Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994842]3ball has admitted he stopped watching in 2011 so he literally has never seen PG or Butler play. :lol



Damn, so 3ball is saying MJ is overrated as a defender? :lebronamazed:

[U]Bulls' defensive ranks with MJ as the primary defender (1989-1993)[/U]: 11th, 19th, 7th, 4th, 7th

[U]Bulls' defensive ranks with Pippen as the primary defender (1994-1998)[/U]: 6th, 2nd, 1st, 4th, 3rd[/QUOTE]

This clown also keeps going on about who did he shut down, who did he shut down? Who gives a shit. I don't care about that. What made Pippen such a devastating defensive force out there was his help/team defense. As that gif that was posted shows where he's basically defending four different guys on one play. You want don't want Pippen glued to a player. That's a waste of what makes him the greatest perimeter defensive player ever. You want him to be able to disrupt the offense like he did vs the Jazz in their finals series. Sloan was constantly complaining to the refs during their two match ups that he was playing illegal defense because of how much he was ****ing with what they wanted to do.

[video=youtube;eOoWZNp0AlA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOoWZNp0AlA[/video]

[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994845]This clown also keeps going on about who did he shut down, who did he shut down? Who gives a shit. I don't care about that. What made Pippen such a devastating defensive force out there was his help/team defense. As that gif that was posted shows where he's basically defending four different guys on one play. You want don't want Pippen glued to a player. That's a waste of what makes him the greatest perimeter defensive player ever. You want him to be able to disrupt the offense like he did vs the Jazz in their finals series. Sloan was constantly complaining to the refs during their two match ups that he was playing illegal defense because of much he was ****ing with what they wanted to do.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Has any perimeter defender had series where they dominated defensively the way Pippen did the 98' finals or 98' ECF? He was wrecking the entire offense. Utah had the #1 offense and Indiana the #4 offense. Utah went from scoring 101 a game in the season to 80 in the finals; Indiana went from 96 in the season to 92 in the ECF.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994851]Exactly. Has any perimeter defender had series where they dominated defensively the way Pippen did the 98' finals or 98' ECF? He was wrecking the entire offense. Utah had the #1 offense and Indiana the #4 offense. Utah went from scoring 101 a game in the season to 80 in the finals; Indiana went from 96 in the season to 92 in the ECF.[/QUOTE]
Pippen shot bad though, so obviously he's the worst player of all time and 3ball could beat him one on one.

[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994845]This clown also keeps going on about who did he shut down, who did he shut down? Who gives a shit. I don't care about that. What made Pippen such a devastating defensive force out there was his help/team defense. As that gif that was posted shows where he's basically defending four different guys on one play. You want don't want Pippen glued to a player. That's a waste of what makes him the greatest perimeter defensive player ever. You want him to be able to disrupt the offense like he did vs the Jazz in their finals series. Sloan was constantly complaining to the refs during their two match ups that he was playing illegal defense because of how much he was ****ing with what they wanted to do.[/QUOTE]

We've already given him examples, quotes. stats. Not sure what hed looking for.

3bsll want examples. How about game 2 of the 91 NBA Finals when Pippen held Magic Johnson to 31% shooting and 4 TOs.

Or the 96 ECF when in games 2-4, Pippen held Hardaway to 38% shooting.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994851]Exactly. Has any perimeter defender had series where they dominated defensively the way Pippen did the 98' finals or 98' ECF? He was wrecking the entire offense. Utah had the #1 offense and Indiana the #4 offense. Utah went from scoring 101 a game in the season to 80 in the finals; Indiana went from 96 in the season to 92 in the ECF.[/QUOTE]

Pippen was glued to Mark Jackson and wasn't playing multiple guys more than mj or anyone else - so i've caught you guys making up narratives...

and those highlights show shading/help defense that everyone does - you don't think jordan has tons of help defense highlights and better than Pippen?.. you don't think Butler or George had highlights like that? You think we're stupid on here or something? ... Those highlights mean as much as the first brick I take when I go ball right now...

Ultimately, the Pacers had lesser offense in that series because MJ held their highest-volume player to 38% shooting and the Pacers were wearing down from guarding and doubling MJ, so they had less capacity for offense (MJ-ball wins the attrition battle)

[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994850][video=youtube;eOoWZNp0AlA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOoWZNp0AlA[/video][/QUOTE]

This has to be fake. Why is Kobe saying young players should emulate Pippen's defense? Doesn't Kobe know Paul George and Jimmy Butler are better defenders? He played against all three so why is he pretending Pippen is some kind of GOAT level defender?

I think the real answer here is the media is working to push Pippen. Think about it. When is the last time you turned on the TV and didn't see Pippen hawking some merchandise? Isn't he doing My Pillow ads these days, among others? The media is working overtime to hype Pippen because the money is with Pippen. The more hyped he is, the more ads he can sell and the more revenue he brings in to channels like ESPN. Hence the conspiracy to tell everyone how good he was--when we all know he [I]really[/I] was by the worst "star" of the 90's, as 3ball and co. have exposed. Was Pippen even better than Chris Gatling or Tyrone Hill? Would he even make an all-star team if he didn't play in Chicago?

