Kobe uses a personal helicopter to travel from his home to Staples center every day

My friend is a helicopter pilot that does short trips to islands. His fleet flies out 5 times a day each pilot. His whole flett hasn't had a fatility in 15 years.
Helicopter crashes make the news because they are more interesting.

[QUOTE=hateraid;14268673]My friend is a helicopter pilot that does short trips to islands. His fleet flies out 5 times a day each pilot. His whole flett hasn't had a fatility in 15 years.
Helicopter crashes make the news because they are more interesting.[/QUOTE]

Celebrities fly in helicopters all the time and we never hear about them dying in a helicopter crash. In fact it's so rare that Kobe is the only celebrity that I know of who has died in a helicopter crash.

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14268665]Nope you are wrong. The likelihood of death in helicopter trips is greater than car or flight trips. The absolute number is smaller only because, there are very few people actually take helicopter trips compared to cars/flights.[/QUOTE]

Listen man you need to do a bit of reading. And I’m not saying that as if I’m some expert on helicopters. What I do know from reading is they are not dangerous. Kobe helicopter didn’t fall out the sky because it malfunctioned. You do realize that? There was no mechanical failure where the pilot couldn’t have saved them only GOD. It was human error. The pilot is getting the blame because he flew in weather conditions most said he shouldn’t have. Was that pressure from getting Kobe to his destination? Was that a discussion he brought up and Kobe said push through it? Don’t know. What we do know is that crash was avoidable. He could have landed and waited. He could have switched to auto pilot where these helicopters are designed to fly in these conditions because a human could easily make a fatal mistake (as we saw). From what I read he was speeding and thought he was climbing above the clouds when he was really descending. It happens when a pilot becomes disoriented and they feel they are leveled out or going up. It’s called the leans. Dude was trained enough to know this. Maybe since he was close to destination he wanted to push through. Again many questions that go unanswered but this was avoidable.


Helicopter also has a strong safety record. So it didn’t crash due to mechanical failure which most people assume happens in crashes. And this is why you probably feel they are dangerous because hey engine could go out and you’re done.

[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14268671]Apparently the rate of helicopter crashes was cut in half over the last 10 years. Also, I deleted that post (before your post) because I now know I was wrong.

Most car crashes are also due to human error, and helicopters are much more likely to be flown by a professional than a car, which also impacts the death rates.

Lets see the death rate of cars driven by professional drivers vs. Helicopters being flown by amateurs...[/QUOTE]

Correct about most helicopters flown by professionals. Guess what? The pilot was a pro and ignored his training. Thus crashing. Go figure. Even professionals make fatal errors.

I’m curious (not being a dbag). What makes a helicopter dangerous? The threat of a mechanical issue happening up in air? The experiencing of the person piloting the helicopter?

[QUOTE=GOBB;14268685]Correct about most helicopters flown by professionals. Guess what? The pilot was a pro and ignored his training. Thus crashing. Go figure. Even professionals make fatal errors.

I’m curious (not being a dbag). What makes a helicopter dangerous? The threat of a mechanical issue happening up in air? The experiencing of the person piloting the helicopter?[/QUOTE]

Helicopters are much more difficult to fly and there is less margin for error. Professionals are still able to make mistakes at times...all it takes is one.

Kobe's helicopter crash was a murder-suicide.

[QUOTE=clipps;14268707]Kobe's helicopter crash was a murder-suicide.[/QUOTE]

I heard it was actually Iran, and the US government covered it up.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14268705]Helicopters are much more difficult to fly and there is less margin for error. Professionals are still able to make mistakes at times...all it takes is one.[/QUOTE]

Definitely. But this instance it was an avoidable mistake. I’m trying to understand how helicopters are dangerous. Being difficult to fly isn’t one. Less margin for error applies to private jets, planes and trains as well. None are dangerous. Helicopters may be scary given their size. But dangerous to fly? Not even close.

Kobe died to bad weather and human error

[QUOTE=GOBB;14268797]Definitely. But this instance it was an avoidable mistake. I’m trying to understand how helicopters are dangerous. Being difficult to fly isn’t one. Less margin for error applies to private jets, planes and trains as well. None are dangerous. Helicopters may be scary given their size. But dangerous to fly? Not even close.

Kobe died to bad weather and human error[/QUOTE]
Gobb couldn't you also argue cars aren't dangerous? Just the drivers behind them? Same with motorcycles, guns? Etc? Is this your stance on all these as well?

[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14268755]I heard it was actually Iran, and the US government covered it up.[/QUOTE]

Retaliation for the murder of an Iranian war general. I gorgot his name vut Trump killed him in 2019

[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14268755]I heard it was actually Iran, and the US government covered it up.[/QUOTE]

:lebronamazed:

Fvck.

I KNEW the Orange Man was Bad! :rant

[QUOTE=GOBB;14268797]Definitely. But this instance it was an avoidable mistake. I’m trying to understand how helicopters are dangerous. Being difficult to fly isn’t one. Less margin for error applies to private jets, planes and trains as well. None are dangerous. Helicopters may be scary given their size. But dangerous to fly? Not even close.

Kobe died to bad weather and human error[/QUOTE]

Airplanes are cruising at much higher altitudes and have auto pilot capabilities. If you lose visibility for awhile it’s manageable. In a helicopter cruising at much lower heights with no autopilot, if you lose visibility you die. Even if you don’t run into a mountain immediately, it becomes impossible to orient yourself with no visual point of reference and you will eventually end up flying out of control and crashing.

You are right it was an avoidable mistake though. The weather conditions were very uncertain and he should have turned around. His pilot was supposed to be the best of the best but he had a moment of bad judgement.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14268877]Airplanes are cruising at much higher altitudes and have auto pilot capabilities. If you lose visibility for awhile it’s manageable. In a helicopter cruising at much lower heights with no autopilot, if you lose visibility you die. Even if you don’t run into a mountain immediately, it becomes impossible to orient yourself with no visual point of reference and you will eventually end up flying out of control and crashing.

You are right it was an avoidable mistake though. The weather conditions were very uncertain and he should have turned around. His pilot was supposed to be the best of the best but he had a moment of bad judgement.[/QUOTE]
Deadsticking a helicopter (losing power) is also much more dangerous than deadsticking an airplane. Airplanes create more lift with their wings vs rotors and can glide better.

[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous;14268878]Deadsticking a helicopter (losing power) is also much more dangerous than deadsticking an airplane. Airplanes create more lift with their wings vs rotors and can glide better.[/QUOTE]

What about longsticking?

I heard Lebron is good at that.

If ya know what I mean ;)

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14268877]Airplanes are cruising at much higher altitudes and have auto pilot capabilities. If you lose visibility for awhile it’s manageable. In a helicopter cruising at much lower heights with no autopilot, if you lose visibility you die. Even if you don’t run into a mountain immediately, it becomes impossible to orient yourself with no visual point of reference and you will eventually end up flying out of control and crashing.

You are right it was an avoidable mistake though. The weather conditions were very uncertain and he should have turned around. His pilot was supposed to be the best of the best but he had a moment of bad judgement.[/QUOTE]

Which is why there are helicopters that are designed (like Kobe’s) to handle such things without you crashing. The pilot didn’t put it on auto pilot so it could navigate accurately in the fog.