Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]The problem is that none of them can shut down players like Melo,Durant,James and Pierce.[/QUOTE]
There's a very short list of players who can even keep up with those guys anyway. Marion is athletic and long, he's guarded smaller players before and if Gortat improves the Mavs interior D like he should their defence will improve.
Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
[QUOTE=Mr Clutch Melo]The problem is that none of them can shut down players like Melo,Durant,James and Pierce.[/QUOTE]
NOBODY can shut those guys down when they are on.
Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
Nice Trade For All The Teams Here. Good Job Guys.
Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
[QUOTE=knickballer]Jason Kidd gets exposed by the quicker PG's...[/QUOTE]
Some of the best defenders in the league can't always stay with a quicker point-guards, so that's no reason to bash him. Kidd keeps the offense effiecient and organized, he rebounds, gets steals, and always makes sure his team gets a high-percentage shot. Would you trade all that for someone who can keep his man in front of him sometimes?
Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
[QUOTE=Red-Head]Some of the best defenders in the league can't always stay with a quicker point-guards, so that's no reason to bash him. Kidd keeps the offense effiecient and organized, he rebounds, gets steals, and always makes sure his team gets a high-percentage shot. Would you trade all that for someone who can keep his man in front of him sometimes?[/QUOTE]
this, and kidd is still a solid deffender on most players, too many people round here think that the second you hit 30 you cease to be able to play deffense.
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
Yeah i think Marion fits in real well on paper with the Mav's. Its not like he needs the ball to be effective and now they are long and way more athletic. If any team got jipped it was Toronto, Hedo is overrated for the amount of attention he's getting. Anyways Mav's looking really good right now...
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
Regardless of what people say, Marion wasn't a good fit in TO and was hardly utilized to his potential.
Raptors have a strong starting lineup, but to be brutally honest their D will probably still be pretty weak.
Surprised no one is really talking about Jarret Jack going their, they have plenty of cap room to go after a couple good guys to make the bench stronger.
Either way, the Raptors will make the playoffs this year...at least they should.
But if they don't....at least will still have that 3 pointer streak record still going :rockon:
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]This is a great move but it could turn out to bite them in the ass if Dirk, Kidd, etc start showing their etc. This is an old team.[/QUOTE]
I think Dirk showed in the playoffs that he has more than enough left in the tank. And as long as Kidd continues to play within his element as he did last season (obviously he can't physically do everything he used to, but he's still a smart player, great passer, and a leader), I don't think he's that big of a question mark.
I'm most worried about Howard's health. If we have the athletic, slashing, and finishing Josh from 2005-2007, I think we're a contender. If not, then we're just another team in the West.
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
[QUOTE=Arti]
I'm most worried about Howard's health. If we have the athletic, slashing, and finishing Josh from 2005-2007, I think we're a contender. If not, then we're just another team in the West.[/QUOTE]
A healthy Josh is essential for the Mavs to be a serious threat.
Re: Mavericks Acquire Shawn Marion
[QUOTE=miles berg]Jason Kidd, Josh Howard, Shawn Marion, & Marcin Gortat are all excellent defenders.[/QUOTE]
Jason Kidd is too slow to defend the younger, quicker point guards.
Gortat is a solid defender, but he will be exposed by more polished big men with smoother moves around the basket.
Howard and Marion are both good defenders, but the team lacks an elite defensive presence. Kidd is on the way out, and trading for him was not a good idea.
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Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
The Mavs will be a bit better, but no way they get past the Spurs again this year.
Marion was a beast in Phoenix when Nash was tossing him alley-oops and leading the break. He's proven since then to be a questionable player in terms of creating offense on his own.
And the departure of Bass... that's what concerns me. Where is the bench low-post scoring going to come from?
I'm sure more moves will be made, but Dallas will simply be another 48 to 52 win team this year.
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
I don't get why Hedo Turkoglu left Orlando. You ride the big man to a title. He'll regret the Toronto move.
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
[QUOTE=Mavwreck][B]The Mavs will be a bit better, but no way they get past the Spurs again this year.[/B]
Marion was a beast in Phoenix when Nash was tossing him alley-oops and leading the break. He's proven since then to be a questionable player in terms of creating offense on his own.
And the departure of Bass... that's what concerns me. Where is the bench low-post scoring going to come from?
I'm sure more moves will be made, but Dallas will simply be another 48 to 52 win team this year.[/QUOTE]
Some ol talk from Spurs fans.....If Duncan and Manu are not 100% healthy the Spurs are not beating anybody come playoff time, the Spurs team last season would have beat most teams in the playoffs besides the Mavs and Lakers, the Mavs still give the Spurs match up problems and I dout the Spurs wonna see the Mavs with a healthy Josh Howard and Shawn Marion in the playoffs.
Re: Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done
[QUOTE=moatsman007]I don't get why Hedo Turkoglu left Orlando. You ride the big man to a title. He'll regret the Toronto move.[/QUOTE]
he wanted $$$ and Orlando wouldnt give it to him. I think he should've went to Portland, but the wifey wanted to live in Toronto :confusedshrug:
i think with Hedo, the Raps are a playoff team and maybe a 6th man away from being a contender.