Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[quote=DaniloGallinari]HAHA! Wilt and other journalists talking about fables regarding Wilt's feats and strengths is considered hard proof now?
He ran 4.4 back then, so if we could do it again today, it would probably come out to 4.55+. His standing vert was around 23-26 inches, which isn't bad at all for a tall person, and his running vert might have hit 30.
I don't understand you internet fanboys. You disgust me. You go so far as to make up stupid stories about this guy. It's irritating and nobody actually takes you seriously.[/quote]
In other words, the NCAA changed the FT shooting rules for no apparent reason. :applause:
What would be a more accurate assessment of Chamberlain's physical prowess in your opinion?
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[QUOTE]Maybe Wilt's vertical was not 48" as he himself claimed. But these clowns that post verticals of 24" or even 30-32" are being ridiculous. The man was a high-jump champ, as well as a long jumper and triple jumper. He was arguably the greatest athlete of all-time for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]
Indeed the fact that he could extend himself going up beit for a rebound or a slam dunk would be a factor as well. His wingspan also I believe was longer than reported by most at 7'6.
It may, however, be time to quit posting on Chamberlain any longer as none of the detractors will ever give him proper due.
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[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]:roll: When he feels Wilt's legacy is threatened in any way(even Wilt's sex life :wtf: ), he resorts to spamming the board with irrelevant crap. It's second nature to him.[/QUOTE]
replace the name "Wilt" with "Shaq", and that's pretty much second nature to ShaqAttack3234:roll: :lol
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[QUOTE=PHILA]Indeed the fact that he could extend himself going up beit for a rebound or a slam dunk would be a factor as well. His wingspan also I believe was longer than reported by most at 7'6.
[B]It may, however, be time to quit posting on Chamberlain any longer as none of the detractors will ever give him proper due[/B].[/QUOTE]
I have been tempted. However, I can only speak for myself here...I am nearly 56 years old...I SAW Chamberlain play. And I WITNESSED many of his incredible feats.
I find it fascinating, that so many here, that did NOT see Chamberlain play...can make ridiculous comments about him. Statements like he faced 6-6 wimpy white centers. Or that he merely dunked on those helpless white centers. Or that he was a "loser", or a "choker", or a "failure" (yet Olajuwon, who also only played on two title teams, and was involved in EIGHT first round playoff exits is BETTER?) They say that Russell "owned" Wilt. Or they claim that he was far from the mythical athlete that has been written about him since the 50's. I have even read some "expert" opinions that say that Wilt would be a "poor-man's Samuel Dalembert" in TODAY's NBA...despite the fact that Chamberlain was a MUCH better athlete than ANYONE playing in today's NBA.
If posters have an agenda to diminish Chamberlain's career, then I will continue to post the real truth. Whether the other poster's want to believe it, or not.
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[QUOTE=DaniloGallinari]HAHA! Wilt and other journalists talking about fables regarding Wilt's feats and strengths is considered hard proof now?
He ran 4.4 back then, so if we could do it again today, it would probably come out to 4.55+. His standing vert was around 23-26 inches, which isn't bad at all for a tall person, and his running vert might have hit 30.
I don't understand you internet fanboys. You disgust me. You go so far as to make up stupid stories about this guy. It's irritating and nobody actually takes you seriously.[/QUOTE]
Haha... you're a Danillo Gallinari fan...
Sorry. :hammerhead:
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From what I've seen.. Tyson Chandler is a comparable athlete to a young Wilt imo.
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[QUOTE=Knick Killer]masterdurant24 loves c0ck[/QUOTE]
Hey, I'm from H-Town, I've never heard of a Danilo Gallinari fan...
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[QUOTE=jlauber]I have been tempted. However, I can only speak for myself here...I am nearly 56 years old...I SAW Chamberlain play. And I WITNESSED many of his incredible feats.
I find it fascinating, that so many here, that did NOT see Chamberlain play...can make ridiculous comments about him. Statements like he faced 6-6 wimpy white centers. Or that he merely dunked on those helpless white centers. Or that he was a "loser", or a "choker", or a "failure" (yet Olajuwon, who also only played on two title teams, and was involved in EIGHT first round playoff exits is BETTER?) They say that Russell "owned" Wilt. Or they claim that he was far from the mythical athlete that has been written about him since the 50's. I have even read some "expert" opinions that say that Wilt would be a "poor-man's Samuel Dalembert" in TODAY's NBA...despite the fact that Chamberlain was a MUCH better athlete than ANYONE playing in today's NBA.
If posters have an agenda to diminish Chamberlain's career, then I will continue to post the real truth. Whether the other poster's want to believe it, or not.[/QUOTE]
That's the spirit:applause:
You might look into setting up a vintage website with some othe experienced basketball fans, collect all sources put them into the site(google site is a very good choice by the way)...
