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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/15/22656377/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-eric-paschall-draymond-green-nba-steph-curry-donovan-mitchell[/url]
[QUOTE][I]In Utah, Paschall might finally get opportunity to play the ‘Draymond Role’[/I]
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but Draymond plays d
[QUOTE]He is not, however, all that comparable to 6x All-Defensive team and former DPOY Draymond Green, who is a generational defensive talent. That’s not a knock on Paschall, who is a more than capable utility defender who should be a significant upgrade to the Jazz defense over Juwan Morgan or Georges Niang.
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a guy that was benched for not playing D is better than guys taht have actually shown they can play D?
[QUOTE]With the Jazz, Paschall will likely always share the floor with at least one of Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley, Joe Ingles, or Jordan Clarkson. The combination of gravity created by Utah’s elite-shooting guards, and the lob threats posed by Rudy Gobert and Hassan Whiteside will create the perfect eco-system for Paschall to feast on defenses the way Draymond does.
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elite?
[QUOTE]But we know Paschall’s a capable defender and passer. He’s comfortable in the pick & roll as both the ball-handler and screener. He’s not a great shooter, but should get plenty of opportunity to develop his shot in Quin Snyder’s “shoot the ****ing ball” offense. And unless Rudy Gay at 35, is still good enough to command the bulk of the backup power forward minutes, Paschall should get the opportunity to play alongside a heliocentric guard and a traditional lob-threat big.
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he was benched because of D. How do we know he's capable exactly?
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/9/15/22673305/opportunity-abounds-for-the-utah-jazz-in-scoring-volume[/url]
[QUOTE]On one hand, why shouldn’t they be. They returned all of their core pieces and added several around the edges to fill versatility and defensive needs.
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because of COTY and Clarkson?
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/15/utah-jazz-snags-promising-young-prospect/[/url]
[QUOTE]Seeing that insiders seem to believe Derrick Alston Jr.’s deal is just of the Exhibit 10 variety, there’s no telling if he’ll be on the Jazz roster when opening day arrives. In other words, all he has at this juncture is a training camp invite.
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almost guaranteed he won't unless he gets the 2nd two way which looks like it may be up for grabs in camp for the first time. Hello Stars!
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/15/utah-jazz-best-trade-denver-nuggets/[/url]
[QUOTE]Ironically, the Nuggets also [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2707115-donovan-mitchell-picked-no-13-in-nba-draft-nuggets-to-trade-him-to-jazz"]drafted Donovan Mitchell and traded him to the Jazz[/URL] on draft night. [URL="http://www.thejnotes.com/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] fans owe the Denver Nuggets a debt of gratitude for almost single-handedly building the foundation of this current iteration of their team. However, the Jazz did part with Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon in that exchange: a small price to pay, to be sure, but Lyles has had a considerably more successful NBA career than Erick Green.
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more importantly Gobert has carried the franchise for almost 7 years while the best player in franchise history hasn't
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[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/09/14/utah-jazz-mitchell-narrative-change/[/url]
[QUOTE]In a recent interview with [URL="https://theathletic.com/2822106/2021/09/13/this-is-our-time-right-here-donovan-mitchell-on-jazz-bouncing-back-the-bright-side-of-injury-education-and-more/?source=rss"]The Athletic (subscription required)[/URL], Mitchell talked about his journey with his ankle injury and how difficult it became to play like his normal self in the postseason. He noted how he was healthy now and ready to make a run to the NBA Finals – one that he believed the team should’ve made last season before injuries took their toll on the team in the postseason.
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Mitchell team healthy or Jazz doctors and trainers healthy?
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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Jazz waived Jarrell Brantley, which will cost them about $84K after he picked up the qualifying offer this summer[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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should have just done this earlier so he could catch on with someone else. Good luck to him. He could have helped them sadly
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz and Jarrell Brantley worked together in what was an amicable parting of ways, league sources tell The Athletic. According to sources, Brantley has a euroleague job lined up in the seven figure guaranteed range. Gives him security and the chance to play[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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good for him. He very well might end up being one of the best players over there. He's got game
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[QUOTE]Orazio Cauchi: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Forward Jarrell Brantley, who was waived by the Utah Jazz, is close to signing a deal with Euroleague side UNICS Kazan,[/URL] according to a source. Brantley was the 50th pick in the 2019 NBA Draft. More on @BasketNews_com
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/paxer89"]Twitter paxer89[/URL]
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Euroleague! :applause:
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468179/jazz-waive-jarrell-brantley/[/url]
[QUOTE]During the offseason, the Jazz signed Rudy Gay and traded for forward Eric Paschall which created a numbers crunch behind Bojan Bogdanovic and Royce O’Neale.
