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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15013104]Your dream for your daughter would be to grow up and serve someone like you who believes all women are insane bipolar crazy? :oldlol:
You are the problem. Not them.[/QUOTE]
Yea god forbid someone suggest that women might be crazy. :oldlol:
Definitely means you're a sexist pig.
Right, if you guys believe all women are crazy, then you should be fine not being married :confusedshrug:
What am I missing here? :oldlol:
You guys don't want marriage, you want to run around fcking pornstars like your idol Trump, and you know what, there is nothing wrong with that! But you need to own it instead of pointing at women for not being married.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15012802]@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".
Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine, another low IQ person who wants to be in charge and craves power over others.
Also, the average person, the majority, as they get older, the more they care about being happy, and less about success, material things that they can't take with them after they died. They do not give less of a shit about being happy.
You might be a psycho.
Focus on "material things" drops off yes, which is different than happiness. Children care about personal happiness the most, then as you age you start to prioritize other things. Political stances start to manifest in your 30s, then family and relationships after, getting involve with your local community, charity work, etc.
Your take is actually the low IQ one that lacks depth in the human psyche.
Also happiness in itself is subjective as hell. All studies and polls around it are questionable. There is no correct way to gauge it.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15013254]Also happiness in itself is subjective as hell. All studies and polls around it are questionable. There is no correct way to gauge it.[/QUOTE]
Pretty true. I think you have to find a balance. Most people deal with hardship at some point in their life. Having family or people that care about you to help you is huge. There's almost no consistently sad person I've met more in my life than an elderly man or woman that recently lost their spouse of 40 or 50 years. And if they don't have sons or daughters or grandkids to help me through it they're extremely depressed.
I'm a big balance person and I try not to lean too far to one side. Hell, the most natural thing you can consume (water) can kill you if you have too much of it. So too much of anything can have negative effects. Humans define themselves through joy and misery and a truly joyful person won't understand the meaning or value of happiness unless they do have sadness or misery in their life somewhat. It makes you respect both sides.
I remember when my ex-wife was confused why I wanted "alone" time because in the beginning she was clingy to me. She was almost offended that I didn't want to spend as much time as I could with her. The best way I explained it is, "When I'm with you I cherish my time with you and enjoy it. Being with you makes me also in turn look forward to my alone time. And when I'm alone I will miss you, but in the same thought I appreciate being alone in the moment while looking forward to spending time with you. It's an on-going cycle.
Happiness is subjective, but you have to understand sadness and misery to have respect and appreciation for it.
Imagine if we lived forever or hundreds of years? We wouldn't get anything done. People would become even more complacent than they do now because they figure "Well I have hundreds of years to do whatever I want." and don't get me wrong people like that already exist, but I think it would be a bigger issue. There wouldn't be an urgency.
The fact that we don't have infinite time is a key component to why we find purpose in our life or meaning. Our time is finite. And through that finite time people try to search for happiness very subjectively to what they think will make them happy.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15013224]Right, if you guys believe all women are crazy, then you should be fine not being married :confusedshrug:
What am I missing here? :oldlol:
You guys don't want marriage, you want to run around fcking pornstars like your idol Trump, and you know what, there is nothing wrong with that! But you need to own it instead of pointing at women for not being married.[/QUOTE]
Every immoral behavior you can think of is celebrated by the Left is what you are missing.
Conservatives are not going to be perfect like Jesus... but we strive to be more conservative and don't celebrate our liberal tendencies like the left does.
There is something wrong with watching porn and hooking up with a bunch of women, regardless if it's the standard of society. There should be a sense of shame in that.
There is an element of Toxic Masculinity that should be addressed..... But the Left doesn't call out the Toxic Behaviors of women (unless they're conservative).
That's what you are missing.
The woke element of society embraces every sinful behavior you can think of. Where is the Shame?
Liberalism at it's core is simply a rebellion against the Traditional Conservative Values.... that's all it is.
And if we point out these shameful behaviors... you're now racist, sexist, or hateful.
[video=youtube;P6C45q5he2A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6C45q5he2A[/video]
[QUOTE=Meticode;15013275]Pretty true. I think you have to find a balance. Most people deal with hardship at some point in their life. Having family or people that care about you to help you is huge. There's almost no consistently sad person I've met more in my life than an elderly man or woman that recently lost their spouse of 40 or 50 years. And if they don't have sons or daughters or grandkids to help me through it they're extremely depressed.
