prime dirk vs current durant?

Could the poster that believes Dirk has "winning blood" and apparently Durant doesn't, tell me which playoff series Durant lost that he was a decided favorite in? Christ, he's 25 years old and already has a trip to the Finals (losing to LeBron at his peak), and a trip to the WCF losing to Dirk in "God Mode" with a savvy, veteran supporting cast playing very well. Yes, I would argue the 2011 Thunder had more talent than the 2011 Mavericks, but that talent was a bunch of 21-22 year olds getting their fist taste of playoff basketball past the 1st round.


Granted, I guess if you say you're going by current Durant vs. prime Dirk, I guess Dirk eventually won a title in his prime and showed he had that "winning blood", but he had that "winning blood" before winning a ring and so does Durant. To argue otherwise is just stupid. If your team is winning 50 or 55+ games and making deep playoff runs year in and year out, you've got "winning blood".

[QUOTE=moe94]Cosigning "winning blood" and "killer instinct" as a basis for argument? Really?:coleman:[/QUOTE]

If you didn't get it, go back to school Peter Griffin.

[QUOTE=KG215]Could the poster that believes Dirk has "winning blood" and apparently Durant doesn't, tell me which playoff series Durant lost that he was a decided favorite in? Christ, he's 25 years old and already has a trip to the Finals (losing to LeBron at his peak), and a trip to the WCF losing to Dirk in "God Mode" with a savvy, veteran supporting cast playing very well. Yes, I would argue the 2011 Thunder had more talent than the 2011 Mavericks, but that talent was a bunch of 21-22 year olds getting their fist taste of playoff basketball past the 1st round.


Granted, I guess if you say you're going by current Durant vs. prime Dirk, I guess Dirk eventually won a title in his prime and showed he had that "winning blood", but he had that "winning blood" before winning a ring and so does Durant. To argue otherwise is just stupid. If your team is winning 50 or 55+ games and making deep playoff runs year in and year out, you've got "winning blood".[/QUOTE]


a simple blood test between the two should clear this right up :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=branslowski]If you didn't get it, go back to school Peter Griffin.[/QUOTE]

That garbage will never go over anyone's head. The fact that you think it's a valid argument is hilarious, however.

[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]a simple blood test between the two should clear this right up :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]


Is it transferable? Can we cut Dirk during their next game and have Durant rub up against him? Taint himself with that "winning blood".

[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]:cheers:

'losing blood' get it..? :yaohappy:


losing blood is never a good thing[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=KG215]Could the poster that believes Dirk has "winning blood" and apparently Durant doesn't, tell me which playoff series Durant lost that he was a decided favorite in? Christ, he's 25 years old and already has a trip to the Finals (losing to LeBron at his peak), and a trip to the WCF losing to Dirk in "God Mode" with a savvy, veteran supporting cast playing very well. Yes, I would argue the 2011 Thunder had more talent than the 2011 Mavericks, but that talent was a bunch of 21-22 year olds getting their fist taste of playoff basketball past the 1st round.


Granted, I guess if you say you're going by current Durant vs. prime Dirk, I guess Dirk eventually won a title in his prime and showed he had that "winning blood", but he had that "winning blood" before winning a ring and so does Durant. To argue otherwise is just stupid. If your team is winning 50 or 55+ games and making deep playoff runs year in and year out, you've got "winning blood".[/QUOTE]

I hate to speak for Brans, but I'll try. Hopefully he clears it up.

I think what he is saying...is that currently Durant's numbers perhaps over-state his actual impact. And I agree with that. I don't think Durant does things to his teams offense or the opposing defense the way prime Dirk was able to do.

I posted both of their impacts on offense on/off in both the regular season and playoffs...and it's clear that dirk improves it significantly more. Now, I don't want to say that means I think Durant isn't great or close to Dirk...I definitely think he is.