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Lost Niang, Ersan, Morgan so not really
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468148/34-jazz-living-in-the-luxury-tax/[/url]
[QUOTE]For example, if a team is $0-5 million over the tax, the luxury tax is a $1.50 penalty for each dollar. That climbs to $1.75 between $5-10 million, and so on. Additionally, there’s a tax for teams that repeatedly find themselves above the tax.
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which right now it appears the Jazz will likely pay at some point. They should have got under the tax last year for that reason. Were too close not to
[QUOTE][B]Jordan Clarkson – $12.4 million = $30.1 million in savings[/B][/QUOTE]
and a much better team besides!
[QUOTE]While each player has proven to be a critical piece of the team’s success, if the Jazz find themselves dramatically underperforming expectations or if any one of Eric Paschall, Rudy Gay, Trent Forrest, or Jared Butler find themselves deserving of increased rotation minutes off the bench, the Jazz could move one of Bogdanovic, Ingles, Clarkson, or O’Neale resulting in significant savings.
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what is underperforming if COTY loves you though?
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468146/shaq-jazz-biggest-threat-to-lakers-in-west/[/url]
[QUOTE][I]SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – [/I]Shaquille O’Neal turned some heads during his appearance on ESPN’s First Take with Stephen A. Smith. Shaq told Smith that the Utah Jazz were the biggest threat to the Los Angeles Lakers championship hopes in the West this upcoming season.
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Should be Suns and Jazz. I see Portland as the darkhorse. Lakers time has come and gone
[QUOTE]“That’s it,” Mitchell said. “I’ve been hearing that since my rookie year. You know, I’m just gonna get better and do what I do.”
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wish you'd do things you don't do like play d and pass the ball
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/9/17/22666215/utah-jazz-insiders-newsletter-offseason-coaching-additions-erdem-can-irv-roland[/url]
[QUOTE]Throughout his career, which also includes individual training, Roland’s calling card has been his one-on-one development with players like Kevin Durant, Trae Young and James Harden. ESPN once called Roland [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-64CYEK1q54"]Harden’s secret weapon[/URL].
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sounds like they got a good one maybe?
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2021/9/16/22678420/utah-jazz-waive-jarrell-brantley-nba-roster[/url]
[QUOTE]Brantley is an interesting prospect because he brings great physical tools and athleticism at the 4-spot. Brantley has a good handle that he combines with great strength and athleticism that he showed off in the G-League. That talent hasn’t really translated to NBA games and the Jazz appear ready to cut their losses and move on to different prospects.
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actually it has translated in the few chances he got. Too bad about COTY
[QUOTE]It’s a good reminder that making it in the league is hard and time is short. Wherever Brantley goes, hopefully he gets a chance to play and show what he can do. The things he’ll have to do is cut down on the turnovers and become more consistent with his shooting. If he can do those things I can definitely see him find a place in the league.
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a better reminder that the NBA isn't the only place willing to pay
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I like what the Jazz have done with restocking their young prospects. Two years ago, the young talent on the team (Outside of Mitchell) was:
Brantley, Oni, Wright-Foreman, Bradley, Tucker, Morgan.
Today, the young talent is:
Butler, Azubuike, Paschall, Oni, Hughes, Forrest.
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all those mentioned first are better than Hughes. Remains to be seen how good any of those other guys are. Forrest looks the best but he needs to be able to hit open shots at at least a decent rate. Bradley better than Udoka until proven otherwise. Morgan and Brantley better than Paschall until proven otherwise. Brantley better than Oni. Tucker probably was too. Butler might suck
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I'm way happy for him getting that kind of money and a chance to play. He's a hard worker and I hope they give him a SL invite in a year or 2 to see if/how he's improved.
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if he's smart he's done with Utah
[QUOTE]Dante close to signing a 3 year $15 million non guaranteed deal with Houston. Good for him. Sounds reasonable. He looked great in the Olympics. Hope he can stay healthy but .....[/QUOTE]
looked like the same crappy Dante to me when I saw him. Hard to believe he is getting paid again
[QUOTE]Cool. That's a great place for him. He can at least get some playing time. [/QUOTE]
he can? Couldn't last year
[QUOTE]I still remember the breakout game he had in OKC where he finally got 22 minutes playing time. 4/5 FG and 2/3 from 3. He was so happy and refreshing in his post game interview.