I'm a big balance person and I try not to lean too far to one side. Hell, the most natural thing you can consume (water) can kill you if you have too much of it. So too much of anything can have negative effects. Humans define themselves through joy and misery and a truly joyful person won't understand the meaning or value of happiness unless they do have sadness or misery in their life somewhat. It makes you respect both sides.
I remember when my ex-wife was confused why I wanted "alone" time because in the beginning she was clingy to me. She was almost offended that I didn't want to spend as much time as I could with her. The best way I explained it is, "When I'm with you I cherish my time with you and enjoy it. Being with you makes me also in turn look forward to my alone time. And when I'm alone I will miss you, but in the same thought I appreciate being alone in the moment while looking forward to spending time with you. It's an on-going cycle.
Happiness is subjective, but you have to understand sadness and misery to have respect and appreciation for it.
Imagine if we lived forever or hundreds of years? We wouldn't get anything done. People would become even more complacent than they do now because they figure "Well I have hundreds of years to do whatever I want." and don't get me wrong people like that already exist, but I think it would be a bigger issue. There wouldn't be an urgency.
The fact that we don't have infinite time is a key component to why we find purpose in our life or meaning. Our time is finite. And through that finite time people try to search for happiness very subjectively to what they think will make them happy.[/QUOTE]
True stuff. Need the negative to appreciate the positive. yin yang
I think what were are seeing a lot of in today's society that many are unaware of, is comfort in misery. A lot of people go to a miserable place every day because it is what is comfortable to them. A lot of people spend their day venting politics all day and it doesn't make them happy, it does the opposite, it makes them angry. But they continue to do it day after day because it is what has become normal to their brain. I feel like the internet makes our lives much easier overall, but it is also a never ending source of depression. Humans tend to focus on the bad much more than the good. How many threads on this forum are celebrating something happy? Not many in comparison to the threads whining about the world.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15013334]
Conservatives are not going to be perfect like Jesus... [/QUOTE]
No because then they would be "woke". Jesus was as woke as it gets. And loved all, even sinners. If fact that is what he died for, all the sinners out there. You included. If you believe that wokeness is about embracing sin? You are being dishonest. More about forgiveness. Don't worry you'll figure it out on your judgement day.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15013371]No because then they would be "woke". Jesus was as woke as it gets. And loved all, even sinners. If fact that is what he died for, all the sinners out there. You included. If you believe that wokeness is about embracing sin? You are being dishonest. More about forgiveness. Don't worry you'll figure it out on your judgement day.[/QUOTE]
That’s your own misconception of Conservatives and Christianity.
Maybe your beef is with Alt. Right
Jesus hated sin…. And would ask for you to repent.
He wouldn’t encourage you to keep doing what you’re doing, and he certainly wouldn’t be cool with abortion.
Try reading the Scriptures sometime… Jesus would want you do that.
Start with Timothy 2:9 to 2:15 (That’s New Testament btw)
Jesus was extremely left leaning. He was the original progressive. He was definitely "woke".
The Bible itself does not address abortion, which is an insanely grey topic and not black and white at all. Just like immigration is. Just like gun control is. Just like the economy is. None of these things are a flat out "right or wrong" and all of them are very complex. I wish more people understood that instead of just blanket throwing "THAT'S BAD!" at things. On abortion though, we at least know that Jesus would be forgiving of it.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15013375]Try reading the Scriptures sometime… Jesus would want you do that.
Start with Timothy 2:9 to 2:15 (That’s New Testament btw)[/QUOTE]
So you believe that the Bible wants you to oppress women? That was not how Jesus himself approached women.
[url]https://www.franciscanmedia.org/st-anthony-messenger/jesus-extraordinary-treatment-of-women/[/url]
Also you are taking that out of context to some degree. Women are to submit to Men and Men are to submit to God. Meaning women should not marry porn addicted self absorbed godless dumb asses which is a huge part of the issue in today's marriage. You just want a woman to submit to you without you having to submit yourself.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15013378]Jesus was extremely left leaning. He was the original progressive. He was definitely "woke".[/QUOTE]
He wouldn’t promote any of the shit the woke left promotes… zero.
Not to mention that wokeness strongly opposes Christianity in the first place.
The message coming from the left is do not repent.
Man, you need to a bible study if you think Jesus was cool with any of the shit going on today.
And yes, life begins at conception, plenty of stories about babies in the womb.
Disagree completely, he would be challenging the norms today just like he did then. He would absolutely be for open borders, no human owns land. He would not want everyone carrying AR15s around, he would be against guns in general. On abortion, I personally feel it is a case by case issue. Sometimes it is warranted sometimes not. Most of the time it does not prevent life but rather delays it for a better time.