Wade or Iverson?

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Karl Malone at 36 won an MVP award in this "Iverson era"[/QUOTE]

Jordan won finals MVP and dominated the playoffs in 98 at 36. Your point? As Shih said... players stayed in their prime longer back then. This is a more athletic, less fundamental league AND most of the elite players in the game in the last decade came straight out of HS or were one and done. Meaning they didn't go to college for 2+ years like the elite players of the 80's and 90's. I mean look at Kobe. He's 32 and is a 16 year vet and is already slowing down. It has to do with the mileage and what kind of mileage, not the years or age.

wade and its not even close.

you maybe can make a case for iverson being a better scorer, but its marginal at best. imo, his inefficiency makes his scoring overrated.

but on defense, wade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iverson

and bball IQ, wade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iverson.

[QUOTE=f0und]wade and its not even close.

you maybe can make a case for iverson being a better scorer, but its marginal at best. imo, his inefficiency makes his scoring overrated.

but on defense, wade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iverson

and bball IQ, wade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iverson.[/QUOTE]

Please don't try to act analytical and sh!t when you're actually making no sense at all.

Rings doesn't reliable for players like Iverson.

He played mostly with average or below average players and coaches in his prime. Only players can be considered as really good was 34-35 years old Mutombo and coach L.Brown. He won MVP,reached finals and heroic games in all playoffs and finals. When you look at players with rings..you see usually other great players around them.From Russell to Jordan, from Kobe to Wade. Kobe,Wade,Garnett,Lebron,Jordan,Wilt without great players couldn't win championship.It's no brainer.

Wade played with 32 years old Shaq with Pat Riley as coach. Now he is playing with 26 years old Lebron and 27 years old Bosh. Shaq was still considered best center in those years. Lebron is considered as best player in the league and Chris Bosh considered as franchise player.

Iverson played with mostly below average teammates and coaches but one great center while Wade has played probably 2 of top ten players of all time so far.

[QUOTE=rodman91]Rings doesn't reliable for players like Iverson.

He played mostly with average or below average players and coaches in his prime. Only players can be considered as really good was 34-35 years old Mutombo and coach L.Brown. He won MVP,reached finals and heroic games in all playoffs and finals. When you look at players with rings..you see usually other great players around them.From Russell to Jordan, from Kobe to Wade. Kobe,Wade,Garnett,Lebron,Jordan,Wilt without great players couldn't win championship.It's no brainer.

Wade played with 32 years old Shaq with Pat Riley as coach. Now he is playing with 26 years old Lebron and 27 years old Bosh. Shaq was still considered best center in those years. Lebron is considered as best player in the league and Chris Bosh considered as franchise player.

Iverson played with mostly below average teammates and coaches but one great center while Wade has played probably 2 of [B]top ten players of all time so far.[/QUOTE][/B]

:facepalm :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]you old people are so annoying.

thats all you people with all that ":blah :blah is better than :blah :blah because of the era it played in"

lol @ saying teams in 2001 were better than 2011. The Lakers were amazing that season and thats it.[/QUOTE]

first, i'm probably a lot younger than you. it just so happened i started watching ball when i was in 3rd grade.

the physicality of the early 2000s was far more intense than today's. you could give hard, playoff fouls on a regular basis without worrying about a possible flagrant or suspension. a "declining" AI put up 26/7 on a nightly basis in 2007-08. just imagine what he would do today if he was in his prime.

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:facepalm :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]

Shaq is in top 10.
Lebron has great chance to be in top 10. at 26 he has already 2 mvp.And other seasons as mvp candidate. If he gets some rings he has chance to be considered in top 10. Even if he can't he is considered as best or at least top 3 player in the league. Iverson has never had such a chance.Only 34 years old Mutombo (he was still a good player but not as good as before)

Right now I would say Wade will have the better career and Iverson the better peak individual season.

Its close AI is easily the better scorer and Wade is the better defender there about the same as passers. I would rather have Wade cause he is easier to build around.

Wade improved on Iverson's imprint on the League. Wade is so much more unselfish then Iverson. But if there was no Iverson there will be no Wade.

Dwyane Wade and it is not even close. Unlike most people I don't think Iverson was a better scorer than Wade was. He scored 1.3 more ppg in his career than Wade did yet he shot 6%'s less. I'll take a guy that scores efficient over the guy that scores less efficient with just 1.3 more ppg. There is literally no area that Iverson was better than Wade in. Scoring is the only debate and I don't think Iverson was the better scorer.

Look what 30 year old Iverson was able to do after the rule changes and getting good offensive teammates. In 06 he put up 33 points 7 assists and 45% fg in 07 with Denver he put up 25 points 7 assists and 45% in 08 he put up 26 points 7 assists and 46%. His first full year with Denver in 08 he put 26.4 points on 19 shot attempts Wade this year put up 25.5 points on 18 shot attempts similar efficiency.

[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]Dwyane Wade and it is not even close. Unlike most people I don't think Iverson was a better scorer than Wade was. He scored 1.3 more ppg in his career than Wade did yet he shot 6%'s less. I'll take a guy that scores efficient over the guy that scores less efficient with just 1.3 more ppg. There is literally no area that Iverson was better than Wade in. Scoring is the only debate and I don't think Iverson was the better scorer.[/QUOTE]
If young Iverson played in the late 2000s he would put up 33-35 points with 46-48%

Is this a serious question?

One of the biggest chuckers of his day vs. one of the top all around players of his day

Tough call

[QUOTE=Ikill]If young Iverson played in the late 2000s he would put up 33-35 points with 46-48%[/QUOTE]
If Dwyane Wade played in the early 2000s he would put up 50-55 points with 55-57% shooting. Play all the hypotheticals you want.