But DWade arrived and Donny got hurt next game and he got a DNP Coach's Decision.. Like seriously WTH? Then super short handed against the Lakers and he gets like 6 minutes. Like double WTH.
Guy busts his butt for 2 years. Waits patiently for an opportunity. Plays great when finally gets a game when he gets real minutes. I know OKC but still. And then gets a DNP. And 6 minutes with no Mike or Donny. I thought was horrendous player management by Q at the time and still do.
Seeing how the team wore down down by the end of the year and injuries killed our backcourt it was a stretch where he could easily have played 20 to 25 minutes a game and really seen what he could do. And saved a lot of wear and tear on Joe and JC.
He might have bombed but we will never know. He could have turned into another Dort or Royce too. I hope he gets a real shot somewhere else.
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someone gets it. Shut down Derozan in the bubble too. Guy has game
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Making room for someone else?
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another exhibit 10 maybe
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/17/utah-jazz-ranking-challengers-west/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]Luka Doncic is a special talent, and the best player between the Utah Jazz and the Dallas Mavericks. His team simply does not have the firepower to pose a true threat to the Jazzmen.
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wasn't impressed last year and they downgraded their coach
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, the Jazz face no such uncertainty. They enter the 2021-22 season with a deep, talented roster of seemingly satisfied players. Furthermore, as much as the Blazers made incremental improvements this offseason, it feels unlikely that they did enough to overcome the 10-win advantage the Utah Jazz enjoyed over them last season.
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new coach and Nance. Watch out!
[QUOTE]We’ve already made the argument that the Utah Jazz [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/06/3-reasons-utah-jazz-counter-lakers/"]may be specifically designed[/URL] to counter the ultra-talented, veteran-heavy Los Angeles Lakers. Having said that: good god, are these Los Angeles Lakers talented.
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talented or old?
[QUOTE]The addition of human triple-double Russell Westbrook to a squad already featuring GOAT candidate LeBron James and elite big man Anthony Davis feels like an occurrence you might deem unrealistic in NBA 2K22. One wonders whether this offseason development finally confirms that yes, we do live in a simulation. Regardless, it happened, and it’s terrifying.
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terrifying?
[QUOTE]His cuts to the basket can be devastatingly effective, but that feels like a part-time answer. Ultimately, modern NBA teams tend to run, at a minimum, four-out spacing. That would necessitate a full-time switch to the 5 for Anthony Davis, [URL="https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/7/30/22601457/anthony-davis-told-russell-westbrook-hed-play-center-more-make-trade-work-lebron-james-lakers"]a move he’s allegedly willing to make[/URL]: however, with Dwight Howard and DeAndre Jordan both on the roster, it remains difficult to picture these pieces fitting together.
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Davis needs to play the 5 but he's always hurt and Lebron has been for the past 3 years and Westbrook doesn't fit. Good luck!
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/17/utah-jazz-waive-promising-young-forward/[/url]
[QUOTE]Brantley had accepted a qualifying offer of $1.6m in early August, meaning that the Jazz will only take a cap hit of $84,414, per [URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1438616105791152136"]Bobby Mark of ESPN[/URL].
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plus tax
[QUOTE]Over the 37 games in which Jarrell Brantley appeared with the Utah Jazz, he flashed potential. He was simply in need of too much developmental attention for a contending team to provide. Hopefully, he’ll find an opportunity in the NBA with a team in a better position to roster him.
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all he needed was a coach with a clue
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/16/utah-jazz-best-trade-timberwolves/[/url]
:roll:
I'd call it one of the worst trades they ever made. 3 firsts for a black hole! :facepalm
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/16/utah-jazz-star-bold-claim/[/url]
[QUOTE]Here’s hoping for a clean slate of health for Donovan Mitchell and the Utah Jazz in 2021-22. It could give him an opportunity to make-good on this bold claim.
