Where are the Hornets gonna move to? Seattle or Vegas?

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]So if in 2005 instead of Katrina a major earthquake had hit in LA and now 3 years later another one hit you're saying you would view yourself as not deserving empathy because you should have known better after the first quake?

If you agree with that than yes you're an ignorant jack ass.



Whats with the regional prejudice? People in the south deserve aid just as much as anyone else. More evidence of you being an ignorant jack ass.[/QUOTE]

your logic is flawed in both cases.

if there was reason to believe that an earthquake was likely to hit southern california very often relative to my convenience then yes, i would leave. with global warming, ocean water temperatures rise, and hurricanes are both more frequent and more powerful. the earthquake analogy doesn't work...but to answer your question, yes i would move if it got that bad.

and it isn't regional prejudice. they receive more aid than they produce gdp, and there is no other place in the nation like that. it isn't prejudice, it is common sense.

so i guess i'm not a jackass, just logical. and i'm not the one resorting to name calling...

[QUOTE=WhySoInsecure?]You miss the point. Katrina doesn't come around often and people can't predict a national disaster. The gulf coast gets it hard because they get flooded but if they don't it's not something that they can't recover from.

New Orleans is not what it was 4 years ago and a big portion of the people didn't come back. The city was still rebuilding and "America" was behind that because as most know this country is known for doing whatever it takes to fight back against the odds and help people get back on their feet.

Some of you haven't seen poverty and probably never had to pay the bills. A big portion of the people that came back did because they're homes were all they had. They don't have any savings and that land is all they have thats worth something. A lot of them have family history there too as easy as it may seem, it's not that easy to move on.

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It's not as easy as buying a plane ticket, and some can't even afford that. Nobody is going to buy that land from them and they can't survive elsewhere because they don't have any saving, especially after katrina.

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my point is it looks like you can predict a hurricane, and it looks as though, with the changing climate, the gulf coast isn't going to see any kind of let up in hurricane frequency or strength. you missed the point.

I think I lost a couple of brain cells after reading Showtime's posts...

Seriously, those posts may have been the most arrogant posts I've ever seen on Insidehoops. Unbelievable.

you can call me unsympathetic and that's your thing...

but i see the problems with hurricanes and the gulf coast as a symptom of poverty, and i look at poverty and it's possible solutions in two ways simultaneously.

one, people in populations need social programs to in a macro sense help society

two, there needs to be a sense of personal responsibility that i don't see when people are so often being evacuated and then moving back. if something were threatening me, i would do something about it to the best of my ability.

maybe i'm judging the residents unfairly, but to remain in poverty i think requires some amount of settling in a lot of the cases.

[QUOTE=Jimmy2k8]I think I lost a couple of brain cells after reading Showtime's posts...

Seriously, those posts may have been the most arrogant posts I've ever seen on Insidehoops. Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
Please explain how I have been arrogant. I would really like to know, honestly, so I can see the thought process of how one comes to that conclusion.

Don't mess with nature, or it'll mess with you. The citizens who refused to learn from Katrina will soon see this simple fact. They'll just keep fixing up the city. It's like rebuilding a sandcastle over and over again hoping the tide won't come in.

i am a new orleanian, i have not been in new orleans since 05. after being hurt in iraq i had to undergo treatment and numerous surgeries at johns hopkins and walter reed amc. i was on my feet in 06 and chose to move my family to jacksonville fl. which is a beautiful city. now heres the catch, i did'nt leave due to continuing threats of hurricanes, but the continuing decline in the new orleans school system. i have 3 young kids and i refuse to let them be subjected to a below average education. the city of new orleans is so full of culture and tradition. it is almost idiotic to think that people can just leave thier history and stay gone. people do know the possible risk of rebuilding in an area that has a chance to be continuously devistated. but why do they, why do people take those chances, like those who rebuild in tornado prone, or earthquke areas. it becomes an issue of a love for home. why do the majority of nba players stay in the usa instead of playing in places where the people treat them like gods, pay them more and untaxed money, and in some cases, provide home and car. because they love the since of home, people need the since of home in new orleans. when i was in dc, even now in florida, its been hard to adjust. the food is different, the music is different, the people are different. everyone has different opinions, im just speaking for the people who choose not to leave. everyday i wish i was in new orleans and if not for the poor education system, no natural disaster could keep me from coming back, over and over again. this is'nt a crap city in the middle of nowhere, its a city worth coming back to. i told my wife that once the kids are in college im going back to retire. im not going to bash the opinion of showtime or no other person because thats all it is to me, an opinion.



FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS UP TO THE MINUTE UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION, VIEW THIS MULTIMEDIA LINK OF FOX 8 NEWS.
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The thing is, there's nothing brave about standing up to nature. Being defiant against hurricanes is not like being defiant against terrorists. It's just stupid. Realize that some places just aren't safe to live in and [I]move on[/I]. "Culture" is meaningless if you're not alive to experience it. You can build a home somewhere besides a swamp.

