Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=andrewbynum 31]If Kobe or LeBron had been the player injured this would be an automatic suspension regardless if the player was worthy of getting suspended. Sad really, lol.[/QUOTE]
Just a dirty play.
One, he steps on the guys foot while he's about to elevate and could have broken Wallace's ankle right there
Two, he elbows the guy in the ribs
Three, he basically throws him on the ground midair.
Perhaps if he wrapped Wallace up it would've been acceptable, but the entire act was dirty and pretty disgusting and an insult to the game.
I wonder if all the guys here supporting Bynum (and saying this was normal in the 80s, even though back then barely anyone could jump like Wallace) have ever played competitive basketball and know the incredible risk to the injured player of a dirty act like this.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=A.M.G.]I watched again and holy ****, [B]he did step on Wallace's foot.[/B] AND drove his elbow into Wallace as he did it. That could really change things, he did that to stop G-Wallace going up, that HAS to be a suspension if the league catches it. Now I'm starting to think it wasn't just stupidity or a freak accident, that was [U][B]dirty[/B][/U]. And Bynum was watching him the whole play, it's not like he was surprised, he knew what he was doing.
Well now I hope Bynum gets injured again.[/QUOTE]
yeah he's taking a page from the Isaiah Thomas book of 'how to get even when you aren't good enough to play like a real man' basketball.
Hopefully some one pulls a karl malone to isaiah elbow to the head on Bynum
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
lol !!!!
kids today don't know the difference between a "hard foul" and being "dirty".
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=StephenDedalus]yeah he's taking a page from the Isaiah Thomas book of 'how to get even when you aren't good enough to play like a real man' basketball.
Hopefully some one pulls a karl malone to isaiah elbow to the head on Bynum[/QUOTE]
hopefully someone pulls bynum's d!ck out of ur mouth.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]lol !!!!
kids today don't know the difference between a "hard foul" and being "dirty".[/QUOTE]
Man come on, don't be a loser. A hard foul is when you hack a guy on the wrist, or just go for the ball strong enough that the other guy can't score. You still have to go for the ball.
What Bynum did was clearly a flagrant foul because there was no attempt on the ball. It's that simple. The fact that it was a hard body check where he put his elbow into the guys ribs makes it a flagrant 2.
Was it dirty? What was going through Bynum's dull mind? Did he have the intention to step on Wallace's foot, making this 10X worse than it would have been? I doubt it. Was he thinking "I'm going to injure this guy right here"? Most likely not. So I'll give him that, he shouldn't be suspended more than 1 or 2 games.
If someone body checks Kobe next time he drives to the basket, you better not say it was dirty. That's all I'm saying.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
if Dirk got suspended for trying to push Harpring off his back after several hacks and accidentally hitting his face then AB should lose at least one game too.
of course my fantasy team cries out NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
The line starts hear for the whining when Bynym gets suspended. The first two spots in line are reserved for Kobe24 and Lakers_Kobe_Fan.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=A.M.G.]Man come on, don't be a loser. A hard foul is when you hack a guy on the wrist, or just go for the ball strong enough that the other guy can't score. You still have to go for the ball.
What Bynum did was clearly a flagrant foul because there was no attempt on the ball. It's that simple. The fact that it was a hard body check where he put his elbow into the guys ribs makes it a flagrant 2.
Was it dirty? What was going through Bynum's dull mind? Did he have the intention to step on Wallace's foot, making this 10X worse than it would have been? I doubt it. Was he thinking "I'm going to injure this guy right here"? Most likely not. So I'll give him that, he shouldn't be suspended more than 1 or 2 games.
If someone body checks Kobe next time he drives to the basket, you better not say it was dirty. That's all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
Don't be a puss. A foul is when you hack a guy, as you say, or go for the ball strong enuf that he can't score (as you say). That's just a foul, imo.
A HARD foul sends a guy to the floor and probably warrants a flagrant.
A dirty foul is something like sliding your foot underneath the jump shooter (Bowen), a deliberate clothesline (Bell), etc etc
Bynum laid him out and got what he deserved...a flagrant.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
Sorry to disappoint everyone but the league is not going to suspend Bynum for that flagrant foul, they can't be that soft :oldlol:
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=Allstar24]Sorry to disappoint everyone but the league is not going to suspend Bynum for that flagrant foul, they can't be that soft :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Man I really hope someone does this to you in your next pick up game and then you can come back and tell us if it's a nice, clean, hard foul.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
Throwing you elbow into someones chest area with force is not a hard foul. It is straight up malicious...
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=aznboy2k2]Youre the ****ing moron.
I wasn't even comparing the two fouls.
I just WANT Bell to own Kobe again. And have no one back him up.
Watching you Laker fans cry wolf last time was priceless.
Wallace has a collapse lung and a broken ribs, yet you ****heads show no sympathy. Some even blamed Wallace for being in the position he was in.[/QUOTE]
Stop putting every Laker fan in the same ****ing category. You people never learn.
I showed sympathy for Gerald. I feel just as bad as the next guy. But people act like Bynum intentionally hurt him and that's not true. Bynum has no history of playing dirty, so you should give him the benefit of the doubt.
Grow up.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
Lol at all these laker's fans defending Andy " I've had a nice week let the dick riding begin" Bynum. How was that not a bad foul? Dude wasn't even going for the ball, Wasn't even LOOKING towards the ball. But it's not like Bynum was trying to hurt the guy...
Has there been one poster who WASN'T a Lakers fan that didn't think that was a flagrant?
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
[QUOTE=andrewbynum 31]Stop putting every Laker fan in the same ****ing category. You people never learn.
I showed sympathy for Gerald. I feel just as bad as the next guy. But people act like Bynum intentionally hurt him and that's not true. [B][U]Bynum has no history of playing dirty[/U][/B], so you should give him the benefit of the doubt.
Grow up.[/QUOTE]
Pulled Greg Odens ankle.
Clothslined LeBron.
Decked Gerald.
Re: Gerald Wallace hospitalized for possible collapsed lung
If Bynum wasn't a Laker fan people wouldn't be *****ing about how dirty of a player he is. He fouled Gerald Wallace hard, and unforunately Gerald was injured. It's not like he pushed him in mid-air and then laughed as Gerald lay on the floor injured. As a Laker fan I agree that it was a flagrant foul, but saying he intentionally fouled him, hoping to injure him, and then stepping on him is total BS.