Wade or Iverson?

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Um dude.. Iverson's Sixers were basically what the Bulls are now but better. Iverson was better than Rose is now... Mutombo was WAY better than Noah and as a unit defensively the Sixers spank these Bulls. Yes Allen's Sixers could play with any of the teams you mentioned. If they could play with Shaq/Kobe Lakers at the peak.. why wouldn't they be able to? The year the Sixers went to the finals Mutombo won DPOY...[/QUOTE]

The East was f*cking horrible back then. There was only 1 other team that won more than 50+ games and that was the Bucks. The Bulls played the Heat and Celtics 7 times... both team shits on Iverson's 01 sixers.

What was the Sixers record in 2001 Vs west teams? 16-12?

Wade is a more efficient scorer, better or at least more willing passer, and a better defender.

Iverson has a higher offensive ceiling, but he routinely is so poor in terms of efficiency so who cares.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]The East was f*cking horrible back then. There was only 1 other team that won more than 50+ games and that was the Bucks. The Bulls played the Heat and Celtics 7 times... both team shits on Iverson's 01 sixers.

What was the Sixers record in 2001 Vs west teams? 16-12?[/QUOTE]

besides top 4 teams, east this year is horrible too. and west is weaker, u dun get ur season record by only playing ur conference, u play them both.

west was stacked back them, primie duncan, shaq/kobe, nash/nowitzki, malone/stockton, and pippen/rasheed/smith portland, webber/peja/divac

all we all know what David Stern favor!

his handpicking superstars and big cities... inflated accomplishments

[QUOTE=Shih508]i can point out many ppl who guards kobe better, and who believes what kobe says anyway

battier, artest, bowen, raja bell in pheonix year? a 23 yr kobe hadn't faced enuff good defender back then.

and if george lynch wasn't injured, he'd be the one guarding kobe not snow. kobe sounded more like making excuse for being out played by AI.

when ur 3rd best playey, 2nd offerensive threat is Aaron Mckie. it's really no argument to say AI had a great supporting casts. Just a good enuff one to complement AI who's hard to build around.

Tyrone hill wasn't a shock blocker in sixers years, if you really dunno wat u are talking about u should not talk[/QUOTE]

Talent wise, they weren't "great", though they complemented him very well, but they were a lot better than what Wade had in 2009 and 2010, that's not even debatable.

And again, you give Wade a guy like even Miami Shaq and you get a championship contender and as it turned out a ring, could've been 2 if not for injuries. You give Wade Lebron and Bosh and you get an instant contender, and imo, they look like the favorite.

The difference is that even though Iverson didn't play with that type of talent, I don't think he's a good fit around other elite scorers and that's why Wade is a better player, you have a better chance of winning with him, and that's the point of the game, to win. And I don't see any reason to take Iverson over Wade to carry a team either.

[QUOTE=Shih508]besides top 4 teams, east this year is horrible too. and west is weaker, u dun get ur season record by only playing ur conference, u play them both.

west was stacked back them, primie duncan, shaq/kobe, nash/nowitzki, malone/stockton, and pippen/rasheed/smith portland, webber/peja/divac[/QUOTE]

The East this season was better than it was in the last 5 or 7 years. Those teams in the west were good enough for the Lakers to finish 11-0 :rolleyes: The Mavs werent [B]that [/B]good in 2001, Jailblazers fell apart, and the Jazz were REALLY old. The Heat and Celtics would tear all of those teams up.

Bigsmoke, as much as i like D-rose, he's my 3rd favorite player after MJ and AI.

look at his STATS in his mvp season, his fg% has dropped dramatically cuz his taking a bigger role on his team's scoring. you should know better without ref's whistle, it's hard for slasher like AI, Wade or Rose to have great efficient on scoring.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]The East this season was better than it was in the last 5 or 7 years. Those teams in the west were good enough for the Lakers to finish 11-0 :rolleyes: The Mavs werent [B]that [/B]good in 2001, Jailblazers fell apart, and the Jazz were REALLY old. The Heat and[B] Celtics[/B] would tear all of those teams up.[/QUOTE]

u really sure celtics this year is any better than those teams u mentioned? haven't heard jailblazers till mo cheeks era. mav didn't stand out cuz their conference was so stacked. Jazz can prolly tear apart east 4-15 this year lmao.

Smoke as a fan of Derrick Rose... I would think you'd have the ultimate respect for Iverson. Both teams are built almost identically. Rose is what 6'2 200 pounds? Iverson was 5'11-6'0 and 165 doing MORE than what Rose is doing in a similar situation.

league today is much weaker than before. that's why garnett is still one of better defender in this league without nothing he had in the past. it's the softest era!

Wade and wouldn't think twice about it

[QUOTE=Shih508]league today is much weaker than before. that's why garnett is still one of better defender in this league without nothing he had in the past. it's the softest era![/QUOTE]

you old people are so annoying.

thats all you people with all that ":blah :blah is better than :blah :blah because of the era it played in"

lol @ saying teams in 2001 were better than 2011. The Lakers were amazing that season and thats it.

[QUOTE=Shih508]league today is much weaker than before. that's why garnett is still one of better defender in this league without nothing he had in the past. it's the softest era![/QUOTE]

Yea if 34 year old KG can still be a shut down defender in this era it definitely is soft and weaker.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Yea if 34 year old KG can still be a shut down defender in this era it definitely is soft and weaker.[/QUOTE]

Karl Malone at 36 won an MVP award in this "Iverson era"

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Karl Malone at 36 won an MVP award in this "Iverson era"[/QUOTE]

Malone was really putting up mvp like #s. he was better than he ever was. but when u look at kg it's whole different story.... everyone who watched kg before know kg is shell of his old self and hes still dominating this league in defense

do u ever think malone may take steroid? and that was 1997 rite? a year before mcgwuire and sosa hr record setting year? players back then seems to held their prim well till their late 30's. look at today, all superstars start playing like shit when they hitting age 32-33. drug enhancement is another story.

but kid, everything u know is what u heard but not what u see.