But Durant just has to prove it. I'm not even a big "title" guy because it's such a team thing. Like you said...Dirk was good enough to win a title from about 02 or 03 on...he just didn't have the right team and right circumstances. However, he did win...and he won with less than what Durant has been working with now for a few years...

So until Durant wins...or at least starts making that offensive impact that Dirk did...I think we have to take prime Dirk over current Durant

[QUOTE=KG215]Could the poster that believes Dirk has "winning blood" and apparently Durant doesn't, tell me which playoff series Durant lost that he was a decided favorite in? Christ, he's 25 years old and already has a trip to the Finals (losing to LeBron at his peak), and a trip to the WCF losing to Dirk in "God Mode" with a savvy, veteran supporting cast playing very well. Yes, I would argue the 2011 Thunder had more talent than the 2011 Mavericks, but that talent was a bunch of 21-22 year olds getting their fist taste of playoff basketball past the 1st round.


Granted, I guess if you say you're going by current Durant vs. prime Dirk, I guess Dirk eventually won a title in his prime and showed he had that "winning blood", but he had that "winning blood" before winning a ring and so does Durant. To argue otherwise is just stupid. If your team is winning 50 or 55+ games and making deep playoff runs year in and year out, you've got "winning blood".[/QUOTE]

Nothing in my post was a diss towards Durant. You also don't actually disagree with my choosing of Dirk. I think Dirk is more of a winner and posses better intangibles ESPECIALLY in 4th quarters inwhich I alluded to.

No one is saying Durant can't win. I just prefer Dirk...But if you wanna just nitpick words to argue over because you still salty over previous ISH encounters between us, then be my guess, get mad. I know I'm not rightnow.:lol

[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]a simple blood test between the two should clear this right up :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Winning blood has a nice zing to it actually.....Tis be da new word.:bowdown:

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I'll take Durant.

I like both players but you have more options with Durant on you're team.

Dirk has never been considered top 2 overall in the league

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]I'll take Durant.

I like both players but you have more options with Durant on you're team.

Dirk has never been considered top 2 overall in the league[/QUOTE]

This just isn't true on either front...
People definitely rank Dirk as one of the 2 best players in the 2011 season.

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]I'll take Durant.

I like both players but you have more options with Durant on you're team.

Dirk has never been considered [B]top 2 overall in the league[/B][/QUOTE]

Alot of people think Paul George is going to challenge Durant for the #2 spot this season tho.

And i agree with Dmavs Dirks 11 season he was one of the best that year

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]This just isn't true on either front...
People definitely rank Dirk as one of the 2 best players in the 2011 season.[/QUOTE]

That was only 1 season though and even then he wasn't the 2nd best in the league

If I had to pick one or the other to be my main guy I would go with Durant but that's just my opinion.

Everything has already been stated in the thread, hate I joined the convo late

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]That was only 1 season though and even then he wasn't the 2nd best in the league

If I had to pick one or the other to be my main guy I would go with Durant but that's just my opinion.

Everything has already been stated in the thread, hate I joined the convo late[/QUOTE]

I know he wasn't 2nd best in 2011

He was the BEST...:pimp:

[QUOTE=Black and White][B]Alot of people think Paul George is going to challenge Durant for the #2 spot this season tho.[/B]

And i agree with Dmavs Dirks 11 season he was one of the best that year[/QUOTE]

Challenging and taking it is 2 different things.

I'm not saying Dirk wasn't one of the best that season but I don't feel like he was the 2nd best in the league.

People just "overrating" Dirk cause of that playoff run and cause he beat the heavily favored Heat. ( Not taking anything from Dirk and the Mavs)

[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]Challenging and taking it is 2 different things.

I'm not saying Dirk wasn't one of the best that season but I don't feel like he was the 2nd best in the league.

People just "overrating" Dirk cause of that playoff run and cause he beat the heavily favored Heat. ( Not taking anything from Dirk and the Mavs)[/QUOTE]

Yep i agree with you and see your point, if you take out Dirks playoff run LeBron and Durant were 1 and 2.