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Good pickup by the warriors.
Heard it on ESPN radio before you made the thread. RUN TMC!!! of course, without TMC. Maybe he can get B Diddy, J. Rich, Dunleavy, and all of them clicking. Scary.
Best thing Mullin's done in awhile.
Nelson's great with teams that have a lot of different talents. This should be really interesting.
WOW
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2565022[/url]
The warriors needed to get rid of Montgomery, so this is nt a shocking decision. Now they only got to trade Baron Davis and everything will be fine.
I'm calling it right now: the Warriors will be the worst defensive team in the NBA next season.
Stellar signing. :applause:
It's about time Oaktown got some basketball to cheer about.
i'm not shocked at all that nelson is back in coaching... but i am suprised it's with the warriors.
warriors need to move baron, dunleavy, murphy and foyle for expirers and picks and focus on the youth they have down there...
ellis, diogu, pietrus are all young studs and need to be given playing time.
i think this almost gives the Warriors the opportunity to be a 45 win team. They have talent, and though Nelson's coaching will never get them deep in the playoffs, it might actually get them there though, which for Golden State is a rare accomplishment.
*crosses fingers he'll give a major role to Pietrus*
You can forget about the Warriors moving Baron Davis, Don Nelson is about to show BDiddy how to tap his talent level. Baron will be a STUD next year, book that.
This is a great hire by Mullin, Nelson will have the Warriors as an elite team within 3 years. I am just very interested to see who joins Baron and JRich as the 3rd of the Big 3. Nelson loves to have three guys that are all star level; TMC, Dirk/Nash/Fin, I wonder if it will be Pietrus, Dunleavy, Diogu, or Biedrins.
Great time for Warrior fans.
This is a great, great thing for the Warriors.
[quote]I'm calling it right now: the Warriors will be the worst defensive team in the NBA next season.[/quote]
That's a thing, they were putrid defensively last year too, but they also sucked on offense and had no chemistry. They've just solved that problem. If they can get all that offensive talent clicking... wow.
They still won't win a title or anything but at least they could make some noise and/or the playoffs.
^yup. If Baron can stay healthy, expect a huge season from him
With Nelson coaching I think they have a good shot at challenging Phoenix for top scoring team in the league.
A lineup of:
PG - Davis
SG - Richardson
SF - Dunleavy Jr.
PF - Murphy
C - Biedrins
with Diogu, Monta Ellis, Pietrus, Cabarkapa and possibly Chris Taft coming off the bench can run and gun with the best of them.
Defensively they'll most likely be worst in the league but they're going to outscore teams more often than not. This squad can make the playoffs now. Nelson is the perfect coach for them.
I love how everyone is ready to hand the playoffs over them AGAIN this year.
They still play in the WC and they're still at the bottom of their division.
[QUOTE=fatboy11][B]I love how everyone is ready to hand the playoffs over them AGAIN this year.[/B]
They still play in the WC and they're still at the bottom of their division.[/QUOTE]
Thats what 3-4yrs in a row now? :roll:
well assuming they don't implode and Nelson can make it work, they have more talent than the Lakers or T-Wolves for example, so they have a shot. I predict 42 wins and a 9th seed
They still have Baron Davis. Don't expect that offense to click too well.
I mean, I think EVERYONE'S chance hinge on not imploding and the coach making things work.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]I love how everyone is ready to hand the playoffs over them AGAIN this year.
They still play in the WC and they're still at the bottom of their division.[/QUOTE]
truth. i don't think the addition of nelson will bring them to the playoffs.
i mean... baron might be very talented, but he's just a west coast version of stephon marbury imo... AND he's injury prone. and PG's who consistently chuck and ruin the development of the youth around them don't do as well as people believe they will.
Warriors are making the playoffs. The got all the talent they need. The only problem was their coaching. Now they're getting a very, very good coach that knows how to work a team.
:roll: Every freaking year.
[QUOTE=GoRapz]Warriors are making the playoffs. The got all the talent they need. The only problem was their coaching. Now they're getting a very, very good coach that knows how to work a team.[/QUOTE]You obviously haven't watched them the past two seasons.
Talented offensively, yes. Defense, on the other hand......ouch. Comparisons to the Suns are laughable considering that the Warriors aren't anywhere near as talented or cohesive as the Suns.
A more proper comparison would be a West Coast verison of the Toronto Raptors.
[QUOTE=kwajo]well assuming they don't implode and Nelson can make it work, they have more talent than the Lakers or T-Wolves for example, so they have a shot. I predict 42 wins and a 9th seed[/QUOTE]
More talent than the Lakers? Don`t go that far. Are you taking account that B-davis is always injured? Kobe`s ppg can fill up 3 of their starters ppg.
[QUOTE=kwajo]well assuming they don't implode and Nelson can make it work, they have more talent than the Lakers or T-Wolves for example, so they have a shot. I predict 42 wins and a 9th seed[/QUOTE]
And the Knicks have more "talent" than all three. What are you predicting for them big guy? 50 wins? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Lakers]And the Knicks have more "talent" than all three. What are you predicting for them big guy? 50 wins? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
:banghead: What do the Knicks have to do with this? Have you missed the last 10 years of Don Nelson's coaching career? He is incredible with utilizing talent on a team. He is the coach that can get any team with decent talent to get clicking on offense and playing together. Idiotic to compare him to Isiah.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]
A more proper comparison would be a West Coast verison of the Toronto Raptors.[/QUOTE]
i agree, but only if we're talking of raptor teams of recent years and not this season. look for the raps team D to be much improved this year (wouldn't take much) and for us to be a very cohesive unit as well.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]More talent than the Lakers? [B]Don`t go that far. Are you taking account that B-davis is always injured? Kobe`s ppg can fill up 3 of their starters ppg[/B].[/QUOTE]
what do baron's injuries have to do with his undeniable talent? and i'm sure if i picked the worst three starters on any team i could come up with a handful of players who outscore all three of them combined.
