Great article about why people hate Kobe

[QUOTE=plowking]Jordan was selfish like Kobe early in his career. Both players grew out of it.

[B][COLOR="Red"]Please explain how MJ was as selfish as Kobe? Please compare and contrast?[/COLOR][/B]

Immaturity? Jordan asked for his stats at the end of quarters in the first part of his career.

[B][COLOR="Red"]How is that "immature?"[/COLOR][/B]

Privleged/entitled? Jordan waved off as many screens as Kobe did. He tried to be a one man show.

[B][COLOR="Red"]Funny.... I've seen many Mj games and I don't believe I've seen him wave off a screen let alone one as a 2nd year player, let alone one from one of the greatest power forwards of all time.[/COLOR][/B]

Hate that he's fake? Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not fake compared to Kobe? What did he do in particular that made him less fake?

[B][COLOR="Red"]LOOOLLL you can't be serious. I know MJ had a public persona that was different than his private life, but that's not what I mean. I also understand that they have to say the right things for the sake of the league, team and sponsors. But do you remember the Shaq feud? the Phil feud? him throwing his teammates under the bus?[/COLOR][/B]

He tries to hard? All I can say is :rolleyes:
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What's so hard to understand? He tries to hard, its that simple. He forces shots, he tries hard to fit in, tries hard to do the spectacular.[/COLOR][/B]



I don't hate Jordan, or like Kobe better then Jordan, but I don't get how you can apply one logic to Kobe but not Jordan.[/QUOTE]

And like I mentioned.... MJ gets a pass because well.........

HE'S EARNED IT!!!!

Its like if Ariza shows up late for practice, he'll get fined but Kobe won't.

Why? because Kobe has earned that right.

If Sasha takes a bad shot he gets benched, but Kobe can take that same shot 3 times in a row and won't.

Why? because Kobe has earned that right.

There are double standards and those double standards exist for a reason.

And MJ has earned the right to have double standards, its that simple.

[QUOTE=plowking]He didn't carry anything. It was a team effort.

He had the best rebounding team in the league. He had Big Z drawing out players from the paint and opening it up. He also had good spot up shooters. [/quote]

He didn't carry them? Seriously? Wow man that Cavs team was the least talented bunch to make the Finals since the AI-led Sixers. I'll take the cast Wade his this year over any one that LeBron has had before this year.

[QUOTE=plowking]You're just another Lebron fan who claims to be a Cavs supporter. Whenever I am reading the game threads its always this supporting cast player made a mistake, etc. Though when Bron makes a mistake, its "the Cavs were bad on that play".[/quote]

I haven't seen anybody consistenly speak poorly of Mo Williams, Z or Delonte, and Bron is regularly criticized for settling for jumpers or not posting up smaller defenders. When I see you in game threads all I ever see you do is ***** about foul calls just like Kobe24.

[QUOTE=plowking]Hughes averaged 15, 4 and 4. Since when is that horrible?[/quote]
Hughes averaged 15 points shooting 40% from the field. Do you really want to argue that thats decent for a 2nd option who got as many open shots as he did?

[QUOTE=plowking]Gooden averaged 11 and 9. That's better then a guy like Haslem.[/quote]
Gooden is not better than Haslem. He's talented but he's a knucklehead who makes more mental mistakes than any player in the league. Why do you think he is now on his 6th team in 7 seasons?

[QUOTE=plowking]Pavlovic shot 41% from downtown and averaged 9 ppg. That is a top shooter in the league.[/quote]
Pavlovic is a 1 dimensional player who does nothing well but shoot and can't even create his own shot, as well as being streaky as hell. He is nowhere near a top shooter in the leauge

[QUOTE=plowking]Andy is one of the best defensive fowards out there.[/quote]
Yes, but what else does he bring to the court?

[QUOTE=plowking]Damon Jones was still able to shoot 39% from 3 point land despite being horrible according to you.[/QUOTE]
See Pavlovic

[QUOTE=plowking]He didn't carry anything. It was a team effort.[/QUOTE]

Yeah of course, but who was the best player on that squad ? LeBron. Was it close ? No.

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Hughes averaged 15, 4 and 4. Since when is that horrible?[/QUOTE]

You forgot to mention his horrible FG%, his stupid shot selection and his inability to stay healthy. His stupid contract also made things a lot worse.

[QUOTE]Gooden averaged 11 and 9. That's better then a guy like Haslem.[/QUOTE]

Gooden is one of the stupidest players in the league. I'd take Haslem over Gooden any day of the week. At least Haslem can be on the floor during crunch time, you know he's reliable and he's not gonna f*ck things up. You can't say the same about Gooden.

[QUOTE]Pavlovic shot 41% from downtown and averaged 9 ppg. That is a top shooter in the league.[/QUOTE]

And his defense was good, sometimes great too. But he shouldn't be the starting SG for a Finals team. Just look at the other SGs who went to the Finals the last few years : Kobe, Ray Allen, Pavlovic, Ginobili, Wade, Stackhouse, Rip Hamilton. Please don't tell me Pavlovic is on the same level as those guys ... He can't even create his own shot (well he can, but he's such a horrible finisher it's really not a good idea). He's a great guy to have off the bench. But he's no starter material, especially on a team with big goals.

