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[QUOTE=John Smith]Funny how you think I use too much media. I appreciate your input as you are clearly educated. However, you have no idea the despise that I hold for today's media. It is nothing like the media that once informed the nation like it was in the Edward Murrow days...today's media is filled with tools for the CEO's of these large media corporations. Media today is meant to entertain instead of inform. I don't bother with the media...it is not serious.
And what about Chicago's very own Barack Obama? Isn't he a positive role model?[/QUOTE]
Ok we can agree on how the media is not doing anything that it could truly do, on a positive side that is.
I said it in a post already, I read your first few posts and you sounded very naive, ignorant, and young, then you changed the way you debated/argued, and I see a different person, but the same views. I just disliked the way you initially voiced your opinion, that's where I believed you came off ignorant, but then again what's the point of the internet if you can't speak how you truly feel?
I guess it's a backwards game.
On the behalf of Barack Obama, you are going with the American trend, assuming he should be the poster child for the positive Black man role model, [B]BUT DAMNIT THE MAN IS BI-RACIAL, WHITE AND BLACK[/B]. America made him choose one, solely based on his skin color. The man was raised like a typical/ideal "white kid". Lived with his white family during his youth, worked hard to get him to where he needed to be in life, ivy league school and the list goes on.
So many people label him the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" the man is bi-racial, what's the point of having an "OTHER" box or "BI-RACIAL" if it doesn't matter to America. People look at Barack and see brown skin, so if you are brown you're black.
Whatever I guess, America is crazy and F'd up.
Sorry for the rant, that's not directed solely at you, just the society in general.
But for every Barack Obama we have a lot of bad apples that are portrayed. America in general doesn't portray a lot of positive role models, think about it.
Like Chamillionaire said, "Controversy Sells"
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Again, every post I make on this board is to help my work day go by faster. Thanks for humoring me people. :cheers:
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[QUOTE=John Smith]Wow, can people read? The probablity increases if one is all of those things. Heck, sadly the probablity increases based upon race alone![/QUOTE]
Based on the defintion of "racism" and its associated adjective...
[I]rac
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Is it discrimination, More Fire, though if it is based off of facts and reality? I don't see it as such but maybe I am wrong.
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[QUOTE=John Smith]Cavs, I made those conclusions about you based on your post. You clearly were talking down to me. Even if it is deservedly so, you see why I made those conclusions about you. No need to get upset about it. that is not the ISH way.[/QUOTE]
Ehh I still think you had some useless comments/conclusions based on my post, but whatever, we have different agendas.
Your view isn't a minority, but others aren't seeing everything that you are saying, a lot is true, but now you have the "racist" and "prejudice" label so others are going 2 take everything you say and overblow it.
I've seen Chicago, and it isn't pretty, I know that. I've been in Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, all have their bad areas, just not as large as Chicago. I was hoping to move to Chicago to teach in the Southside, but my wife hates the winter months there, she says they are horrible and brutal. We're looking at somewhere in the south now.
Now that we have met a middle ground, I see what you are saying. Enjoy work.
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[QUOTE=John Smith]Did it ever occur to you that I am at work and engage in controversial conversation to help my day go by faster? It's working! :applause:[/QUOTE]
And? Aren't most of us doing the same? I certainly am... but even so... what does that have to do with your incessant racial posts?
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[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]And? Aren't most of us doing the same? I certainly am... but even so... what does that have to do with your incessant racial posts?[/QUOTE]
Just in this thread about thugs and keyon martin. I said those things to spark a debate and I think I got more than what I was looking for. I know better now. :hammerhead: It turned into a wildfire before you could count to three.
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[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]Ok we can agree on how the media is not doing anything that it could truly do, on a positive side that is.
I said it in a post already, I read your first few posts and you sounded very naive, ignorant, and young, then you changed the way you debated/argued, and I see a different person, but the same views. I just disliked the way you initially voiced your opinion, that's where I believed you came off ignorant, but then again what's the point of the internet if you can't speak how you truly feel?
I guess it's a backwards game.