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let's hope he listens to the doctors, plays D and passes the ball
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[QUOTE]“You want to make opponents make adjustments. Him at the five shooting three is going to pull Gobert out and they’re going to have to put somebody small on him and he can take advantage of that. [URL="https://www.talkbasket.net/133109-james-worthy-on-anthony-davis-moving-to-center-position-for-lakers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+talkbasket%2Frss+%28TalkBasket.net%29"]I think he needs to look at what position best suits the team and what position best suits how they wanna play before he just says ‘Ahh, one or the other.’”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.talkbasket.net/133109-james-worthy-on-anthony-davis-moving-to-center-position-for-lakers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+talkbasket%2Frss+%28TalkBasket.net%29"]TalkBasket[/URL]
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good luck
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[QUOTE][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDmOqdUwL4"]Brian Windhorst on candidates to coach Team USA: I would say Steve Kerr, who’s been an assistant the last few years, Erik Spoelstra, who did some work with the team earlier this summer with coaching, selecting, and I think Monty Williams will present himself as a strong candidate as well,[/URL] if he wants the job going forward. Also, there is an advantage of having a college coach, because he’s sort of a neutral party. And they if they took that route, you might see Jay Wright.
– via [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDmOqdUwL4"]YouTube[/URL]
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no COTY? He's supposedly one of the best and has Euro experience
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468208/32-jazz-ridiculous-three-point-shooting/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]Jazz Ridiculous Three-Point Shooting[/h]
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ridiculous that their worst shooter took the most 3's
[QUOTE]Throughout last season, Jazz coach Quin Snyder discussed the revelation he had during the 2020 NBA playoffs in the Orlando bubble when without Bojan Bogdanovic, the team’s best shooter, the Jazz had to be willing to have a quicker trigger from the three-point line to make up star shooters absence.
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star?
[QUOTE]Royce O’Neale, Donovan Mitchell, and Bojan Bogdanovic each shot between 38-39 percent, while Mike Conley, Georges Niang, and Joe Ingles shooting better than 40 percent.
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goodbye Gerorges!
[QUOTE]Furthermore, Gay shoots the three less than half as often as Niang has during his career. While Niang had his deficiencies on the floor, his three-point shooting wasn’t one of them.
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Gay will shoot more of them this year
[QUOTE]Ingles saw the most dramatic leap climbing from just under 40 percent two seasons ago to 45 percent last year. Mitchell’s shooting increased by two percent, while Conley’s increased by four points.
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was at 44 + two years in a row
[QUOTE]Newcomer Eric Paschall saw his three-point shooting jump to 33 percent last season in Golden State, a number the Jazz would like to see continue to grow. Meanwhile, rookie Jared Butler was one of the best shooters in the draft knocking down 41 percent of his three-point attempts at Baylor last season on a healthy 6.2 attempts.
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will they play?
[QUOTE]Though Jordan Clarkson has earned the nickname “Flamethrower” due to his ability to scorch the nets, the guard shot just 34 percent from three last year, a dip from his previous two seasons, and another area where the Jazz could see improvement.
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more likely to drop. You forget he started the season over 40%. He was horrendous in the final months
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Virtus Bologna’s win over LBA newcomer Tortona in SuperCup Quarterfinal game yesterday night was overshadowed by a serious injury occurred to Nigerian center [URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/ekpe-udoh-suffers-possible-patellar-tendon-injury-in-virtus-bologna-supercup-game-vs-tortona/"]Ekpe Udoh, who appears to have injured his patellar tendon in a no-contact situation.[/URL] Former Fenerbahce center was taken out of the court in a stretcher and after the game coach Sergio Scariolo confirmed the seriousness of the injury, adding that the team will look for a replacement in the market: “He’s our cornerstone, both on attack and on defense. It’s dramatic, I hope that it serves to understand that you need to respect the players. Here there are stickers on the court everywhere, in the NBA it’s not the case. We will look for a replacement”.
– via [URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/ekpe-udoh-suffers-possible-patellar-tendon-injury-in-virtus-bologna-supercup-game-vs-tortona/"]Sportando
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[URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/legabasket/1247913/scariolo-speaks-against-court-stickers-after-udohs-injury/"]“We are in shock and worried,” Scariolo said after the game on Udoh’s injury.[/URL] The Italian coach spoke against the use of slippery stickers on basketball floors which have often caused players to hurt themselves.
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/legabasket/1247913/scariolo-speaks-against-court-stickers-after-udohs-injury/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]
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[QUOTE]However, if you ask former Suns forward Matt Barnes, the Suns aren’t favored to make it back to the Finals. In an episode of “The Jump”, Barnes had this to say. (via Fadeaway World, NBA on ESPN YouTube): “Love CP! Love Book! Experience is the best teacher and they have that now. [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/suns-news-devin-booker-chris-paul-phoenix-wont-repeat-finals-run-claims-one-time-suns-vet/"]But if the West is healthy, it’s going to be loaded, and it’s going to be tough [for the Suns] to get out. I wouldn’t bet on them, with all due respect.[/URL] Like I said, great young team, one of the best floor generals we’ve ever seen in the history of this game. But again, a lot of things lined up perfect for them to do what they did last year.”