[QUOTE=AMERVET]i am a new orleanian, i have not been in new orleans since 05. after being hurt in iraq i had to undergo treatment and numerous surgeries at johns hopkins and walter reed amc. i was on my feet in 06 and chose to move my family to jacksonville fl. which is a beautiful city. now heres the catch, i did'nt leave due to continuing threats of hurricanes, but the continuing decline in the new orleans school system. i have 3 young kids and i refuse to let them be subjected to a below average education. the city of new orleans is so full of culture and tradition. it is almost idiotic to think that people can just leave thier history and stay gone. people do know the possible risk of rebuilding in an area that has a chance to be continuously devistated. but why do they, why do people take those chances, like those who rebuild in tornado prone, or earthquke areas. it becomes an issue of a love for home. why do the majority of nba players stay in the usa instead of playing in places where the people treat them like gods, pay them more and untaxed money, and in some cases, provide home and car. because they love the since of home, people need the since of home in new orleans. when i was in dc, even now in florida, its been hard to adjust. the food is different, the music is different, the people are different. everyone has different opinions, im just speaking for the people who choose not to leave. everyday i wish i was in new orleans and if not for the poor education system, no natural disaster could keep me from coming back, over and over again. this is'nt a crap city in the middle of nowhere, its a city worth coming back to. i told my wife that once the kids are in college im going back to retire. im not going to bash the opinion of showtime or no other person because thats all it is to me, an opinion.



FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS UP TO THE MINUTE UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION, VIEW THIS MULTIMEDIA LINK OF FOX 8 NEWS.
[url]http://www.channelchooser.com/index.php?watch=Fox%208&id=670&get=1[/url][/QUOTE]
I appreciate you approaching this from this perspective, and willing to discuss the situation without attacking others. I respect your opinion, and certainly can relate to the feeling of being close to home. I haven't had a strong tie to the culture, but my experience has been more related to family connections and history in my area. Personally, I couldn't choose to stay in a situation where every year, there was a chance my home, or the homes of people I care about could be in jeopardy. I just wouldn't want to subject myself or my family to that. With that being said, I certainly feel for those that had no choice in the matter, and face a difficult time ahead.

[quote=Showtime]I appreciate you approaching this from this perspective, and willing to discuss the situation without attacking others. I respect your opinion, and certainly can relate to the feeling of being close to home. I haven't had a strong tie to the culture, but my experience has been more related to family connections and history in my area. Personally, I couldn't choose to stay in a situation where every year, there was a chance my home, or the homes of people I care about could be in jeopardy. I just wouldn't want to subject myself or my family to that. With that being said, [B]I certainly feel for those that had no choice in the matter[/B], and face a difficult time ahead.[/quote]

Lol...No you do not...Every single one of your posts have been negative on this topic leading up. However it is good to see finally a first hand account of the situation set you straight. From now on think twice before posting on the mishaps of others...

[QUOTE=Godfather]Lol...No you do not...Every single one of your posts have been negative on this topic leading up. However it is good to see finally a first hand account of the situation set you straight. From now on think twice before posting on the mishaps of others...[/QUOTE]
OMFG do you ever get a clue? I guess not. I guess spelling it out as clear as day will never get your brain to wrap around the idea that I haven't been discussing every person in general terms.
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What the f-ck is the matter with you, Showtime? You know you're way off base here, just give up, you pompous prick.

[QUOTE=catzhernandez]What the f-ck is the matter with you, Showtime? You know you're way off base here, just give up, you pompous prick.[/QUOTE]
Arrogant: Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.

How have I been overbearing with self worth, when all I've been doing is trying to clarify my initial post in order for the misunderstandings to end? I've laid it all out there for people to understand what I was saying. I am done trying to get people to realize [B]I'm not attacking the poor, not criticizing the victims, or belittling their lives.[/B] But what the hell does that matter, when some idiot can make up his mind and then flame?

I challenge someone to find a post where I put down the flood victims. Find it. Any explanations have been just that: reasons to show why I feel the way I feel, and NOT a judgment against people.

Do we have mods? THis is a TERRIBLE thread whose whole purpose was someone getting to say NO IS GOING TO GET SMASHED and be a dick in a way that allowed the thread to keep going. At the time NO is in the path of something bad, we shouldn;t have a "where are their treams moving to after the city gets smashed" thread. thats insane.

[QUOTE=niko]Do we have mods? THis is a TERRIBLE thread whose whole purpose was someone getting to say NO IS GOING TO GET SMASHED and be a dick in a way that allowed the thread to keep going. At the time NO is in the path of something bad, we shouldn;t have a "where are their treams moving to after the city gets smashed" thread. thats insane.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there already is a topic on the hurricane situation in the OTC, and this is the NBA section, so I don't see anything wrong with discussing where the Hornets would play next season. However, I agree with you that his approach is blunt, and the topic probably should be discussed later on after we see how the area is effected.