On the behalf of Barack Obama, you are going with the American trend, assuming he should be the poster child for the positive Black man role model, [B]BUT DAMNIT THE MAN IS BI-RACIAL, WHITE AND BLACK[/B]. America made him choose one, solely based on his skin color. The man was raised like a typical/ideal "white kid". Lived with his white family during his youth, worked hard to get him to where he needed to be in life, ivy league school and the list goes on.
So many people label him the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" the man is bi-racial, what's the point of having an "OTHER" box or "BI-RACIAL" if it doesn't matter to America. People look at Barack and see brown skin, so if you are brown you're black.
Whatever I guess, America is crazy and F'd up.
Sorry for the rant, that's not directed solely at you, just the society in general.
But for every Barack Obama we have a lot of bad apples that are portrayed. America in general doesn't portray a lot of positive role models, think about it.
Like Chamillionaire said, "Controversy Sells"[/QUOTE]
While I agree that society did indeed label Barack black it should also be noted that he also identifies as being black and married a black woman and has black kids. So I think its safe to say Barack is both percieved as a black man and identifies as a black man.
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[QUOTE=Sammobile]what does that have to do with K-Mart? they have nothing in common[/QUOTE]
Absolutely nothing, but considering this idot has claimed or admitted to trolling for a response instead of a reasonable exchange of ideas says a lot about him.
Either he is an idiot who has obvious touched upon a subject upon which he knows little & is ill equipped to seriously debate or he his trolling.
He has never answered any reasonable questions with reasonable responses so to continue with this guy is futile.
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[QUOTE=John Smith]Is it discrimination, More Fire, though if it is based off of facts and reality? I don't see it as such but maybe I am wrong.[/QUOTE]
There is no scientific or social proof that links skin colour to immoral or criminal behaviour. So yes, it is dicrimination. And discrimination based on skin colour is called racial discrimination. And people who racially discriminate are called racists.
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[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]Ehh I still think you had some useless comments/conclusions based on my post, but whatever, we have different agendas.
Your view isn't a minority, but others aren't seeing everything that you are saying, a lot is true, but now you have the "racist" and "prejudice" label so others are going 2 take everything you say and overblow it.
I've seen Chicago, and it isn't pretty, I know that. I've been in Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, all have their bad areas, just not as large as Chicago. I was hoping to move to Chicago to teach in the Southside, but my wife hates the winter months there, she says they are horrible and brutal. We're looking at somewhere in the south now.
Now that we have met a middle ground, I see what you are saying. Enjoy work.[/QUOTE]
I agree with much of what you have posted. Except for your insistence that a lot of what John Smith posted was true. I refuse to pass his prejudicial comments off as truth. Even if he comes to the right conclusion, but his path to said conclusion was completely wrong can we say its true?
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That's just Cuban being Cuban a tired ridiculous act and a post traumatic whiner disrespecting an opponent's player mom after results that didn't go his way (waa waa):cry: :cry: . Now the drama escalates to where the cry baby:cry: has to deal with a thug having personal issues out on him....do we smell blood on behalf of the thug or will it all be resolved with Cuban apologizing with some flowers and a dinner date lol.
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Kmart tried to confront Cuban who was shaking fans hands on the other side of the floor. As Kmart and Denver walked off he screamed to Cuban [B][I]"You better walk that way! You better f*ckin walk that way!"[/I][/B]. If anyone knows his seat isnt too far from where Denver exited [I](which is past Dallas bench)[/I].
He made a blog apologizing but Kmart doesnt mess with the internet like that. Just kidding but I wouldnt be surprised. How do you apologize on a blog and expect someone to read if? Not like Kmart was reading your blogs as a fan.
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New reports claim a Mavs fan threw beer on KMarts mom last night.
:no:
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[QUOTE=bdreason]New reports claim a Mavs fan threw beer on KMarts mom last night.
:no:[/QUOTE]
When? Wasnt during the game. Camera focused on her alot. If anything went down it would have been captured or atleast mentioned. And no one reacted after the game as players left the court. I call BS.