Analysis and reactions to Deron Williams signing with team in Turkey

no it's the same rules.

[QUOTE=GilZero]This is actually a great, great post. Well most of it atleast.

You guys in here keep mocking the Euroleague poster above and the league itself while your own knowledge about European basketball is laughable to say the least. You don't know the rules, how the league is built, the players, the defense. And yet you throw around the "Anthony Parker 2x MVP" joke like you know shit :wtf:

The lockout has had a purpose for me atleast, exposing the ignorance and arrogance of NBA fans and what they know about the outside world of basketball. My god. :facepalm[/QUOTE]

That's what happens when you talk so much nonsense over a longer period of time, people will stop listening.


What if I told you that "Euroleague" not too long ago said that the reason black people in the US are more athletic than other people in the US is because they eat more chicken which is filled with roids, injectected testosterone or whatever it was.
Would you find a person who said stuff like this with a straight face credible at all?

[QUOTE=LJJ]The answer is no, but oh boy. You are opening a can of worms. :oldlol:

Lakas is going to post a massive rant now on how the referees at the Olympics were systematically ignoring team USA traveling violations and calling the entire game in favor of the US.[/QUOTE]

thankfully i have euroleague on ignore.

After Utah and New Jersey, his family will love Istanbul. It's a great city. I think playing overseas would be a good way for him to find his groove back after the wrist injury. I'm cool with it as long as he comes back whenever the lockout is over.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]That's what happens when you talk so much nonsense over a longer period of time, people will stop listening.


What if I told you that "Euroleague" not too long ago said that the reason black people in the US are more athletic than other people in the US is because they eat more chicken which is filled with roids, injectected testosterone or whatever it was.
Would you find a person who said stuff like this with a straight face credible at all?[/QUOTE]

I thought that just gave them bigger breasts?

Good for him & family. Istanbul is heaven for foreign players.

[QUOTE=Jon_Koncak]Deron played against a top 8 euroleague team last year and dominated as expected.16 points on 5/8 fgs ,5 assists in 24 minutes against Real Madrid.I watched the game and it was more dominant performace than what the boxscore showed.He was drivin and dishing at will,noone could stay in front of him.

Seriously it's an insult to common sense to suggest that arguably the best point guard in the world,the player with the most 20-20 performances in last years, can not win the euroleague mvp award if given the proper time to adjust (1-2 months) and a relatively strong roster around him.[/QUOTE]

[B]That was under mixed NBA rules, not Euroleague rules.[/B] And Sergio Llull (who was mainly guarding him in that game) is the worst defender at guard in the Euroleague. Even Jasikevicius is better than him on defense.

[QUOTE=chips93]so basically, as long as deron is careful with his feet, so he doesnt travel, and is a little more careful with palming, he'll be the best player in europe.

how come none none of these things slowed him down in the olympics?[/QUOTE]

They don't call travels on Team USA at the Olympics. Maybe 1 out of 20.

They enforce the rules in Euroleague.

[QUOTE=Jon_Koncak]You should take everything Euroleague writes with a grin of salt.Fiba refs are no stricter in enforcing palming than Nba ones.They call it rarely,and it's not because euroleague guards don't palm.Drew Nicholas a guard of euroleague champions Panathinaikos palms the ball in every dribble he makes and never gets called for that.They're stricter when it comes to travelling,that's true but thats' not out of pure love for the rules.If that was the case they wouldn't allow the hundrends of illegal screens than go unpunished in every euroleague game.You think Garnett is bad?Watch Mike Batiste or Felipe Reyes,the best ass-screeners in the world.[/QUOTE]

Moving screens are legal in Euroleague. Why would they call fouls when it is legal?

[QUOTE=chips93]i dont really watch any euroleague, but are their rules any different from the rules at the 08 olympics?[/QUOTE]

Yes. The Olympic refs will NOT enforce travel rules on Team USA. Neither will the FIBA refs at the World Championship. They might call 1 out of 20 travels on Team USA, versus how the NBA might call 1 out of 1,000.

The ULEB refs (Euroleague/Eurocup) will enforce the travel rules. 2 out of 3 travels, at least, will be called.

[QUOTE=Jon_Koncak]no it's the same rules.[/QUOTE]

The Olympic refs do NOT enforce those traveling rules against Team USA. So, no, it is NOT the same at all. Not even remotely.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Moving screens are legal in Euroleague. Why would they call fouls when it is legal?[/QUOTE]

Lol no.

And I've actually played ball in Europe and don't live in Arkansas.

[QUOTE=LJJ]Lol no.[/QUOTE]

Moving screens are perfectly legal in Euroleague.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Moving screens are perfectly legal in Euroleague.[/QUOTE]

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Now shut up you fukcing inbred Arkansas piece of shit.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Moving screens are perfectly legal in Euroleague.[/QUOTE]
Wow you know nothing about fundamental basketball. You can say they are lax on calling moving screens but clearly they are illegal, it would be like rugby if they were not. You'd have lead blockers.