? i also don't think it's "new".
[QUOTE=Created Player]Why is everyone acting like I don'y know what I'm talking about.
Do you people even WATCH the game?
Somebody get in this thread and co-sign what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
We know exactly what you are talking about. You are talking about when the defender puts their hand up to block the face of the shooter.
who doesn't do it?!? what the **** is this thread?
[QUOTE=Created Player]...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in 20 years. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
he has been doing this the WHOLE season
STFU ****** *****
Its definitely not new and it only seems to bug you Created Player. Are you one of those fans that just want every advantage for the offensive player because you don't find defense fun to watch?
Everybody knows what you are talking about but nobody agrees that its a new or wack strategy...it's been around forever and just smart basketball. The shooter should be able to look past it...if they can't they should drive to the rim...this is why Battier is such a good defender...he uses all the tools/tricks that can be used
I'm a Kobe fan...but I'm surprised more people don't do it...it seems to be working
[QUOTE=Created Player]...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in 20 years. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.[/QUOTE]
Please, what do you expect Battier to do? He's known as a defender, and you don't get that reputation unless you play smart defence, and one of the smarter ways to play defense is instead of trying to block a jumpshot (which is pretty damn difficult anyway), get in the player's vision. I see no reason why it would be 'puss', would you want Battier to deck Kobe on every jumpshot, or just let him shoot a wide-open one?
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I thought this thread was intended to be sarcastic but I was wrong.
[QUOTE=Showtime]So? That's FIBA, not NBA. FIBA has a different lane, has used zone when the NBA didn't, Techs count as PF's, and allowed goaltending.[/QUOTE]
Well there are similarities, like you know the idea to put the ball in the basket while giving 1, 2 or 3 pts. The Fouling. The not using your feet and stuff. I figured there could be others. Then again, in Europe we call traveling so I guess you
[QUOTE=Created Player]...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in [U]20 years[/U]. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.[/QUOTE]
a technique that you've seen in 20 years? is a new tactic? I'm confused :banghead:
[QUOTE=biisak]Well there are similarities, like you know the idea to put the ball in the basket while giving 1, 2 or 3 pts. The Fouling. The not using your feet and stuff. I figured there could be others. Then again, in Europe we call traveling so I guess you
[QUOTE=Showtime]My point was that just because there are differences in the rules doesn't mean one way of playing is the way the game is 'supposed' to be played, which was the comment to which I was responding.[/QUOTE]
My point, which you missed, was that because there are a lot of similarities, perhaps the reason you dont see it so much is because it isnt allowed. Which I actually dont think it is. Then again, neither is traveling, lane violation and a lot of other rules that NBA refs dont enforce.
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this is perfect defensive tactic.. you blur their vision of the hoop battier is in a way protecting the hoop because hes causing kobe to miss his jumpers which means there wont be a made shot.. as long as its legit and it works whats all the commotion about? and did i forget to mention how hard it is to block a jumper than a layup?
[QUOTE=wTFaMonkey]FIBA not equal to NBA
[B]FAIL[/B][/QUOTE]
Great post.
someone should tell Battier not to put his hands up on d. that's whack...
Bowen does it too. Effective..
[QUOTE=20 Dimes A Game]I do it.[/QUOTE]
me too. i think most people who play basketball with any intelligence whatsoever have done it before.
You have to be a good defender to do it. You need to be close to him and be smart not to actully hit him on the head
have you never heard: "Get that hand up in his face"
That does not mean you try to go after the ball
This is textbook defense on how to defend a jump shot. Nothing new. Defense 101. Created Moron because he is no Player.
gobb lol.
You must have never seen Reggie Miller play against Michael Jordan.
Edit: I use this tactic all the time in pick-up games and it works very well, especially when I'm guarding above the rim type of players that just out-jump me.
Someone isn't looking forward to Battier becoming more than the anti Kobe :) Watch yourself Bron!
Seriously, stop this guy from posting.
Or Doug Christie play against just about anybody.
CP admitted he haven't played basketball right?
:oldlol:
What a loser
Battier for defensive player of the year! Scola for rookie of the year!
Without a question!!!
[QUOTE=Created Player]...as they elevate is wack (like what Battier is pretty much doing to Kobe on every shot).
This is pretty much the work defensive technique I've seen in 20 years. It's right up there with the elimination of the hand check.
So puss, IMO.[/QUOTE]
Doug Christie and John Starks used to do this all the damn time to Jordan. I haven't seen many (if any) players use it recently, though.
Mind you, all the shooter has to do is create space better to neutralize it, but it's [i]very[/i] effective at disrupting a shot. Fairly difficult to do at full speed sometimes, though.