[QUOTE]Pippen shot bad though, so obviously he's the worst player of all time and 3ball could beat him one on one.[/QUOTE]

True. Not only that, why was Pippen even on the floor? As 3ball says, Kukoc>Pippen. Why didn't they just make Kukoc the starting SF and have Pippen come off the bench during the same stints Randy Brown played? Phil Jackson is clueless. 3ball>Phil Jackson.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994856]This has to be fake. Why is Kobe saying young players should emulate Pippen's defense? Doesn't Kobe know Paul George and Jimmy Butler are better defenders? He played against all three so why is he pretending Pippen is some kind of GOAT level defender?

I think the real answer here is the media is working to push Pippen. Think about it. When is the last time you turned on the TV and didn't see Pippen hawking some merchandise? Isn't he doing My Pillow ads these days, among others? The media is working overtime to hype Pippen because the money is with Pippen. The more hyped he is, the more ads he can sell and the more revenue he brings in to channels like ESPN. Hence the conspiracy to tell everyone how good he was--when we all know he [I]really[/I] was by the worst "star" of the 90's, as 3ball and co. have exposed. Was Pippen even better than Chris Gatling or Tyrone Hill? Would he even make an all-star team if he didn't play in Chicago?



True. Not only that, why was Pippen even on the floor? As 3ball says, Kukoc>Pippen. Why didn't they just make Kukoc the starting SF and have Pippen come off the bench during the same stints Randy Brown played? Phil Jackson is clueless. 3ball>Phil Jackson.[/QUOTE]

those highlights show shading/help defense that everyone does - you don't think jordan has tons of help defense highlights and better than Pippen?.. you don't think Butler or George had highlights like that? You think we're stupid on here or something? ... Those highlights mean as much as the first brick I take when I go ball right now...

Ultimately, the Pacers had lesser offense in that series because MJ held their highest-volume player to 38% shooting and the Pacers were wearing down from guarding and doubling MJ, so they had less capacity for offense (MJ-ball wins the attrition battle)

[QUOTE=3ball;13994859]those highlights show shading/help defense that everyone does - you don't think jordan has tons of help defense highlights and better than Pippen?.. you don't think Butler or George had highlights like that? You think we're stupid on here or something? ... Those highlights mean as much as the first brick I take when I go ball right now...

Ultimately, the Pacers had lesser offense in that series because MJ held their highest-volume player to 38% shooting and the Pacers were wearing down from guarding and doubling MJ, so they had less capacity for offense (MJ-ball wins the attrition battle)[/QUOTE]
Why should we believe anything you say when you've been caught lying numerous times on here? And make ridiculous claims like dunking 4 times on a row on Zach Randolph and scoring at will on Raja Bell?

[QUOTE=RRR3;13994861]Why should we believe anything you say when you've been caught lying numerous times on here? And make ridiculous claims like dunking 4 times on a row on Zach Randolph and scoring at will on Raja Bell?[/QUOTE]

I posted video of myself in flip-flops doing mid-range contested pull-ups that lebron avoids, and a behind-the-back crossover gather-step that he's since copied and increasingly uses as he ages (it's easier on the knees than a regular crossover in front of body)

And I promised to post a handles video this year.. I might film some of it right now.. we'll see

[QUOTE=3ball;13994865]I posted video of myself in flip-flops doing mid-range contested pull-ups that lebron avoids, and a behind-the-back crossover gather-step that he's since copied and increasingly uses as he ages (it's easier on the knees than a regular crossover in front of body)

And I promised to post a handles video this year.. I might film some of it right now.. we'll see[/QUOTE]

Don't forget the "many beautiful women" or the "hottest woman in Vegas". :lol

[QUOTE=3ball;13994865]I posted video of myself in flip-flops doing mid-range contested pull-ups that lebron avoids, and a behind-the-back crossover gather-step that he's since copied and increasingly uses as he ages (it's easier on the knees than a regular crossover in front of body)

And I promised to post a handles video this year.. I might film some of it right now.. we'll see[/QUOTE] Where's your videos? YouTube channel? I want to watch one of yr videos.

[QUOTE=3ball;13994865]I posted video of myself in flip-flops doing mid-range contested pull-ups that lebron avoids, and a behind-the-back crossover gather-step that he's since copied and increasingly uses as he ages (it's easier on the knees than a regular crossover in front of body)

And I promised to post a handles video this year.. I might film some of it right now.. we'll see[/QUOTE]
You posted a video in which we could barely see anything. Looked like you were filming some random guys at the park tbh. Where's the proof you played at FIU? Eh?

[QUOTE=RRR3;13994882]You posted a video in which we could barely see anything. Looked like you were filming some random guys at the park tbh. Where's the proof you played at FIU? Eh?[/QUOTE]

How do we even know it is him? Anyone can post a random video and claim it is them.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994883]How do we even know it is him? Anyone can post a random video and claim it is them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Dude filmed some guys at the park and claimed it was him.