:wtf:
[quote=Some Jackass] And the Knicks have more "talent" than all three. What are you predicting for them big guy? 50 wins? :rolleyes:[/quote] I was using Western Conference teams - ie. those that the Warriors will have to beat out for a playoff spot. The Knicks were not relevant to the discussion.
And i don't see how the Lakers are more talented than the Warriors, I thought Kobe lovers were convinced their team is crap except Kobe, that's why he was supposedly an MVP candidate last year...
Baron`s injuries hide his talent. We expect him NOT to play almost every game.
[QUOTE=kwajo]I was using Western Conference teams - ie. those that the Warriors will have to beat out for a playoff spot. The Knicks were not relevant to the discussion.
And i don't see how the Lakers are more talented than the Warriors, I thought Kobe lovers were convinced their team is crap except Kobe, that's why he was supposedly an MVP candidate last year...[/QUOTE]
Kobe lovers? I`m not one of those guys who said the Lakers are crap. I said their players are inconsistent. Don`t generalize all of kobe`s fans.
It's about time, they had to dump that coach.
sorry, it's hard to keep track of all the user names that have those four letters in them, it seems like there are dozens and they easily get mixed up
1) They should have never fired Musselman
2) Montgomery deserved some kind of chance
3) Don Nelson is a terriffic coach. If Mike D. ever had the chance to be a good-NBA player its now. Forwards with diverse skills thrive under Nelson. That's what we heard Mike D. is - so he should be thrive - assuming he really has diverse skills.
4) Foyle hitting a 3 under Nelson will be a highlight of the NBA season.
Wow you people overrate Don Nelson. Not since the Bucks has any one of his teams actually overachieved.
What Mullin should have done is quit and hire Nelson as the GM.
I remember when Don Nelson took over as head coach for the Knicks.
It was a mountain of contraversy. Nelson followed Riley. Riley's system was traditional, effective, and very simple - pg handles, sg shoots, sf is versatile, pf rebounds, center stays on the block and everybody defends their opposing number, directs the opponent to the middle where help is waiting.
Nelson came in and immeidately turned things around. Everyone handles, everyone shoots, everyone is on the blocks, cross-match on defense.
Ewing critics will say it failed because Nelson wanted to make the versatile Mason the "centerpiece" of the team but Ewing still wanted his shots. so following a bad streak caused by these growing pains, Ewing turned the whole team against Nelson and brought in the more traditional Van Gundy.
Nelson critics will say that it failed because Nelson had Ewing shooting 3's, while Starks was trying to manuever inside. It failed because Ewing was not under the basket on defense, so teams were just doing layup drills against the Knicks.
It really goes to intent. Did it fail because Ewing and crew refused to change? Or did it fail because Nelson did not coach his personnel, and they were just not capable of change?
Personally, I don't like any plan that takes my best shot blocker and inside scorer out from the paint - so I side with Ewing and co. Meanwhile, did it really fail? They went 35 and 22 over 57 games before he was fired. Thats on pace for a 50 win season. Knicks would give their right nut for that.
baron's back already is broken.
i've been kicking sand in the warrirors' faces for years. but i think they will finally be good again. nelson's specialty is that he isn't a one-philosophy coach. he's not stubborn like most old school guys who enforce every guy to play the same way. nelson actually allows a lot of flexibility so he really knows how to utilize talent. instead of converting players into something they're not, he does the opposite and tries to maximize their talents in what they're good at. this won't win championships, but it's certainly good enough to be competitive and make the playoffs. with nelson on board, guys like baron davis will have a career again.
[QUOTE=DCL]nelson's specialty is that he isn't a one-philosophy coach. he's not stubborn like most old school guys who enforce every guy to play the same way. nelson actually allows a lot of flexibility so he really knows how to utilize talent. instead of converting players into something they're not, he does the opposite and tries to maximize their talents in what they're good at.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Nelson is as rigid a coach as there is in the league. He isn't a task-master and his approach is more laid back, but he coaches one system. He likes a motion offense, where everyone gets touches all over the floor. He expects versatility in all his players. He is inflexible on that.
He does not maximize player's talents, though he tires ot maximize the number of skills each player has.
He will be good for the Warriors, but not for the reasons you cite.
nelson plays the system that works best with the pieces that he has. motion offense just happens to be something that works with his players. if he has small guys, he'll play small ball and run tmc. if he has a manute, he'll position him into the game and might even let him shoot 3's. nelson will experiment and try things and is open to creativity. he's one of the least inflexible coaches in the league if you compare him to the hot heads like larry brown. he's far from rigid.
[QUOTE=DCL]nelson plays the system that works best with the pieces that he has. if he has small guys, he'll play small ball and rum tmc. if he has a manute, he'll position him into the game. he's one of the lease inflexible coaches in the league if you compare him to the hot heads like larry brown.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I'm not sure which Don Nelson team you've watched, but its not accidental that all Nelson teams play the same way. Him and Brown are about the same. They have a way they like their temas to play and coach it. In fact, Brown is slightly more flexible - the 76ers, didn't play much like Pistons, who didn't really play like the Pacers.