Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread

Cooper's college averages look relatively similar to his senior year at Montverde four games in:

- 16.3 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 4.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 1.8 bpg, 2.5 topg
- 44.2% FG, 22.2% 3PT, 55.9% 2PT, 48.1% eFG, 78.9% FT, 53.3% TS
- +12.9 BPM (+4.8 OBPM; +8.1 DBPM)

He's leading the team in all five of the major counting stats. It's just his three-point shooting letting him down so far. Adjust it to 39% 3PT and his scoring goes up to 18.6 ppg and 61.5% TS.

I've been impressed with the defensive rebounding. Flagg is giving me Shawn Marion/Gerald Wallace vibes as a strong rebounder relative to his position. Marion was getting 8-11 rebounds in his prime regardless of whether he was the SF or PF. It's that quick two-footed leaping and strong length/reach; those qualities also make for strong finishing in the paint.

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I've been impressed with the defensive rebounding. Flagg is giving me [B]Shawn Marion/Gerald Wallace vibes[/B] as a strong rebounder relative to his position. Marion was getting 8-11 rebounds in his prime regardless of whether he was the SF or PF. It's that quick two-footed leaping and strong length/reach; those qualities also make for strong finishing in the paint.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely this. I could see him hitting 20ppg in his prime, ala Ron Artest, but he's not polished enough with his handle/off-dribble game to be a lead scorer. Both of the guys you mention have a couple of NBA 1st team type years when you look at impact stats like adjusted On/Off. The problem is that type of player has to play hard and athletic to make their impact...how long can they do that? Gerald Wallace was making a huge impact, but hurting himself and others. Injuries started getting to Marion in his prime too.

[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14957972]Absolutely this. I could see him hitting 20ppg in his prime, ala Ron Artest, but he's not polished enough with his handle/off-dribble game to be a lead scorer. Both of the guys you mention have a couple of NBA 1st team type years when you look at impact stats like adjusted On/Off. The problem is that type of player has to play hard and athletic to make their impact...how long can they do that? Gerald Wallace was making a huge impact, but hurting himself and others. Injuries started getting to Marion in his prime too.[/QUOTE]

Facts. The upside hinges on the ball handling and shooting.

I think his handle is fine, especially for his age. Problem is that in college the lane is congested so he doesn't have a lot of space to operate.

Big game matchup tonight vs Arizona

Game starts soon.

He got it done this time.

:applause:

Put on a clinic against a top team in Arizona

Dominated on both sides of the ball, looking like a Caucasian Kevin Garnett out there :bowdown:

My Nets just lost again :rockon:

I see us being a bottom 3 team alongside Washington and Utah which gives us a 14% chance of the number 1 pick

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Let's take Brandon Ingram and make him worse in every way = Cooper Flagg

[QUOTE=3ba11;14958835]Let's take Brandon Ingram and make him worse in every way = Cooper Flagg[/QUOTE]

Lol what? Other than being the same height, they have almost no similarities as players.

[QUOTE=Manny98;14958800]Put on a clinic against a top team in Arizona

Dominated on both sides of the ball, looking like a Caucasian Kevin Garnett out there :bowdown:[/QUOTE]

He plays more like a smaller AD to me than KG.

The defensive, and overall, instincts for a 17 year old is pretty special.

Good 2nd half after a slow start. Struggled to finish after contact which is typical at 17. Good activity on defense.

As usual 3ball is clueless :lol

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Lol what? Other than being the same height,

[B]they have almost no similarities as players[/B].


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It only seems that way because Ingram does everything a lot better.

Ingram's handle is far superior.. He's quicker... he's more athletic and better shooter... Better playmaker too... Simply a better talent and I remember him tracking very high when he was at Kentucky - he was considered a prodigal talent and almost a 2nd coming of AD...

Otoh, Flagg is mostly hype - he can't beat defenders via blow-by and needs too many counters.. Unless his jumper is infact Larry Bird, feel free to bookmark this post... I wish you guys would've bookmarked all my posts about ingram, Cade, Wemby and others.. Sure I was wrong about curry, but that's why I consider him to be so great.. Btw, you guys were all wrong about Ingram, but you don't remember this.. Btw, Flagg has baby hands, while Bird had big-man hands, so I doubt their jumpers are similar..
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[QUOTE=tontoz;14958856]Good 2nd half after a slow start. Struggled to finish after contact which is typical at 17. Good activity on defense.

As usual 3ball is clueless :lol[/QUOTE]


you guys were all wrong about Ingram in 2019 - I was the only one that thought he was an all-star talent when he was playing alongside Lebron, while you guys thought he wasn't enough help and thought Kuzma was better.