– via [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/suns-news-devin-booker-chris-paul-phoenix-wont-repeat-finals-run-claims-one-time-suns-vet/"]Gerard Samillano @ Clutch Points[/URL]
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I'd agree everything went right for them but them and the Jazz were way ahead of everyone so they have to be the favorite still
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/19/utah-jazz-best-trade-philadelphia-76ers/[/url]
[QUOTE]At the time, this exchange felt like a solid return for both teams. Jeff Malone may be one of history’s forgotten players, but he was no scrub. He earns the unique distinction of being [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonje01.html"]the second-best Malone in Utah Jazz history.[/URL]
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it looked like a steal at the time. i'd have been happy if they'd cut Malone and they got Horny for him! :roll:
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/18/utah-jazz-best-trade-brooklyn-nets/[/url]
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, the Utah Jazz acquired franchise mainstay Derrick Favors in the exchange. He’s spent the vast majority of his 11-year career in Salt Lake City. His best individual season came in 2015-16, with averages of 16.4 points and 8.1 rebounds per game. As a conventional big, his ability to impact the game has lessened in the wake of the three-point revolution, but he was a serviceable rotation player up until he was traded this very offseason.
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sad that he's the best they got for one of their best players ever. Even sadder that he played 11 years and two stints with the Jazz while letting Millsap and Bradley go!
[QUOTE]Devin Harris may not have been as splashy a name as Williams, but he was a reasonable replacement for him during his stay in Utah. Furthermore, the Jazz used the two first round picks they acquired in the deal on Enes Kanter and Gorgui Dieng. The former was a starting center for the Utah Jazz until he was eventually usurped by Rudy Gobert and his vastly superior interior defense.
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Harris was horrible and to get rid of him they had to take on Marvin Williams! :facepalm
[QUOTE]This trade may have been far from the best deal the Utah Jazz have made in their franchise history, but given their [URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/why-did-the-jazz-trade-deron-williams-2011-2"]apparent urgency to move Williams[/URL], they did receive a solid return for the soon-to-regress point guard. That makes it the best deal the franchise has made in their history with the Nets.
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so much urgency that no one but the Nets knew he was available and they took the 2nd offer! :cry:
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[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/09/18/nba-ranking-best-trios-lakers/2/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]10. Zach LaVine, Lonzo Ball, DeMar DeRozan (or Nikola Vucevic)[/h][/QUOTE]Bulls from lottery to 10th is a big leap. Lavine has yet to show he can win games. Couldn't do it last year with Vuc. Derozan and Ball puts them over the top? Vuc is the all star not Ball or Demar :facepalm
[QUOTE][h=2]9. Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Bojan Bogdanovic[/h]
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from 1st to 9th and Bojan and Mitchell ahead of Conley, O'Neale and Ingles!
[QUOTE][h=2]5. Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr.[/h]
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When will Murray be back and will they play any D?
[QUOTE][h=2]4. Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green[/h]
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when will Klay back and how good will he be
[QUOTE]AD is arguably a top 3 player when he’s healthy and LeBron is still LeBron. Old man LeBron is still better than 99 percent of the league. Perhaps the only two players unanimously better than him at this point are Giannis and Kevin Durant.
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injuries and Westbrook aren't getting you anywhere
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Keith Smith: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jarrell Brantley, who played for the Utah Jazz for the last two season, has signed with BC UNICS in Kazan, Russia[/URL]. BC UNICS also signed former NBAer O.J. Mayo. Mayo last played in the NBA in in 2015-16 with the Milwaukee Bucks.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA"]Twitter KeithSmithNBA[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468407/jazz-moving-training-camp-to-las-vegas/[/url]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468187/31-utah-jazz-two-way-guard-trent-forrest/[/url]
[QUOTE]The former Seminole followed it up with an even more impressive performance during summer league with the Jazz.
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I'd say doin g it in the regular season is more impressive
[QUOTE]Forrest led the Jazz in scoring at 15.8 points while also dishing out 6.8 assists, and grabbing 6.0 rebounds per game playing in both [URL="https://kslsports.com/466207/what-we-did-and-didnt-learn-from-jazz-summer-league/"]Salt Lake City[/URL] and Las Vegas. Most importantly, he showed an improved feel for the offense and a dramatically improved jump shot.