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[QUOTE=ImmortalD24]From what I've seen.. Tyson Chandler is a comparable athlete to a young Wilt imo.[/QUOTE]
How many scoring, rebounding, FG%, and assist titles has Chandler won? How many high-jump championships? How many legitimate offers for heavy-weight boxing title bouts? How many NFL coaches proclaimed that he could be an All-Pro? How many stories have been written which credit him for being one of the strongest men in the world? Did he participate in the high-jump, long-jump, triple-jump, 4x100, 440, 880, and shot-put in college? How many RULES were put in place in a futile attempt to curtail his overall dominance? And does he hold some 130+ NBA records?
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[QUOTE=jlauber]How many scoring, rebounding, FG%, and assist titles has Chandler won? How many high-jump championships? How many legitimate offers for heavy-weight boxing title bouts? How many NFL coaches proclaimed that he could be an All-Pro? How many stories have been written which credit him for being one of the strongest men in the world? Did he participate in the high-jump, long-jump, triple-jump, 4x100, 440, 880, and shot-put in college? How many RULES were put in place in a futile attempt to curtail his overall dominance? And does he hold some 130+ NBA records?[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Psileas]His standing vert was [B]not [/B]23-26 inches. At least, you could read what I wrote a little before instead of repeating the same story.
Again, play at 1:50:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt13a6b_uA[/url]
This is not a 23-26 inch vertical jump, else his head should be 9-12 inches from the basket, which isn't the case. And it's a standing jump.
A 24-inch vertical for a male athlete, standing or not, would not be worthy of mentioning. Not now, not 100 years ago, not 2,000 years ago. The average male at an athlete's age can jump about 20 inches, without real training. What do you think the average male could jump in the 60's that would make 24 look impressive? Like 12 inches? And 8 for females?[/QUOTE]
Actually by looking at flight time (the most accurate way to determine vertical leaps from footage), his jump there is 21-22 inches (flight time = .65s - .68s). This assumes no issues with playback, and if anything the footage tends to be a fraction of a second slower. He seems to be going all out there too. Now I know Wilt is in his older days there (though he did retain a lot of his athleticism), but 25-26 inches still sounds about right for his standing vert in his younger days. Based on everything else I've said in the thread, I still see no evidence of him having a max vertical over 30-33 inches, and a standing vertical over 25-27 inches. This is still excellent for a man his size.
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This dunk below coming after he tore his patella tendon (not far off what Greg Oden has suffered in recent years) rehabbing his knee and working hard to come back from what was a career threatening injury in a matter of a few months.
A casual dunk attempt where he nearly bangs his head on the backboard, this in his mid 30's with an artificially repaired knee tendon.
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50+ inches is just as crazy as the 20 or 24 inch claims. As to note below, he had a tremendous reach and could really extend himself.
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Fatal9]Actually by looking at flight time (the most accurate way to determine vertical leaps from footage), his jump there is 21-22 inches (flight time = .65s - .68s). This assumes no issues with playback, and if anything the footage tends to be a fraction of a second slower. He seems to be going all out there too. Now I know Wilt is in his older days there (though he did retain a lot of his athleticism), but 25-26 inches still sounds about right for his standing vert in his younger days. Based on everything else I've said in the thread, I still see no evidence of him having a max vertical over 30-33 inches, and a standing vertical over 25-27 inches. This is still excellent for a man his size.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure about the flight time of .65-.68 sec? What program did you use?
Wilt's standing reach was 9'6. 22 inches would mean that his hand should be at 11'4, which is 2 inches below the top of the white square. Also that his head is 1 foot 1 inch below the rim and way below the middle of the net (which is 15-18 inches long, as written at [url]http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_1.html?nav=ArticleList)[/url].
Check the dunk at [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849_WdqJ8o8#t=3m38s[/url]
It's one of Wilt's closest to the rim plays seen from relatively close and Wilt's head looks way above the middle of the net, which, if true, should give him clearly above 27 inches (corresponding to the height of the middle of a typical net). His hand also looks to be above the top of the square, although it's tougher to judge than the head.
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Well, if 32" is good enough for a 7-1 man with a 7-8 wing-span to dunk on a 12 ft, rim with a basketball that has a diameter of 10"...or if is good enough to cause the powers-that-be to outlaw the dunking of FTs...or if it is good enough to allow that said player to touch the top of the backboard...or win a high-jump championship, or long-jump over 22 ft., or to block 25 shots in a game, or over 10 a game over the course of a full-season, or to grab 41 rebounds out of a total of 134 in a '67 playoff game against Russell...or to win multiple rebound titles, while so few other seven-footers have even won one...
then I will accept that Wilt had a 32" vertical leap.