[QUOTE]Andy is one of the best defensive fowards out there.[/QUOTE]

True

[QUOTE]Damon Jones was still able to shoot 39% from 3 point land despite being horrible according to you.[/QUOTE]

That's basically all he did. He just stood behind the 3 point line waiting for a pass because that's all he's capable of. He can't create for himself or for his teammates. He got abused on D on a regular basis. If it wasn't for his shooting ability he would have never made the league. And now less than 2 years later he can't get PT on a mediocre Bucks team.

And I'm not always on LeBron's nuts, sorry. When he does something stupid I say it. I've already complained about his sometimes stupid shot selection or his lack of agressiveness.

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[URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/green_room/2008/06/i_hate_kobe_so.html"]http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/green_room/2008/06/i_hate_kobe_so.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

This is the greatest basketball article ever written. The guy should win a Nobel prize.

[QUOTE=godofgods]This is the greatest basketball article ever written. The guy should win a Nobel prize.[/QUOTE]

agree

[QUOTE=Stringer Bell]My guess is that she willingly gave it up, but then she started getting mad when he was getting too rough and wanted to bust on her face, and told him to stop. He claims he stopped right away when she told him to stop, but I think he kept banging her. The question is for how long. A long time, or just a few seconds?

[b]He didn't even know about pre-ejaculatory semen[/b]. :oldlol:

[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0924041kobea14.html[/url][/QUOTE]

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Did he mean are you kidding me like are you seriously asking me this question, do you think I'm stupid... or did he mean are you kidding me i didn't know..

[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Did he mean are you kidding me like are you seriously asking me this question, do you think I'm stupid... [b]or did he mean are you kidding me i didn't know[/b]..[/QUOTE]


The latter:lol

I never read/payed attention to any of the stuff in that case but after reading some of that transcript, it makes it even easier to hate on KObe:oldlol:

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[QUOTE=Diesel J]The latter:lol

I never read/payed attention to any of the stuff in that case but after reading some of that transcript, it makes it even easier to hate on KObe:oldlol:

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I don't know why that makes you dislike Kobe even more. Any professional athlete, especially one who was as popular as Kobe would want it to remain on the downlow. Especially if it was false accusations (which we have to assume, since he was not guilty). I don't know Kobe the person, so I try not to judge whether or not I like him based on his personality. All I know is he works very hard to be the best basketball player he can be and he's sacraficed a lot for the Lakers. He has a lot of flaws, but overall I appreciate what he's brought since coming to the Lakers.

Who cares why haters hate????

As Katt Williams said "we need haters, keep hatin haters"

How is a article GREAT because it explains what a "HATER" thinks???? :confusedshrug:

Haters hate because it's their job. No matter what the excuse for hating is, the bottom line is the person is still a HATER...

And sorry I don't have a lot of respect for, or for that matter care what ANY hater thinks.

Regardless of what they are hating on...

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Dude step away from your computer and go out into the real world for awhile.

Seriously, if #1 you have this saved to your computer you need a life, and #2 if you took the time to look this up to post you REALLY need to get a life.

Try talking to some females/males whatever floats your boat, but please GET A LIFE.

As a Lakers fan, there are times when Ive disliked, and still to this day, believe he has a bad attitude about a lot of things in general. I think his maturity level is questionable, and I believe its how he has been raised. Silver spoon up his rear for most of his life...etc etc...whatever.


He has a crummy attitude, and thats it.


Do I hate him because of that? I dont know the man personally, so no. I enjoy watching him play ball. That is the jist of my feelings on Kobe. I dig watching the man play, and hes very good at his job.


Some of you need to look in the mirror and question how you could hate someone, that has no weight in your life, with so much enthusiasm.

Some of you bring up all of these silly reasons, and what not...and you get outrageous with your hatred at times. Honestly, you need therapy, or something, because deep down, do you not enjoy watching Kobe play ball?


Thats all these men are....athletes here to entertain us, with the game of basketball. Period.


So, relax, and just stop caring so much about their personality traits, and quirks. Who cares?

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Thats all these men are....athletes here to entertain us, with the game of basketball. Period.

So, relax, and just stop caring so much about their personality traits, and quirks. Who cares?[/QUOTE]

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Agreed. Are some of the people here grown men crying about a basketball player? If so, wow.

this is my fav quote from the article:

[CENTER][I]What about what happened in Colorado? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we no longer are allowed to speak about that. That's tucked under the rug. [/I]

[I]Was Bryant remorseful? Sure, don't you remember he bought his wife a trillion dollar diamond ring and dragged her to the press conference?
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[I]This guy makes Bill Clinton look like Ward Cleaver in the husband department. Yet, when he was coming back from the trial to play in the games that night, announcers and members of the media acted like he was a hero! That's unforgivable. Why does nobody talk about this? Never mind. You don't have to answer that one, it probably won't make it past my editor. [/I]
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people have short memories and

dont like to talk about [B]rape[/B]; this is the main reason why i hate kobe

[QUOTE=Laker4Lyfe]Dude step away from your computer and go out into the real world for awhile.

Seriously, if #1 you have this saved to your computer you need a life, and #2 if you took the time to look this up to post you REALLY need to get a life.

Try talking to some females/males whatever floats your boat, but please GET A LIFE.[/QUOTE]

You are aware someone else posted the link. Think before you open your mouth moron.