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had a good feel last year. Just couldn't shoot
[QUOTE]Last season, Forrest shot just 19 percent from three, not nearly good enough to be considered a threat on the perimeter. But in seven appearances during summer league, the guard knocked down 7-18 deep balls for a very healthy 38 percent.
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still looked ugly
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/20/utah-jazz-best-trade-lakers/[/url]
[QUOTE]Adrian Dantley is one of the finest midrange shooters in NBA history and an undisputed Utah Jazz icon. At the cost of a [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywosp01.html"]rapidly aging Spencer Haywood[/URL], that’s a pretty good return.
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he could certainly it it from 20 feet in but he was known for his work near the hoop not the mid range :facepalm
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/20/utah-jazz-regrading-clarkson-trade/[/url]
[QUOTE]On first blush, that seems like a fair price for Clarkson’s services. Dante Exum entered the National Basketball Association with a lot of promise, as he was selected 5th overall in the 2014 NBA Draft by the Utah Jazz. Unfortunately, injuries have derailed the young Aussie’s career. By 2021, Exum is 26-year-old. He missed his entire sophomore season with a knee injury, played 66 games the following year, and hasn’t managed even 45 games in a season since.
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would have rather kept Exum in retrospect as horrible as he was
[QUOTE]As for those two second-round picks, it’s possible that in hindsight, the Cavaliers will be glad to have landed them. We’ve seen productive players slip to the second-round with increasing frequency in the NBA, with Nikola Jokic and Draymond Green serving as two prominent examples of second-round steals. With that said, contending teams like the Utah Jazz will always have to take that risk in efforts to upgrade their immediate roster: the odds of a second-round selection yielding a player of Jordan Clarkson’s (ironically, a second-round pick himself) value simply remain too low.
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any player that's not Clarkson would be great
[QUOTE]As for Clarkson, we referred to the imperfections in his game already, and they do exist. He is, like many undersized scoring guards, prone to bouts of inefficiency. Last season, he was shooting a solid 58% effective field goal percentage (eFG%) heading into the All-Star Break. He shot a grizzly 49 eFG% afterwards, and that trend continued into the playoffs with an eFG% of 50.9.
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and COTY loved every minute of that shit show! :facepalm
[QUOTE]That kind of slippage in offensive efficiency holds the [URL="http://www.thejnotes.com/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] back from receiving a perfect grade for the Jordan Clarkson deal, but nonetheless, his services remain impressive value for the cost of a point guard who can’t stay healthy and two second-round picks
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the 3 years and big bucks left on his contract gives it an F
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/19/utah-jazz-nba-legend-playoff-dagger/[/url]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468429/30-jazz-opening-night/[/url]
[QUOTE]Favors helped oversee a total Jazz rebuild after the departure of Deron Williams before being traded to the New Orleans Pelicans to clear room for Mike Conley and Bojan Bogdanovic in 2019. Then, after resigning with the Jazz in 2020, he was [URL="https://kslsports.com/464778/report-jazz-trade-derrick-favors-to-thunder-for-future-second-round-pick/"]traded[/URL] to the Thunder to trim the team’s luxury tax bill in July.
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I'd say they'd be happy to pay the luxury bill if he hadn't sucked but than again Clarkson and COTY suck too
[QUOTE]Gay will step into the role left absent by forward Georges Niang, while Whiteside will be tasked with filling Favors shoes. Paschall and Butler will compete for a spot in the rotation throughout the year.
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what spot exactly?
[QUOTE]Opening night will also mark a rematch of Donovan Mitchell and Lu Dort, one of the most exciting head-to-head matchups in the NBA last season.
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it was? Shai/Conley should be good
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/9/21/22654278/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-udoka-azubuike-dok[/url]
[QUOTE][I]The big man looked dominant in the summer league. How could he fare in the big league?[/I]
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how bout we see how he fares in the Gleague first?
[QUOTE]WhenWhen Udoka Azubuike was drafted 27th overall by the [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] in the 2020 [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft"]NBA Draft[/URL], many Jazz fans were unhappy. Utah was expected to sign Derrick Favors as their backup center in the coming days. Why draft a center?[/QUOTE]
because they had 6 rookies and non of them was a big center. Gobert and Bradley were free agents. They had young guys to develop everywhere else. The draft isn't for immediate help ideally. As good as Butler might be where will he get minutes?
