wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players

[QUOTE=Doranku]Yeah and more than half of them came when there were 8 teams in the league. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Making it even more impressive. Think about how competitive the NBA would be if you got rid of the Bobcats and Hornets of the world and the league was only made up of the top 8 teams right now.

[QUOTE=red1]So you are complaining that they hold the ball for full-court heaves, is that really the entire point of your thread? So instead of focusing on the million other things you could have noticed you decide to make a thread complaining about this?[/QUOTE]

no the thread is about how players internalize what the public emphasize as important about the game and tailor their play to fit those expectations and criterias. It accounts for why the "volume shooter" has fallen to the wayside as NBA viewers and analysts have become more efficiency focused. Kobe is really the last remaining star of that era and his mindset is now almost anachronistic.

[QUOTE=red1]Very insightful post, a picture is worth a thousand words. If one looks closely he will notice that shaq is carrying kobe the same way he carried him to three rings during the three-peat[/QUOTE]
The slaves always carry the royalty

Not a big deal but it's just funny to me when players purposefully refrain from taking long shots at the end of quarters. Low percentage shot but it doesn't hurt to attempt

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Dude had 26,395 points in his career. Averages of 21/6/5 (peak of 29/9/8). Was perennial all NBA team member (5 first team defense, 3 first team, bunch of 2nd team). 13 time all star. And 8 championships.

And like Kobe, he wasn't a Lebron/Wade-esque shooting stats whore :lol

You think maybe you're showing your bias here? You see the double standard?[/QUOTE]
Was he ever considered the best player in the world? Even for one season?
How many times was he top 5 in MVP voting?
Did he ever lead the league in scoring in the regular season or playoffs?

Kobe was either the best player or arguably the best player in 2006-2010 and Top 5 in MVP voting 10 times. Hondo on Kobe's level? Is that what you're saying? Just another horrible opinion by a Kobe hater.

[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]The slaves always carry the royalty[/QUOTE]
:biggums: shaq is a slave and kobe is royalty? the fcuk is wrong with your f*gg*t ass

[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]The slaves always carry the royalty[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :applause:

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kazaam ni99a

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Dude had 26,395 points in his career. Averages of 21/6/5 (peak of 29/9/8). Was perennial all NBA team member (5 first team defense, 3 first team, bunch of 2nd team). 13 time all star. And 8 championships.

And like Kobe, he wasn't a Lebron/Wade-esque shooting stats whore :lol

You think maybe you're showing your bias here? You see the double standard?[/QUOTE]
So if Hondo did this in the same era bill Russell won 11 rings in, then Russell >>>>> Jordan, right?

None of Hondo's rings came when the league had 8 teams.

In order of how many teams in the following years:

63-66 - 9 (4 rings)
68 - 12
69 - 14
74 - 17
76 -18

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Making it even more impressive. Think about how competitive the NBA would be if you got rid of the Bobcats and Hornets of the world and the league was only made up of the top 8 teams right now.[/QUOTE]
How about you go watch a video of 60's basketball. You should be ashamed if yourself.

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Making it even more impressive. Think about how competitive the NBA would be if you got rid of the Bobcats and Hornets of the world and the league was only made up of the top 8 teams right now.[/QUOTE]

I understand that reasoning but what if the players back then just weren't as athletic and good as the players today? Like yeah you'd have all the best players but maybe those best players aren't as good as the best players from say 2003 or 1993?

[QUOTE=STATUTORY]no the thread is about how players internalize what the public emphasize as important about the game and tailor their play to fit those expectations and criterias. It accounts for why the "volume shooter" has fallen to the wayside as NBA viewers and analysts have become more efficiency focused. Kobe is really the last remaining star of that era and his mindset is now almost anachronistic.[/QUOTE]
Ok when I take this thread in context with your other posts it looks like you are saying that kobe is better than lbj and wade because he would shoot a full-court heave and they wouldnt, am I correct?

[QUOTE=STATUTORY]:roll: :roll: :applause:

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kazaam ni99a[/QUOTE]
A genie is just a royals toy.

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Dude had 26,395 points in his career. Averages of 21/6/5 (peak of 29/9/8). Was perennial all NBA team member (5 first team defense, 3 first team, bunch of 2nd team). 13 time all star. And 8 championships.

And like Kobe, he wasn't a Lebron/Wade-esque shooting stats whore :lol

You think maybe you're showing your bias here? You see the double standard?[/QUOTE]


hmmm might have something to do with Kobe's 12 all defensive selections, 14 all NBA selections, 10x first team.

and many other numerous things which Kobe was better at, not to mention Kobe is a consencus top 10 player of all time...

[url]http://www.basesandbaskets.com/2012/12/greatest-nba-players-of-all-time.html[/url]


[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/Top-10-players-in-NBA-history#tab=photo-title=Oscar+Robertson+%25281960-74%2529&photo=30219328[/url]


[url]http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articles/basketball/top-10-nba-players-of-all-time.html[/url]


[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/358840-top-ten-nba-players-of-all-time[/url]


how many of those have Hondo listed? How many have Kobe listed?


Keep showing your ignorance

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]How about you go watch a video of 60's basketball. You should be ashamed if yourself.[/QUOTE]
He was talking about level of competition being high because of contraction, not how clumsy some players looked back then. Please keep up deuce jigahoe