[QUOTE]This was where the big man dominated. In summer league, you can almost always pinpoint who the NBA-level players are by watching a single quarter of basketball. NBA talent just stands high above college talent. Udoka Azubuike was one of those guys. He was physically dominant. There were other guys with NBA size there, but they couldn’t handle him. As a reminder, Azubuike is 6’10”, 280 lbs. He tries to dunk the ball every time he has a chance to, and when you’ve got that kind of size combined with aggression, it’s almost impossible to stop.
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We'll see. Forrest made it easy for him
[QUOTE]Dok is still young and raw. He will likely not be in the regular rotation, as Hassan Whiteside was brought in to be Rudy Gobert’s backup. However, if either Gobert or Whiteside misses any time, expect Azubuike to fill in.
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We'll see. Morgan was ahead of him last year and later Ersan
[QUOTE]The best-case scenario for Azubuike is that he performs so well in practices, G-League, and his spot NBA minutes, that he begins challenging Whiteside for the primary backup role. I don’t see this as likely, but I also don’t think it’s outside of the realm of possibility.
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I don't expect much of Whiteside so this is the ideal situation. Trade Whiteside at the deadline
[QUOTE]Right now, it’s hard to imagine watching Azubuike playing 15 minutes in an important NBA game and feeling comfortable with his defense. He has the physical tools to be an even bigger Rudy Gobert. He has such a tantalizing combination of size, length, athleticism, and pure power.
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outside of a few guys on the team who do you feel comfortable with on D?
[QUOTE]The other big thing Azubuike needs to improve on is his free-throw shooting. In college, Dok shot 41% from the line. So far in his NBA career, we haven’t seen much improvement in the small amount of time he’s played. While he’s 8-10 from the line in the NBA, he went 12-29 between the two summer leagues. If he’s unable to get his free throw percentage up over 60%, “hack-a-Dok” would be a viable strategy for any opponents. When you’re fighting for NBA minutes, having an exploitable weakness of that magnitude can be a major roadblock.
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60 is still hack a Dok as we've seen with Gobert. Ideally high 60's at least
[QUOTE]All that said, Dok will have a positive impact every time he steps on the court. His potential is through the roof. If he can make significant improvements to the weak areas of his game, it will be nearly impossible to keep him off the court.
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how can you say a guy that has done absolutely nothing in an NBA game will make a positive impact?
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DOK looked great to me and in my book, those stats indicate we have a diamond
13.7 points, 10.7 rebounds, 2.7 blocks per game in the Salt Lake City Summer League
I get the conservative assessment that he is not ready now, but I think he should get serious non-garbage mins to make sure he develops. Even if it means taking some mins away from Gobert and Whiteside today.
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the Gleague is there for a reason as is practice. Many ways to develop. Needs to earn his minutes
[QUOTE]His offense is easy to see translating to the NBA. He doesn't try to do too much (except sometimes he tries to dunk from ten feet away). He just takes the easy shots. We wouldn't need anything more from him.
We'd need everything from him on defense. The Jazz scheme is built entirely on the center being superhuman. He needs to be the last line of defense for every singles teammate, and I'm not at all confident he can be that right now. In a few years, yeah probably. Now? No way.
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Need him to set screens and crash the offensive glass. Again he hasn't proven anything in an NBA game. Summer league was encouraging. See soon what he looks like in pre season and than probably in the Gleague. One step at a time
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I agree. I think he could be special. Maybe he can be the starter when Rudy declines.
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tank!
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/21/utah-jazz-battles-training-camp/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz boast one of the strongest backcourt rotations in the entire National Basketball Association. Donovan Mitchell is a star, Mike Conley Jr. just submitted the first All-Star season of his 14-year career, and as mentioned, Jordan Clarkson was deemed the best reserve in the league last year. After those three, however, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/10/utah-jazz-free-agency-3-guards-rotation/"]the rotation thins out somewhat quickly[/URL], and it’s unclear who will be the fourth guard in Quin Snyder’s rotation.
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Ingles?
[QUOTE]Jared Butler seems like the obvious first choice. Selected with the 40th pick in the 2021 NBA Draft, [URL="https://edge.twinspires.com/nba/jared-butler-is-the-steal-of-the-2021-nba-draft-july-31st/"]many observers feel[/URL] that Butler has a [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/roundball-roundup-jared-butler-steal-draft"]chance to be a steal[/URL]. He could make an immediate contribution with his solid, low-usage, high-IQ brand of basketball.
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No reason to think anyone will make an immediate contribution under COTY especially if they didn't attend Duke. See what he does with the Stars first
[QUOTE]Miye Oni and [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/17/utah-jazz-jazz-sign-macio-teague/"]MaCio Teague[/URL] round out the guards on this Utah Jazz roster. They both project as unlikely to feature as regular members of Quin Snyder’s rotation, but they’ll both be looking towards training camp as an opportunity to demonstrate their abilities and earn a spot as the fourth guard in the rotation for the Jazzmen.
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Oni should be ahead of the others until proven otherwise
[QUOTE]The Jazz acquired two very similar players this offseason in [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/03/utah-jazz-rudy-gay-agreed-deal-jazz/"]Rudy Gay[/URL] and [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/05/utah-jazz-grading-eric-paschall-trade/"]Eric Paschall[/URL]. Both men at this respective stage in their careers project as a quality backup 4 / small-ball 5. A look at their statistical profiles from last season provides little clarity regarding which is likely to earn more minutes in Snyder’s rotation.
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they aren't similar and there should be no battle unless Mitchell demands it
[QUOTE]Indeed, it would seem likely that each of these players was acquired primarily to beef up Utah’s defensive versatility, after watching Rudy Gobert struggle against the Los Angeles Clippers’ small-ball attack in last season’s Western Conference semi-finals. With that in mind, the veteran Gay must have the advantage over the younger, less developed Paschall.
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changing the coach would have made more sense
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/21/utah-jazz-best-trade-phoenix-suns/[/url]
[QUOTE]Ultimately, however, this didn’t look like a blockbuster trade on first glance. Gugliotta would finish the season with the Utah Jazz after this midseason exchange, and depart for the Boston Celtics the year after. That season would be his last in the Association, as he was well past his prime.
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I liked Gugliotta that year
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/20/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-shows-off-physique/[/url]
[QUOTE]Plus, due to added bulk this offseason in addition to some refined post moves while helping Team France capture a silver medal at the Tokyo Olympics, chances are Gobert will display considerable improvements on the offensive end as well.
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his moves weren't refined. Only difference was actually passing him the ball
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468475/29-tracking-former-jazz-fan-favorites/[/url]
[QUOTE]While that may seem like a steep price to pay to unload a contract, it’s a more than reasonable move considering Favors deal would have cost the Jazz more than $35 million in luxury tax penalties on top of his existing contract, a staggering price for reserve center.
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no matter how much you say it they got rid of him because he sucked. They'd pay him if he didn't
[QUOTE]Dante Exum had one of the more unique stretches in Utah, but still has one of the most dedicated followings among former Jazz players.
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he does?
[QUOTE]After proving unable to stay on the floor due to a series of serious injuries, the Jazz moved on from Exum in a trade for guard Jordan Clarkson. While the trade has proven to be one of the best in team history, Jazz fans still are vocal in their support of the former lottery pick.
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again I'd say they moved on from him because he sucks as does Clarkson
[QUOTE]Whether it was his consistency on the floor or his boyish good looks off the court, Raul Neto endeared himself to Jazz fans in four seasons with the team between 2015-2019.
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he did? Rudy and I liked him. The coach certainly didn't
[QUOTE]While several former Jazz fan favorites have gone on to find promising roles in the league after their tenure in Utah, Ricky Rubio has had one of the tougher runs in recent years.
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because he sucks? Poor guy has it rough at 17 mill a year though
[QUOTE]The last of the Jazz’s recent fan favorite, Jae Crowder has been terrifically successful since leaving Utah.
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Burks?
[QUOTE]While the Jazz needed to clear his roster spot to make room for Bojan Bogdanovic on the team, Crowder has gone on to make consecutive Finals appearances for the Miami Heat and the Suns.
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traded for Conley. Do your homework at least!
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He's got some potential. Would have liked to see that spot left open for camp for a change though
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[url]https://kslsports.com/468554/28-the-75th-anniversary-of-the-nba/[/url]
[QUOTE]Malone, Stockton, and Maravich are all likely to make the list once again, but any additional Jazzmen will be a longshot. Though Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert could eventually carve their places out as some of the best players to ever step on the basketball floor, they aren’t there yet.
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but Mitchell is the best player in franchise history!